01-18-2024, 06:34 PM
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Ugh why Jerami Grant? Another player that can't rebound. Just what we need.
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Yeah just doesn?t fit the offense at all imo. If we didn?t have Kyrie then sure.
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01-18-2024, 01:52 PM
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01-18-2024, 05:08 PM
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I'd trade Lively in a second....
For Jokic
or Lopez/Giannis
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01-18-2024, 10:48 PM
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I'd trade Lively in a second....
For Jokic
or Lopez/Giannis
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lol. Yeah, unless it?s a bonafide star Lively isn?t available.
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01-18-2024, 06:46 PM
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Lots of smoke with PJ Washington. He is at least a decent rebounder but he can't shoot for shit.
Still, his contract is cap friendly and it's a lower risk, high reward type of move. And it might not cost much.
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01-18-2024, 07:52 PM
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Roll him out there at center lol you know Kidd will
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01-18-2024, 09:35 PM
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PJ Washington would be filthy here. We have plenty of shooting, I think.
What would a trade package from Mavs look like?
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01-19-2024, 02:08 AM
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PJ Washington would be filthy here. We have plenty of shooting, I think.
What would a trade package from Mavs look like?
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Hardy/Williams for Washington/Richards?
Or
Hardy/Green/Holmes for Washington/Richards
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01-19-2024, 11:58 AM
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Pacers are starting to look really good and have a lot of depth at PF now. I doubt they challenge Celts or Bucks but have a such good young core with Mathurin and Walker. Jarace Walker is now hitting the rotation and Haliburton is amazing. They lost Bruce Brown so maybe Josh Green would have some appeal. Jalen smith is a big help for size at the PF position and the Mavs are top heavy with wings. Smith is only 8 months older than Green. If Green grew to 6'9", he might be Jalen smith.
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01-19-2024, 12:32 PM
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Pacers are starting to look really good and have a lot of depth at PF now. I doubt they challenge Celts or Bucks but have a such good young core with Mathurin and Walker. Jarace Walker is now hitting the rotation and Haliburton is amazing. They lost Bruce Brown so maybe Josh Green would have some appeal. Jalen smith is a big help for size at the PF position and the Mavs are top heavy with wings. Smith is only 8 months older than Green. If Green grew to 6'9", he might be Jalen smith.
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I may make Indy my second team. I was cheering for Sac last year, but they've peaked with their current roster.
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01-19-2024, 01:28 PM
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I may make Indy my second team. I was cheering for Sac last year, but they've peaked with their current roster.
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I grew up in Indiana (not in Indy) during their ABA days rooting for them. Lots of games on the radio. Every now and then a TV game. They will always be my 2nd team. The Reggie teams in the 90's really filled the void from those Mav teams from that decade. McGinnis is one of my all time favorite players. Watched some of his HS games on TV then he played for IU then Pacers.
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01-20-2024, 04:11 AM
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Pacers are starting to look really good and have a lot of depth at PF now. I doubt they challenge Celts or Bucks but have a such good young core with Mathurin and Walker. Jarace Walker is now hitting the rotation and Haliburton is amazing. They lost Bruce Brown so maybe Josh Green would have some appeal. Jalen smith is a big help for size at the PF position and the Mavs are top heavy with wings. Smith is only 8 months older than Green. If Green grew to 6'9", he might be Jalen smith.
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If I'm not mistaken, Rick was against selecting Green in the draft and that was one of the r
easons he left.
Things may have changed since then, but as I recollect Rick wasn't happy that his input was completely ignored.
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01-19-2024, 10:13 PM
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Fisher saying it all
Mavs want talent and offering THJ
No one wants THJ
Might be a no-move TDL
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01-19-2024, 10:20 PM
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Man, Fisher really doing some hardcore journalism there. I forgot he still existed.
Him saying nobody wants THJ is something we've all known for years now. That, of course, changes with adding Hardy, Green, Omax or picks.
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01-20-2024, 08:55 AM
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I know it means nothing but I found it funny that Tyrese first game back and Siakam first game with the pacers and they lose to the blazers.
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01-20-2024, 10:24 AM
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I know it means nothing but I found it funny that Tyrese first game back and Siakam first game with the pacers and they lose to the blazers.
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I find it odd that Indiana was hell bent on keeping Jarace Walker and Obi Toppin when they play the same position as Siakam. I suppose they can use those assets for a later trade, but we know how Rick is with rookies...
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01-20-2024, 02:13 PM
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You could talk me into PJ Washington. Crappy ass team and unmotivated.
If GS doesn't want Wiggins, then it's a huge reg flag. There is no reason for him not to play well for that franchise with that coach.
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01-20-2024, 06:09 PM
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You could talk me into PJ Washington. Crappy ass team and unmotivated.
If GS doesn't want Wiggins, then it's a huge reg flag. There is no reason for him not to play well for that franchise with that coach.
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The dude only I'd want is Miles Bridges off that team
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01-20-2024, 08:07 PM
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The dude only I'd want is Miles Bridges off that team
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He and Kidd would have things to bond over
He?d help us? except games in Canada
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01-20-2024, 11:52 PM
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He and Kidd would have things to bond over
He?d help us? except games in Canada
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If he plays well I think mavs fans in general would accept him.
But he can definitely help this team on both ends of the floor.
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01-20-2024, 08:06 PM
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You could talk me into PJ Washington. Crappy ass team and unmotivated.
If GS doesn't want Wiggins, then it's a huge reg flag. There is no reason for him not to play well for that franchise with that coach.
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We?re on the same page. If he can?t get it together for that franchise, I don?t have any hope he would magically get it together for Dallas.
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01-20-2024, 08:11 PM
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Almost gives me Lamar Odom vibes with Wiggins.
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01-20-2024, 08:45 PM
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Almost gives me Lamar Odom vibes with Wiggins.
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I was going to say the same thing.
And Miles Bridges would be a Jerry Jones move. I mean, it's hard to be the morality police with Cuban and Kidd around. Still think Washington makes about as much sense without the baggage.
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01-21-2024, 12:53 PM
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18 days
Herb Jones being shopped. Kid is a perfect fit here.
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01-21-2024, 02:11 PM
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Jones doesn't fix our rebounding, but we could always use the defense.
Exum upgraded to doubtful.
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01-21-2024, 06:23 PM
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I hope they aren?t trying to get DFS back. He?s avg 3 points his last 5 games, 5 points over his last 10 games.
He?s the same he?s always been when we were looking to trade him. Only so many wide open 3s assisted by Luka I can watch brick
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01-21-2024, 07:23 PM
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I hope they aren?t trying to get DFS back. He?s avg 3 points his last 5 games, 5 points over his last 10 games.
He?s the same he?s always been when we were looking to trade him. Only so many wide open 3s assisted by Luka I can watch brick
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It makes little sense with DJJ. He is a discount version of Dodo with only 1 rebound less per game but a much better FG%.
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01-21-2024, 08:35 PM
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DFS is such a waste of time. Sentimental twitter fans and click bait merchants. If they want to take G Will or some rando, then so be it but we have needs that supercede pointless reunions .
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01-21-2024, 10:12 PM
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DFS is such a waste of time. Sentimental twitter fans and click bait merchants. If they want to take G Will or some rando, then so be it but we have needs that supercede pointless reunions .
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And look at Dinwiddie calling off a cliff. Players are usually traded for a reason.
Mavs need to break this habit of considering nice guys. Dodo is a nice guy and everyone liked him. He is also a dime a dozen talent-wise.
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01-22-2024, 09:13 AM
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And look at Dinwiddie calling off a cliff. Players are usually traded for a reason.
Mavs need to break this habit of considering nice guys. Dodo is a nice guy and everyone liked him. He is also a dime a dozen talent-wise.
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What? Dime a dozen talent-wise?
He's a 3/D guy who is shooting 41% from three, providing solid D, and pulling down more rebounds than everyone on our squad not named Lively/Luka
Also nice guy? Other than the fact that he was a huge chemistry guy, what makes you think he was just a nice guy? Guy played hard AF every night.
Mavs fans love to trash our own and some are fitting, but Dodo was legit one of the better stories and legit one of the best chemistry guys we've ever had.
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01-22-2024, 11:58 AM
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What? Dime a dozen talent-wise?
He's a 3/D guy who is shooting 41% from three, providing solid D, and pulling down more rebounds than everyone on our squad not named Lively/Luka
Also nice guy? Other than the fact that he was a huge chemistry guy, what makes you think he was just a nice guy? Guy played hard AF every night.
Mavs fans love to trash our own and some are fitting, but Dodo was legit one of the better stories and legit one of the best chemistry guys we've ever had.
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41% 3pt%? Where are you seeing this? I'm seeing 38% from "sources".
A dime a dozen talent-wise is not a stretch imo. DFS didnt play any harder than DP every night and while he is definitely more valuable, it didnt amount to very much in the big picture. I think we all like him but the idea that we need him is odd to me. He is a luxury add-on to a team that just needs one more solid semi-reliable rotation player and we are a cpl of bigger pieces away from being in that position.
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41% 3pt%? Where are you seeing this? I'm seeing 38% from "sources".
A dime a dozen talent-wise is not a stretch imo. DFS didnt play any harder than DP every night and while he is definitely more valuable, it didnt amount to very much in the big picture. I think we all like him but the idea that we need him is odd to me. He is a luxury add-on to a team that just needs one more solid semi-reliable rotation player and we are a cpl of bigger pieces away from being in that position.
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He had a couple of bad games (0-3 then 0-5) so the stat was a little old. I still think he's near 40% and a lot of the crap is because the entire Nets team is cancer and needs to be traded away for a new start.
Now would I take Dinwiddie? No.
But DFS/DSJ for cheap? I'd do it. Maybe Claxton for a bit more.
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01-22-2024, 10:24 AM
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His D was horrible last season. We?re just going off of his past reputation when in reality he was getting blown by on drives. He peaked the prior season defensively.
Just as an example, PJ Washington avgs the same amount of rebounds and more points. We don?t need more 3 point shooters anyway. Length and rebounds should be the #1 priority. And he?s only 25 and might cost less.
Like sure I wouldn?t mind DFS back because of his chemistry with the team in a bench role. But Mavs have limited assets and he can?t be their deadline move if they?re really trying to take a step.
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01-22-2024, 10:54 AM
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If it were as simple as DFS for someone like Curry, then sure. But not for the only move to upgrade. I'd gladly swap a guard out for a wing.
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01-22-2024, 11:21 AM
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If it were as simple as DFS for someone like Curry, then sure. But not for the only move to upgrade. I'd gladly swap a guard out for a wing.
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Yeah, if they want Grant Williams straight up, then sure. They aren't gonna do that.
Mavs are reportedly going for a bigger fish anyway. Lots of smoke with Kuzma and Washington.
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Yeah, if they want Grant Williams straight up, then sure. They aren't gonna do that.
Mavs are reportedly going for a bigger fish anyway. Lots of smoke with Kuzma and Washington.
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I'd like Kuzma to become a fire.
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I officially want Kuzma and Gafford in a trade. THJ would have to be included, as I would imagine a first rounder and/or multiple seconds. The contracts are favorable for the Luka/Kyrie window and fit much better than THJ and supposed trade sweeteners Green and Hardy, not sure OMax carries much trade weight.
Kuzma more than replaces THJ's scoring while providing size and rebounding. Gafford provides very quality depth to the front court and further addresses the rebounding problem while providing a bit of rim protection.
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01-22-2024, 03:25 PM
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THJ/Holmes/Green/Hardy and a first for Kuzma/Gafford. Not sure they take it, but I also don't know what else we have to offer.
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01-22-2024, 04:17 PM
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THJ/Holmes/Green/Hardy and a first for Kuzma/Gafford. Not sure they take it, but I also don't know what else we have to offer.
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Prob should be enough with the 1st. Hell they're 7-35.
They get:
2 young promising guards - Green, Hardy
a "wink wink" excellent shooter/tough shot maker - THJ
Expiring pf/C combo
1st rounder.
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Nets apparently want 2 1sts for DFS, so we can scratch him off the list.
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