Mavs agree to terms with JJ Barea - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

bobatundi · 07-01-2008, 10:37 PM

Or at least, that's what this ESPN.com article would imply, though no details are given.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...2008FreeAgents

alby · 07-01-2008, 10:41 PM

so as of now

Kidd/Terry/Howard/Dirk/Damp
Bass/Green/Foster/Stackhouse/Barea

(Looks like Wright isn't signed yet)

birdsanctuary · 07-01-2008, 10:42 PM

Why, he's never going to be more than the 3rd option at the 1 spot?

jacktruth · 07-01-2008, 10:43 PM

I think the agreement should look something like this. . .

We agree that you are too short to be an effective NBA player. Thank you for the 5 games that you contributed in last year. You look great in a suit.

Underdog · 07-01-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by birdsanctuary

Why, he's never going to be more than the 3rd option at the 1 spot?

We still need a 3rd option at the 1 spot on a 15-man roster...

alby · 07-01-2008, 10:46 PM

If he's okay with signing for around 800K, there's no reason not to keep him.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2008, 10:49 PM

I wonder why if this is all happening (Green and JJB) why DMN or FWST don't have any information on either situation.

wmbwinn · 07-01-2008, 10:50 PM

the kid can shoot and we seem to be very interested in shooters right now...

chumdawg · 07-01-2008, 10:52 PM

Barea is a guy that you keep at almost any (reasonable) cost. Guys like him come around only once in a long time...

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2008, 10:56 PM

I'm going to add Jones to alby's list. That makes it 11 players. You still have Wright, Reyshawn, and Seibutis as options.

Then Diop or a Center option. Looks like the spots are actually thinning out now.

Underdog · 07-01-2008, 11:02 PM

Kidd/Terry/JJB
Green/Foster/Jones
Josh/Stack/???
Dirk/Bass/???
Damp/???/???

alby · 07-01-2008, 11:07 PM

No way Green starts unless he has improved leaps and bounds since Minnesota's last game. Regardless, Terry is still a great asset to use to trade for a real two-guard.

AxdemxO · 07-01-2008, 11:19 PM

I am really hoping that we keep wright too.

I dont have a problem with JJ, but he wont do much for us. I would have rather offered Livingston a one year deal to see how his knee is and then go from there. The guy is very young and talented and teams are afraid to give him a shot.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2008, 11:21 PM

With taking on Green, I think we're done with project players unless one wows us in the SL.

the roster still has holes that need to be fixed!

bgarrett · 07-01-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

No way Green starts unless he has improved leaps and bounds since Minnesota's last game. Regardless, Terry is still a great asset to use to trade for a real two-guard.

If we don't get a "real two guard" wouldn't you still rather have JET off the bench? I'm starting Green if everything remains the same.

alby · 07-01-2008, 11:26 PM

Yeah, you're right--I'll start Green for the tip off then immediately proceed to call a time out to sub in JET.

chosen_one8976 · 07-01-2008, 11:26 PM

when green averaged 20 min. a game two years ago for boston, he averaged 10 pts and 3 boards a game...im guessin he could be a good 6th or 7th man comin off the bench. eventually he can start if he gets his act together...plus he can play the 2 or 3...this is actually a good time for him to come in, with jho workin hard and of course dirk an kidd's work ethic

jthig32 · 07-01-2008, 11:27 PM

You guys are getting way, way ahread of yourselves on Green. Look at the contract. It's a one year deal. If they thought he had ANY chance as a starter it would at least be a two year deal. With a one year deal, if he starts or is a member of the rotation and you want to resign him next season you have to use your MLE or LLE.

nikeball · 07-01-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chosen_one8976

when green averaged 20 min. a game two years ago for boston, he averaged 10 pts and 3 boards a game...im guessin he could be a good 6th or 7th man comin off the bench. eventually he can start if he gets his act together...plus he can play the 2 or 3...this is actually a good time for him to come in, with jho workin hard and of course dirk an kidd's work ethic

????

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

You guys are getting way, way ahread of yourselves on Green. Look at the contract. It's a one year deal. If they thought he had ANY chance as a starter it would at least be a two year deal. With a one year deal, if he starts or is a member of the rotation and you want to resign him next season you have to use your MLE or LLE.

We'll have to do that with Bass next summer with the MLE....

Underdog · 07-01-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

No way Green starts unless he has improved leaps and bounds since Minnesota's last game. Regardless, Terry is still a great asset to use to trade for a real two-guard.

Yeah, I don't care much for that line-up either - we still lack a legitimate two-guard...

I do like all the youth we've added though... Once we get a solid starting line-up, we can see which of these up-and-comers can fill out the 7-10 slots on the squad (like Bass did last season, but hopefully several of them...)

At least it's a refreshing change from those washed-up vets!

jthig32 · 07-01-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

We'll have to do that with Bass next summer with the MLE....

True, but they at least gave him a two year deal to give them two years and to give him early bird rights after that second season. The Early Bird figure is probably not going to be enough to resign Bass, but it stil makes more sense to go two years with someone you think might be part of the rotation.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

True, but they at least gave him a two year deal to give them two years and to give him early bird rights after that second season. The Early Bird figure is probably not going to be enough to resign Bass, but it stil makes more sense to go two years with someone you think might be part of the rotation.

Yup yup...but they will look silly if Green actually flips the switch and gets rolling. I don't think many of us are counting on that though.

Kidd Karma · 07-02-2008, 01:33 PM

The problem with Green starting is his D....not his individual one on one matchup, but the team defense, he did not work. You can tell when a player works by his defense and his effort level. For Doc Rivers to report that, should have been a wake up call for Green. Minny was a bad situation for him, with all the young bodies working their way not only for the Wolves but their NBA careers. Then again that should have rubbed off on him somehow, Brewer, McCants, Foye......we shall see.

sKen · 07-02-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

True, but they at least gave him a two year deal to give them two years and to give him early bird rights after that second season. The Early Bird figure is probably not going to be enough to resign Bass, but it stil makes more sense to go two years with someone you think might be part of the rotation.

The Early Bird figure and the MLE are exactly the same. That is why it makes sense to go a 2 year deal, so you can match an MLE offer to keep Bass and still be able to add FA's.

The other thing to remember is that nothing is on paper yet, and what we are hearing reported as a one year deal might actually be the same kind of deal that we offered Bass: 1 year guaranteed, on a two year contract.

horse900703 · 07-02-2008, 03:51 PM

he sucks!!!

Caseman · 07-02-2008, 04:00 PM

Great, we really need him sparing up the court. Look! Watch him drive the lane and get his shot blocked! Hey! Look at him taking an ill-advised jumper! Clank! Oh well... Wait! Look at him throwing a horrible pass.

I am not a fan of his...

jthig32 · 07-02-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sKen

The Early Bird figure and the MLE are exactly the same. That is why it makes sense to go a 2 year deal, so you can match an MLE offer to keep Bass and still be able to add FA's.

The other thing to remember is that nothing is on paper yet, and what we are hearing reported as a one year deal might actually be the same kind of deal that we offered Bass: 1 year guaranteed, on a two year contract.

You know, before I read this I had completely glossed over the "or average NBA salary, whichever is greater" for the Early Bird numbers.

So this means we won't have to dip into the MLE for Bass next season. That's good.

foglemann · 07-02-2008, 07:36 PM

Don't mind having JJB back next year, but isn't there tons of young promising PG's that are around that could have more promise than JJB. He's 5'6, really, will he ever be able to contribute minutes on a championship team, no.

Underdog · 07-02-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by foglemann

He's 5'6, really, will he ever be able to contribute minutes on a championship team, no.

Actually, he suffers from gigantism, but he comes from a pygmy background...

Robillion · 07-02-2008, 08:37 PM

I actually like JJB and think that he could be better developed under Carlisle and Kidd. We all know Avery didnt exactly have a knack for coaching point guards. He may be a munchkin, but I think he as the potential to be a damn good munchkin. .. good signing in my book if under 1mill