Mein Drumpf

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@arlenparsa: Look how Trump’s face changes when he realizes an entire stadium is booing him https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/statu...26autosize%3D1

I don’t hear the boos, and his reaction is barely there. Maybe you had to be in the stadium?

[Jack.Kerr]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

I don’t hear the boos, and his reaction is barely there. Maybe you had to be in the stadium?

Fox reportedly edited the booing.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Fox reportedly edited the booing.

Lol. Not surprising.

[sefant77]

https://youtu.be/OsBOWSjOLsE

[sefant77]

Opening Statement of Mitch McConnell regarding the impeachment process against Trump...ähm...Clinton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjXKP6XHFk4

[mac222b]

Witness tampering/intimidation in real time today by the wannabe mobster clown. Just wow. Every day brings a new low from the walking human excrement in chief. There is no punishment sufficient, ok maybe Saddams or Gadhafi’s would suffice.

[sefant77]

"But its a witch hunt and a circus and there is nothing to see here....oh lets deny the access to simple phone records for the most important witness"

US Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland turned the State Department’s argument that the impeachment hearings process has been unfair back at them, suggesting they have made the process less fair and transparent by not allowing him to access his department phone records, emails and other documents.


“I also must acknowledge that this process has been challenging and, in many respects, less than fair,” Sondland testified in his opening statement. “Having access to the State Department materials would have been very helpful to me in trying to reconstruct with whom I spoke and met, when, and what was said.”
He continued: “My lawyers and I have made multiple requests to the State Department and the White House for these materials. Yet, these materials were not provided to me. They have also refused to share these materials with this Committee. These documents are not classified and, in fairness, should have been made available. In the absence of these materials, my memory has not been perfect,” Sondland said. “And I have no doubt that a more fair, open, and orderly process of allowing me to read the State Department records would have made this process more transparent.”

[Murphy3]

This is a colossal waste of money..

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

This is a colossal waste of money..

Like the Mueller investigation?

[EricaLubarsky]

We just started a war with Iran

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We just started a war with Iran

"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Iran."

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We just started a war with Iran

Announced via a twitter jpeg. Welcome to 2020

[FreshJive]

whoops wrong thread

[Underdog]

[sefant77]

Its even better with video...

https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status...41912132476929

[FreshJive]

Dems are about to fuck this thing up again. The whole machine is out to slam Sanders. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. They want Trump to win, right?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Dems are about to fuck this thing up again. The whole machine is out to slam Sanders. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. They want Trump to win, right?

It's because he wants to make real, effective changes that will affect the pockets of the corporate Dems.

I have no clue why they are so afraid of him otherwise. Sanders actually gives a shit about people in a way most politicians don't.

[tap2390]

Sanders is the only Dem I can see taking Trump out.

[FreshJive]

I'm willing to give the moderator the benefit of the doubt that she was just reading the next question on her list, when she said, "when Sanders said these awful things to you, how did it make you feel" after he had just said that he didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious that Warren had already been fed the question beforehand by the rehearsed answer she gave.

It seems like the Dems just wanted to burn both of them right there for Biden's benefit.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

I'm willing to give the moderator the benefit of the doubt that she was just reading the next question on her list, when she said, "when Sanders said these awful things to you, how did it make you feel" after he had just said that he didn't say it, but it's pretty obvious that Warren had already been fed the question beforehand by the rehearsed answer she gave.

It seems like the Dems just wanted to burn both of them right there for Biden's benefit.

There is nothing that Warren offers that Bernie doesn't already. He has just been doing it genuinely a lot longer.

If the Dems don't want a Biden nominee, then she needs to drop out. She trails in basically every poll to Bernie and is taking his votes since they are similar on most issues.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

There is nothing that Warren offers that Bernie doesn't already. He has just been doing it genuinely a lot longer.

If the Dems don't want a Biden nominee, then she needs to drop out. She trails in basically every poll to Bernie and is taking his votes since they are similar on most issues.

It appears they want Biden. It also appears they would like to make sure Warren voters won’t want to vote for Bernie, and vice versa.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

It appears they want Biden. It also appears they would like to make sure Warren voters won’t want to vote for Bernie, and vice versa.

I've yet to meet anyone under 60 who wants Biden. I have a hard time believing Biden has as much support as they say.

[FreshJive]

If this ends up Bloomberg vs Trump, can we just dispense with the illusion of choice? How does one even muster the will to give a shit?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

If this ends up Bloomberg vs Trump, can we just dispense with the illusion of choice? How does one even muster the will to give a shit?

Yep which is why you shouldn't be allowed to buy elections. Buying an election is really no different than getting a foreign country to help rig one the way Trump did.

I'm still open to voting for Kloubacher or Pete if they win, but Bernie is really the only guy that is actually going to change things in a significant way.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Yep which is why you shouldn't be allowed to buy elections. Buying an election is really no different than getting a foreign country to help rig one the way Trump did.

I'm still open to voting for Kloubacher or Pete if they win, but Bernie is really the only guy that is actually going to change things in a significant way.

It makes the Russian thing look silly. They spent a few dollars on FB adds, ran some Twitter troll accounts, and possibly facilitated the release of actual Dem emails.

The Dems are now hoping a Republican can buy the election from Trump and "save" the democracy.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

It makes the Russian thing look silly. They spent a few dollars on FB adds, ran some Twitter troll accounts, and possibly facilitated the release of actual Dem emails.

The Dems are now hoping a Republican can buy the election from Trump and "save" the democracy.

I mean, I checked three polls yesterday that all had Sanders in double digit leads nationally.

Bloomberg is currently just taking away centrist votes from Biden, Pete and Amy which in many ways helps Bernie.

The bigger issue is whether Bloomberg runs as an independent in the generally election. That would all but seal the deal for Trump.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I mean, I checked three polls yesterday that all had Sanders in double digit leads nationally.

Bloomberg is currently just taking away centrist votes from Biden, Pete and Amy which in many ways helps Bernie.

The centrist vote could eventually coalesce into the one centrist candidate, and he only needs to keep Bernie from winning an outright majority where the super delegates get to pick the winner. Note how every candidate besides Bernie in the debate said that the person who wins the most delegates should not necessarily be the winner.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I also listened to a pretty interesting podcast that showed that Dems trying to be centrist or more "Republican" friendly doesn't work. Their point was that you rarely to never see Republicans trying to be more liberal in this day and age, and the polling and exit polling backed this up.

In 2018, when the Dems did well, 83% of Republican registered voters voted. That is staggering and shows the real down to earth issue IMO. If the Dems want to win, then they have to turn out to vote. None of the centrists are going to inspire such turnout.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

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[DevinHarriswillstart]

Looks like the DNC really wants Trump to be president again because of their foaming hatred of Bernie...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/u...delegates.html

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Looks like the DNC really wants Trump to be president again because of their foaming hatred of Bernie...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/u...delegates.html

"of the people, by the people, for the people" my ass

[FreshJive]

I find these typed of things hilarious, but holy crap I understand why people get angry. I had the first thought as Matt when I saw it but apparently it's real?

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1233769339519688705

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

I find these typed of things hilarious, but holy crap I understand why people get angry. I had the first thought as Matt when I saw it but apparently it's real?

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1233769339519688705

All it does is fuel Bernie's support, so let them have at it.

Fake news indeed.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Warren is basically gift wrapping the election to Tump by staying in the race at this point with Klobacher and Pete out.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Warren is basically gift wrapping the election to Tump by staying in the race at this point with Klobacher and Pete out.

How? It’s the primary, she won’t be on the general ticket. She’s gunning for a VP slot behind whoever wins.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

How? It’s the primary, she won’t be on the general ticket. She’s gunning for a VP slot behind whoever wins.

You do realize that basically entire DNC is trying to stop Bernie right? So you're telling me Pete and Amy couldn't stay in for that very same reason? Nope, because they will do anything to stop him.

She is needlessly splitting the progressive vote when she has no shot at the nomination. She is one of the few politically powerful people that can help by dropping out and endorsing him.

I guess she'd rather have Biden win and be VP to him?

I guess we'll see if she stays in after tomorrow though.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

You do realize that basically entire DNC is trying to stop Bernie right?

And failing... All they're doing is proving why the Democratic Party needs someone like Bernie right now. The more they push, the more his supporters push back at those corrupt, corporate dick-sucking gollems -- those are exactly the types of Democrats that convinced Trump's supporters to "drain the swamp" (not that the GOP are any better, but the DNC are bad enough to make a convincing argument).

And obviously Liz is gunning for a Biden victory after attacking Bernie to create some semblance of separation between the two of them... And it's backfired horribly. Her political career is about to be over -- the voters of MA are even looking to replace her as senator.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

And failing... All they're doing is proving why the Democratic Party needs someone like Bernie right now. The more they push, the more his supporters push back at those corrupt, corporate dick-sucking gollems -- those are exactly the types of Democrats that convinced Trump's supporters to "drain the swamp" (not that the GOP are any better, but the DNC are bad enough to make a convincing argument).

And obviously Liz is gunning for a Biden victory after attacking Bernie to create some semblance of separation between the two of them... And it's backfired horribly. Her political career is about to be over -- the voters of MA are even looking to replace her as senator.

But see, I think she can at least partially save herself if she dropped out and endorsed Bernie. Be a shame to see her collapse as a phony while needlessly taking primary votes away from him. People have short memories, and she could easily get back to why she became popular to begin with.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Warren is basically gift wrapping the election to Tump by staying in the race at this point with Klobacher and Pete out.

Indirectly. She's holding Bernie back so he only gets a plurality instead of a majority. Then the DNC can torpedo Bernie at the convention.

Then enough people are pissed at the dems that I could see Trump pulling a win.

So yeah

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Indirectly. She's holding Bernie back so he only gets a plurality instead of a majority. Then the DNC can torpedo Bernie at the convention.

Then enough people are pissed at the dems that I could see Trump pulling a win.

So yeah

Yep. But if the Dems want to really screw Bernie at the convention, then it's a loss no matter who the nominee is at that point.

Dems have cried foul for four years that Trump won but lost by 3 million votes. If more people vote for Bernie and he isn't the nominee, then they are all the worst kind of hypocrites.

Real question is why would Warren do that unless she was promised the VP spot by Biden. I'm still not at all getting why she is trying to hurt Bernie otherwise...