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DGM · 07-11-2015, 03:18 PM

Should Mavs consider him as a backup center?

Melonhead · 07-11-2015, 03:44 PM

Depending on price, hell yes.

edit: he made 12m last season. If Mavs can get him for 7ish, I think hed be a good get. All the other important positions are locked up for the most part.

Williams/Barea
Matthews/Harris/Anderson
Parsons/RJ
Dirk/CV/Evans/Powell
Zaza/Mcgee

Take them on a team bonding trip. Maybe to Cuban's house, lock everyone in and play FKN VIDEO GAMES...im still mad.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 03:47 PM

no

Kante · 07-11-2015, 03:50 PM

yes

bunkmoreland · 07-11-2015, 03:56 PM

maybe

rimrocker · 07-11-2015, 04:14 PM

I'd say yes (depending on price) with Zaza as our starter.

He's a different type of player and we could use more athleticism on this team...especially in our frontcourt.

DGM · 07-11-2015, 04:49 PM

did he get bought out by philly last year?

spreedom · 07-11-2015, 04:56 PM

Sweet Jesus... $7M for McGee? No thanks. If he'll play for the minimum, sure, but he isn't worth more than that until he proves himself.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-11-2015, 04:59 PM

The only good thing about McGee is that he would the a good change of pace center backing up Pachulia.

mxr2000 · 07-11-2015, 06:01 PM

Still want Tristan Thompson on our team, isn't Javale some kind of Goof that wont take the game seriously and do strange things on games?

Underdog · 07-11-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mxr2000

Still want Tristan Thompson on our team, isn't Javale some kind of Goof that wont take the game seriously and do strange things on games?

We can't afford Thompson -- he's a restricted free agent and we only have $5-6m left in cap space.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 06:04 PM

Javale has consistently had a big negative on/off effect on his teams play even while putting up decentish box score stats. He just doesn't help his team while on the floor.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We can't afford Thompson -- he's a restricted free agent and we only have $5-6m left in cap space.

and the cavs are matching every offer anyways

DGM · 07-11-2015, 06:07 PM

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and the cavs are matching every offer anyways

Tristan is lebron's guy and they have the same agent.

Dtownsfinest · 07-11-2015, 06:37 PM

Mavs are in no position to to decline a talent like McGee. He's a bit immature but on a team with a solid core of veteran leadership? I'd take him. Why did he not catch on with a team when he got bought out last season I wonder.

Vinsanity · 07-11-2015, 06:41 PM

Yes. Athletic guy who can play above the rim and block some shots. At the very least we'll get some good laughs out of his shaqtin a fool moments.

Melonhead · 07-11-2015, 06:45 PM

Who are we to turn down an okay center? Is there anyone else out there that could give you a solid 20 minutes for 5-7million? My only question is his defense. Havent watched him enough

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Mavs are in no position to to decline a talent like McGee. .

We've past the point of calling him a "talent" or selling him with "potential" he is who he is at this point. A negative impact player.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Who are we to turn down an okay center? Is there anyone else out there that could give you a solid 20 minutes for 5-7million? My only question is his defense. Havent watched him enough

We aren't, but guess what? He's not giving you 20 solid minutes, he's going to give you 20 minutes where you are outscored on the floor and the team is in a worse position to win than before he was brought on to the floor.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 07:14 PM

Teams points per 100 possessions +/- with javale on/off court
08-09 WSH: 5.2 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
09-10 WSH: 3.7 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
10-11 WSH: 7.1 points per 100 possessions better with javale on floor
11-12 WSH: 8.6 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
11-12 Den: 6.3 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
12-13 Den: 3.3 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor

Get the trend?

DirkFTW · 07-11-2015, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Teams points per 100 possessions +/- with javale on/off court
08-09 WSH: 5.2 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
09-10 WSH: 3.7 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
10-11 WSH: 7.1 points per 100 possessions better with javale on floor
11-12 WSH: 8.6 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
11-12 Den: 6.3 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
12-13 Den: 3.3 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor

Get the trend?

So as a backup... he's going to improve our starting lineup?

Dtownsfinest · 07-11-2015, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Teams points per 100 possessions +/- with javale on/off court
08-09 WSH: 5.2 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
09-10 WSH: 3.7 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
10-11 WSH: 7.1 points per 100 possessions better with javale on floor
11-12 WSH: 8.6 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor
11-12 Den: 6.3 points per 100 possessions better with javale off floor
12-13 Den: 3.3 points per 100 possessions better with Javale off floor

Get the trend?

I mean I see that trend but another trend is that those teams aren't very good.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I mean I see that trend but another trend is that those teams aren't very good.

You do realize that this actually makes Javale look even worse right? These teams are doing much better with him on the bench even with bad players on floor instead of him.

mavs777 · 07-11-2015, 11:12 PM

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So as a backup... he's going to improve our starting lineup?

He's going to hurt the bench.

MavzMan · 07-12-2015, 01:14 AM

I believe I saw that Donnie gave a quick "no" in response to JaValle. I'm guessing he's too much of a headcase and too low BBIQ for what the Mavs are willing to gamble on.

jay3189 · 07-12-2015, 01:17 AM

Javalle Mcgee is super big, athletic, and a good defender. His I.Q is so damn low it's a shame. If he can get his shit together, he will be great for a team.

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 03:15 PM

What is the word on Aldrich?
We should sign him and call it an off season.

DWill/Barea/Felton
Matthews/Harris
Parsons/Anderson/RJ
Dirk/Powell/CV/Evans
Zaza/Aldrich/Sarge

spreedom · 07-12-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

What is the word on Aldrich?
We should sign him and call it an off season.

DWill/Barea/Felton
Matthews/Harris
Parsons/Anderson/RJ
Dirk/Powell/CV/Evans
Zaza/Aldrich/Sarge

Aldrich (also) signed with the Clippers.

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 03:35 PM

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Aldrich (also) signed with the Clippers.

So we're down to McGee, Dalembert, Okafor, Sanders, Hollins and who????

What about Hibbert....any chance we can trade for him or do we not have enough space/assets?
Not a big fan but at least nobody would push him around.

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 03:39 PM

What about Birdman....does he have anything left?
Felton for him would work...maybe we get a 2nd rounder in process.

Thebo · 07-12-2015, 03:46 PM

Hibbert is long gone. I haven't heard about Oden during free agency but before playoffs were over he supposedly looked as great as ever. Perhaps veteran experience from Mavs would help him stop abusing booze and enjoy the game a little.

I'm not sure why Heat would do Felton for Birdman. Their PG backup is Chalmers. There's no need and Felton/Birdman are both expiring.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-12-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

What about Birdman....does he have anything left?
Felton for him would work...maybe we get a 2nd rounder in process.

I think they are wanting to dump his and chalmers salary for tax purposes, so it would have to be birdman and chalmers for felton or maybe just birdman for some type of trade filler like zaza was. It may shock people with him being 37 that he actually still plays above the rim but he still does lol. It's just he can only play at most 15-18min i would think and his lateral movement is probably terrible. It's slim pickings so I wouldn't hate it, he's an expiring contract so no future problems.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-12-2015, 05:03 PM

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So we're down to McGee, Dalembert, Okafor, Sanders, Hollins and who????

Unless I missed them I think you can add Seraphin, Justin Hamilton, Withey, and Stiemsma to that list. My soul hurts looking at that list.

IMO Okafor and Sanders can be taken entirely off. Okafor isn't coming back until I see it happen. Sanders is basically Ricky Williams and is off looking for some type of personal peace or whatever.

Oh hey guys Greg Smith is still available. He was so coveted by RC he was benched in favor of Aminu... at the 5... vs Deandre Jordan in the Clippers game last year.

--Edit--
I guess you could also throw Josh Smith on that pile of crap called what's left as a small ball Center. You could probably take Hickson off the Nuggets for almost nothing but that's also where his defense is at, nothing. He puts up some serious empty stats. Orlando has Dedmon and his contract is not guaranteed so we can gather in a circle, hold hands, and hope Skiles loses his brain and cuts him in favor of some summer league guy.

mavs777 · 07-12-2015, 06:07 PM

I'd be happy with withey

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Unless I missed them I think you can add Seraphin, Justin Hamilton, Withey, and Stiemsma to that list. My soul hurts looking at that list.

Withey would be nice for a project but don't see him doing much for us this season. Dalembert would be nice with the right attitude. And Hollins is a good change of pace with Zaza but I thought he left on bad terms.

Something tells me Blair will be on our roster at some point this season addressing that problem though.

rimrocker · 07-12-2015, 06:19 PM

Does Nene have anything left?
Noticed he is only 32 and the Wiz are trying to dump him.

Harris/Felton/Trade Exception for Nene should work.

Then bring up Pangos as our 3rd string PG. Didn't know he is supposedly a great defender.

purplefrog · 07-12-2015, 06:32 PM

I wouldn't at be surprised if Minnesota would will be willing to dump Pekovic. He has, I think, 3 or 4 years left on a contract worth about $12M per year. But the guy is chronically injured. Achilles last year, knee problems, and I don't know what else. He certainly isn't a rim protector, but he is strong as a bull. Way too risky, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone took a chance.

Vinsanity · 07-12-2015, 06:40 PM

I would stay away from Nene and Pek. First of all they both have big salaries... and Nene looks about done. He looked pitiful in the playoffs this year and is a poor rebounder. Pekovic would be a bad fit next to Dirk and he's constantly injured.

Jack.Kerr · 07-12-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DGM

Should Mavs consider him as a backup center?

Mavs just acquired a backup center in Pachulia. What they need is a STARTING center.

DGM · 07-12-2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Withey would be nice for a project but don't see him doing much for us this season. Dalembert would be nice with the right attitude. And Hollins is a good change of pace with Zaza but I thought he left on bad terms.

Something tells me Blair will be on our roster at some point this season addressing that problem though.

Blair is just too short.