Ron Artest suspended one game - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Nowitzness81 · 05-05-2011, 03:11 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6487063

Lakers foward Ron Artest was suspended one game for his foul on Mavericks guard Jose Juan Barea in Game 2 of Los Angeles' Western Conference semifinals series against Dallas.

With 24.4 seconds left in the Mavericks' 93-81 win over the Lakers, Artest reached out with his right hand and grabbed Barea by the face and basically clotheslined him. Artest was immediately ejected after picking up his second technical foul.

The foul was classified as a Flagrant Foul 2. Artest will miss Friday's Game 3 in Dallas with the Mavericks leading the best-of-seven series 2-0.

Matt Barnes is likely to start in Artest's place, keeping L.A.'s rotation of big men intact with Lamar Odom coming off the bench.

Artest was out of position and had to run through Odom to get to Barea, who took a minute to recover before making two free throws to seal the Mavs' victory.

After the game, Lakers coach Phil Jackson said he expected Artest to be suspended by the NBA.

"It was uncalled for. There's a good chance he'll be suspended," Jackson said, adding, "I hope not."

Artest's elbow to Mavs center Tyson Chandler late in the second quarter earned him his first technical. Barea wouldn't comment on Artest's possible suspension after the game.

Underdog · 05-05-2011, 03:14 PM

Artest suspended and Barnes is starting?

Two birds, one stone...

Flacolaco · 05-05-2011, 03:20 PM

Good on the NBA. That's a no brainer, so naturally I was afraid they'd just fine him.

Mav Addict · 05-05-2011, 03:23 PM

I hate Barnes more than I hate Artest....both think they can punk the Mavs....but Artest is better defensively....the Lakers perimeter defense should suffer and Peja should get better looks

SMC0007 · 05-05-2011, 03:25 PM

Good.

Dirkadirkastan · 05-05-2011, 03:55 PM

Digging their own grave...

fluid.forty.one · 05-05-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Artest suspended and Barnes is starting?

Two birds, one stone...

But Barnes has the blueprint for beating the mavs!

LonghornDub · 05-05-2011, 04:07 PM

This is big, IMO. Odom may see a slight uptick in minutes, but Artest was playing 30 a game. Odom can't cover all of that. More time for the other guys is a good thing for us.

mavs777 · 05-05-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

This is big, IMO. Odom may see a slight uptick in minutes, but Artest was playing 30 a game. Odom can't cover all of that. More time for the other guys is a good thing for us.

yep we may see some Luke Walton and Joe Smith. Not to meantion the uptick in minutes for Barnes and Brown both of which have been bad

j0Shi · 05-05-2011, 04:43 PM

Expect a big game out of Peja. Artest blocked two 3pt-attempts yesterday and he really is a good Spot-Up defender, one of the best: opponents score 0.78 ppp on him and hit 28% of the thress. Barnes? 0.96 ppp and 38%.

Barnes is good at defending Isos and the P&R ... plays the Mavs don't run for their SFs. He's mediocre in defending Post-Ups and Spot-Ups ... plays the Mavs do run for their SFs.

Huge ...

Rick41 · 05-05-2011, 05:09 PM

I'd rather Artest be playing to be honest.

Dude has been chucking up shots and sucking all around the first two games.

Underdog · 05-05-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

I'd rather Artest be playing to be honest.

Dude has been chucking up shots and sucking all around the first two games.

Artest plays much better defense, not to mention Barnes is shooting only 2-8 for 4 points so far in the series...

No worries there.

Dirkadirkastan · 05-05-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

Expect a big game out of Peja. Artest blocked two 3pt-attempts yesterday and he really is a good Spot-Up defender, one of the best: opponents score 0.78 ppp on him and hit 28% of the thress. Barnes? 0.96 ppp and 38%.

Excellent point. I thought Ron took Peja completely out of the last game after blocking his first shot attempt. Three point snipers aren't used to getting their shots blocked, and it looked like Peja got a little rattled after that. He relied too much on the escape dribble when defenders were flying at him, and it looked like he could have gotten a few more spot up shots over them. He probably would have gotten into a better rhythm that way too.

Mavsfan4ever · 05-05-2011, 05:35 PM

I feel Peja will hit a few more three's without Artest guarding him.

WayOutWest · 05-05-2011, 06:30 PM

Mavs fans should be thanking the guy who grabbed Chandler as he was walking on to the court after the Artest foul. That would have been an automatic suspension I think.

xrobx · 05-05-2011, 08:15 PM

artest was due for a big game. now it's gonna take a 61 point kobe game to save this team

dude1394 · 05-05-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WayOutWest

Mavs fans should be thanking the guy who grabbed Chandler as he was walking on to the court after the Artest foul. That would have been an automatic suspension I think.

It looked like it was Brian...

Mavsfan4ever · 05-05-2011, 08:36 PM

I firmly believe without Artest guarding him Peja will get an extra 6-9 points.

SlimBig · 05-05-2011, 09:11 PM

This concerns me. Barnes is more than capable of filling in for Artest and Odom will get an increase in minutes.

Odom is one of the keys to the Lakers beating the Mavs and Artest's absence will FORCE Odom to pick up the slack. I hope this isn't the spark they needed. Damn, we have to be crazy focused.

jcm28 · 05-05-2011, 11:24 PM

Less players for them = more minutes for everyone.

Im cool with that. Beating those lakers again will feel HELLA fine.

41mvp · 05-05-2011, 11:55 PM

it's good for us his suspend give us more open looks
F Artest!!!

LonghornDub · 05-06-2011, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SlimBig

This concerns me. Barnes is more than capable of filling in for Artest and Odom will get an increase in minutes.

Odom is one of the keys to the Lakers beating the Mavs and Artest's absence will FORCE Odom to pick up the slack. I hope this isn't the spark they needed. Damn, we have to be crazy focused.

Uh, Barnes is nowhere near capable of filling in for Artest. They have two completely different skillsets, and in terms of overall ability, Artest is at least twice the player Barnes is.

People are so damn antsy around here. Jeez. Maybe the Mavs lose tomorrow night, but to be uneasy about the Lakers being down a 30mpg starter is just ridiculous.

mavs777 · 05-06-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Uh, Barnes is nowhere near capable of filling in for Artest. They have two completely different skillsets, and in terms of overall ability, Artest is at least twice the player Barnes is.

People are so damn antsy around here. Jeez. Maybe the Mavs lose tomorrow night, but to be uneasy about the Lakers being down a 30mpg starter is just ridiculous.

also Artest has shot the ball bad this series but look at what he can do not just what he has. The chances of Barnes playing well are much lower than Artest playing well.

Artest played very well in the NO series (shot 50% from floor, 39 % from 3, scored 12 points a game) not to meantion his defense

OneLove22 · 05-06-2011, 12:46 AM

Ya Artest may have been shooting bad and all that.... but I am much more worried about him than Barnes. Artest was one of teh 4 Lakers to score double digits last game.

We know what he is capable of and when he's locked in defensively he is a beast. It's a good thing for the Mavs he's suspended. To make it a great thing we have to execute and make the Lakers suffer from not having him on the floor.

Also, our depth is taking a toll on them... and that is one less player to spread minutes.

mavsfan1000 · 05-06-2011, 01:44 AM

Artest kills the Lakers rhythm. I think the Lakers are deep at SF and can actually play better without him.

mavs777 · 05-06-2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Artest kills the Lakers rhythm. I think the Lakers are deep at SF and can actually play better without him.

luke walton makes a team deep??? lol

mavsfan1000 · 05-06-2011, 02:02 AM

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luke walton makes a team deep??? lol

Odom can play SF, Barnes at SF, and Brown at SF. lol I wasn't even thinking about Luke Walton.

mavs777 · 05-06-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Odom can play SF, Barnes at SF, and Brown at SF. lol I wasn't even thinking about Luke Walton.

Brown and Barnes suck

Based on what can Odom play the 3?

OneLove22 · 05-06-2011, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Brown and Barnes suck

Based on what can Odom play the 3?

Ya if anything we'll see more Kobe at 3. Then we can have Marion on him.

No complaints there.

Five-ofan · 05-06-2011, 03:42 AM

Assuming the game doesn't go into OT, the Lakers will have to get 240 minutes total. Even if they up their top 4 to 38 mpg that still leaves 96 minutes that have to go to Fisher, Brown, Barnes, Blake and or Walton. Thats the equivalent of 2 positions at all times being filled by flat out terrible basketball players. If you dont think thats a net positive for the mavs, you are out of your mind. Yes Artest has struggled shooting in this series but he was 4/10 in game 2 which while not great isnt exactly awful.

The above scenario was actually being incredibly generous. Kobe and Gasol are leading the Lakers are 35 mpg. Bynum is avg 32 and Odom 28. I don't think this effects bynum or Gasol much and it probably bumps Odom 3-5 minutes that he gets at the 3 in addition to the 28 he gets backing up the bigs. I honestly don't think Kobe can play much more. If he could, theyd already be playing him more. If Im right about those minutes, that gives you 105 minutes of the aforementioned scrubs and it also puts the lakers in a position that Mavs fans should be familiar with, playing 3 on 5 on offense consistently.

The other thing is that this probably means more of Kobe at the 3 with Brown at the 2. The more that Kobe plays 3, the more Shawn Marion can guard him without creating a mismatch somewhere else. As well as Kidd has done, Marion is still by far our best Kobe defender.

Mavsfan4ever · 05-06-2011, 04:01 AM

After watching a replay of the Artest foul I think Bynum is right this team has trust issue. It sure looks as if Artest has trust issues with Odoms testicles. Okay bad humor aside as I looked that incident over again it almost seems as if Artest purposely brought his knee up into Odoms crotch.

JHT · 05-06-2011, 04:28 AM

These idiots should be fired:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6484866

They don't think Artest should have been suspended because:
1. He was trying to take an intentional foul? (WTF the game was over, everyone had quit playing, and if there was an intentional foul to be taken Odom was RIGHT NEXT to Barea and could have taken it)
2. Barea is short and I guess being short means you deserve to be hit in the face
3. Artest stayed close to Barea to make sure he didn't fall over from being punched in the face.

ESPN, please fire Skip Bayless.

Mavsfan4ever · 05-06-2011, 04:35 AM

Another point Odom had done committed the foul at this point. I don't buy this BS of he was just trying to foul JJB that SOB was angry that JJB had took advantage of the Lakers defense in the fourth so he took a cheap shot.

OneLove22 · 05-06-2011, 05:51 AM

dude looked like he was trying to leave his feet and lay him the fuck out.... I don't understand how throwing your entire upper body at someone is suppose to be an intentional foul?

Oh BSPN.... they will ride the Lakers & Celtics till they die.

beatLA · 05-06-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

But Barnes has the blueprint for beating the mavs!

he was a role player

beatLA · 05-06-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SlimBig

This concerns me. Barnes is more than capable of filling in for Artest and Odom will get an increase in minutes.

Odom is one of the keys to the Lakers beating the Mavs and Artest's absence will FORCE Odom to pick up the slack. I hope this isn't the spark they needed. Damn, we have to be crazy focused.

Odom is not used to play many minutes and he'll be distracted.

Dtownsfinest · 05-06-2011, 08:16 AM

I was hoping to see Artest chunk up some more bad shots for game 3. Guess I can rule that out.

Kirobaito · 05-06-2011, 09:19 AM

http://twitter.com/#!/KevinDing/stat...34850172837888

"Without Artest, Lakers are (for now, at least) listing Shannon Brown as starting SG and Kobe as SF for Friday night."

Huzzah!

Mav Addict · 05-06-2011, 09:29 AM

F' Shannon Brown

joemoeschmoe · 05-06-2011, 09:54 AM

The more I think about this, the more I like it. Even if Artest was bad offensively (he was mediocre really), this is still great.

Marion gets to guard Kobe most of the game without creating mismatches elsewhere! Also huge is the fact that the Lakers bench will have to play more minutes.

I'll be watching for a Brown explosion though. The dude can get hot. He can also be retarded.