NBA Season 17-18: General Thread - Page 4 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Underdog · 10-27-2017, 06:51 PM

@ShamsCharania: Sources: The NBA has granted Boston an $8.4M disabled player exception for the loss of Gordon Hayward for the season. The DPE expires March 10.

Jack.Kerr · 11-01-2017, 04:45 AM

To Mavs fans, for whom it could be a long season:

Follow Porzingis. He's worth watching. (And if you can do so without having to listen to Walt Frazier's inane drunken rhyming, so much the better.)

KP in the middle of a very hot streak right now, with 5 of 6 games >30pts (Boston held him to 12 with constant double-teaming). Hit some insanely long 3-pointers v. the Nuggets the other night as if he were taking 15-footers, the kind that would've turned Steph Curry's head.

He is also a defensive presence with that height and reach. You can see opposing players looking over their shoulders when they go inside.

He is young, still developing, needs more strength; neither his shot nor his game are the thing of beauty that Dirk's were in his prime; but with Jackson and Anthony both departed, KP has a chance to be Dirk 2.0 in a few years, barring injury or MSG-induced psychosis.

For admirers of Dirk, it could bring a sentimental tear to your eye.

saclare · 11-01-2017, 09:17 AM

He's damn good. It was laughable when people thought the NYK would trade him. I know we can't put it past that franchise to do something like that, but man, you could see it last year. He's taking the next step with Carmelo gone. Hardaway is coming around for them as well. Not a far cry to say they will finish above us in overall rankings, making our pick that much better, and not having to hope they screw it all up again (thanks to them for DSJ!).

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-01-2017, 09:45 AM

Well we've known KP has had the potential to be great for a while.

The bigger surprise among tall white euros that can shoot is Lauri. I think most of us are going to be wrong about him. I remember the trade rumor of Wes/9 for Rubio/7. I'm glad we have Smith Jr, but that trade doesn't look so silly in hindsight.

dirt_dobber · 11-01-2017, 11:44 AM

Kevin Arnovitz‏@kevinarnovitz
The Phoenix Suns "7 Seconds or Less" '04-'05 team, which led the NBA in pace, would rank 25th this season.

EricaLubarsky · 11-01-2017, 03:36 PM

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Kevin Arnovitz‏@kevinarnovitz
The Phoenix Suns "7 Seconds or Less" '04-'05 team, which led the NBA in pace, would rank 25th this season.

NBA wanted higher scores so they gave the advantage to shooters and gives on the drive. Teams realized that they can maximize that advantage by getting in more possessions.

The league is no longer balanced for defenders, so this is the natural consequence.

saclare · 11-03-2017, 11:29 AM

0 points for the Big Baller

mac222b · 11-03-2017, 11:33 AM

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0 points for the Big Baller

It was Dame Lillard's "defense" dog

Jack.Kerr · 11-05-2017, 09:49 AM

Porzingis v. Suns: 11.03.2017, 37P 7R 3B

EricaLubarsky · 11-05-2017, 05:32 PM

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Porzingis v. Suns: 11.03.2017, 37P 7R 3B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmIURIqjDmY

Bryan_Wilson · 11-05-2017, 05:35 PM

Cavs 25secs away from losing to Hawks

EricaLubarsky · 11-05-2017, 05:41 PM

Muahahahaha

Now cheering for Sac to win one so we're the last team with only 1 in the win column

Jack.Kerr · 11-05-2017, 09:57 PM

Porzingis v. Pacers: 11.05.2017 40P 8R 6B

Knicks Q4 Rally from 17-pt deficit FTW.

Don't miss this show.

EricaLubarsky · 11-05-2017, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Porzingis v. Pacers: 11.05.2017 40P 8R 6B

Knicks Q4 Rally from 17-pt deficit FTW.

Don't miss this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmIURIqjDmY

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-05-2017, 10:22 PM

Frank played well tonight. 10pts/7assists/3 steals. Think that kinda stat line is what he will eventually average.

mac222b · 11-05-2017, 10:34 PM

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Frank played well tonight. 10pts/7assists/3 steals. Think that kinda stat line is what he will eventually average.

He should be a good all around player. Wouldn’t have been sad to end up with him. He’s like a rich mans George Hill, except more athletic and maybe a purer point guard.

j0Shi · 11-06-2017, 04:45 AM

Good to see KP having a breakout year. 38+37+40 in last four is no fluke. Wow.

tap2390 · 11-06-2017, 07:56 AM

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Frank played well tonight. 10pts/7assists/3 steals. Think that kinda stat line is what he will eventually average.

Maybe Knicks fans will put down the DSJ voodoo dolls now.

Also, man I wish we had KP.

Jack.Kerr · 11-06-2017, 09:15 AM

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Maybe Knicks fans will put down the DSJ voodoo dolls now.

Also, man I wish we had KP.

Smith looks more NBA-ready out-of-the-box; Ntilikina may have a higher ceiling, if he can stay healthy. He stepped up and confidently hit the go-ahead 3 versus Phoenix (on an assist from Porzingis) last night (which admittedly could've either been ice water in his veins, or not knowing enough to be nervous).

Both players probably got with the team that was best for them.

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-06-2017, 10:56 AM

Oh and lol Clippers losing to the Heat at home. I know the Heat blew that lead, but still, Whiteside>Jordan and it's not really close.

Jack.Kerr · 11-06-2017, 10:59 AM

Once a thug,

...always a thug.

Underdog · 11-06-2017, 11:04 AM

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Once a thug, always a thug.

Aren't they supposed to be a "super team"? OKC has won only 3 more games than the Mavs, good for 12th in the West...

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-06-2017, 11:19 AM

LMAO at the responses like the NBA is soft. Decking a player to the ground like that isn't being tough. That's just stupid. Look at the way Anthony walks off the court. He knows exactly what he did.

Jack.Kerr · 11-06-2017, 11:44 AM

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LMAO at the responses like the NBA is soft. Decking a player to the ground like that isn't being tough. That's just stupid. Look at the way Anthony walks off the court. He knows exactly what he did.

Exactly. If that's not intentional, he explodes.

Those OKC tv analysts are asinine.

GlowerPower · 11-06-2017, 08:32 PM

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Aren't they supposed to be a "super team"? OKC has won only 3 more games than the Mavs, good for 12th in the West...

Melo is just a cancer. One of the most overrated players in our era.

Underdog · 11-06-2017, 08:39 PM

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Melo is just a cancer. One of the most overrated players in our era.

You won't get any argument from me on that one.

BPo001 · 11-07-2017, 10:31 AM

Phoenix finalizing deal to send Eric Bledsoe to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and a first-round draft pick, sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA

EricaLubarsky · 11-07-2017, 10:58 AM

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Phoenix finalizing deal to send Eric Bledsoe to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and a first-round draft pick, sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA

Phoenix got a good deal for him. Greg Monroe is not a piece on a champion, but he's a guy who can score and fill seats while staying bad. First rounder will likely be low, but it's some value. Bledsoe was going to be hard to trade with that big contract.

Bryan_Wilson · 11-07-2017, 11:00 AM

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Phoenix got a good deal for him. Greg Monroe is not a piece on a champion, but he's a guy who can score and fill seats while staying bad. First rounder will likely be low, but it's some value. Bledsoe was going to be hard to trade with that big contract.

Yeah good for both teams. I like that the Bucks are going for it with the Cavs looking so beatable this year.

The more important question, will Monroe help the Suns get a win or two or will he be a tank commander?

DevinHarriswillstart · 11-07-2017, 11:03 AM

Great move by Milwaukee. They've been trying to get rid of Monroe for while now. Getting Bledsoe for him is a big win.

Underdog · 11-07-2017, 11:59 AM

Great for the Bucks/Bledsoe -- he'll be a good fit on a playoff team pushing for contention.

Not so great for the Suns/Monroe -- he isn't going to move the needle on one of the worst teams in the league.

EricaLubarsky · 11-07-2017, 12:25 PM

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Great for the Bucks/Bledsoe -- he'll be a good fit on a playoff team pushing for contention.

Not so great for the Suns/Monroe -- he isn't going to move the needle on one of the worst teams in the league.

Monroe is a pretty decent piece and will make the Suns slightly better than Mr. DNP in the very shor term. Suns aren't contending either way and Monroe is a big expiring contract. Suns basically dropped 15 million off their cap next year with Monroe if they let him walk.

Underdog · 11-07-2017, 12:48 PM

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Suns basically dropped 15 million off their cap next year with Monroe if they let him walk.

Not sure how this helps a team that nobody wants to play for -- it's just going to make it that much harder for them to meet the cap floor over the next few years.

EricaLubarsky · 11-07-2017, 01:18 PM

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Not sure how this helps a team that nobody wants to play for -- it's just going to make it that much harder for them to meet the cap floor over the next few years.

And thus the Mavs are the big winners.

Monroe shows that overpaid stiffs can still be traded so we may be able to dump Powell next year

AND

Suns may be desperate enough to take on some contracts from us once they desperately fail to sign anyone of significance this offseason.

Okay, okay. I'm taking off my homer glasses. Suns will overpay someone mediocre. Powell is probably still on the team at the end of next season. Mavs are probably still lottery bound next season.

sefant77 · 11-07-2017, 01:51 PM

Suns giving a shit about Monroe...all they wanted is a 1st + expiring.

EricaLubarsky · 11-07-2017, 03:05 PM

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Suns giving a shit about Monroe...all they wanted is a 1st + expiring.

I'd agree, but I honestly think he'll get some significant PT this year...and then after they strike out on all their free agent targets, they'll offer Monroe a significant contract to stay with them because of minimum NBA salary...just like us and Powell.

mac222b · 11-07-2017, 04:55 PM

Nice trade for both teams. Looks like the 1st is heavily protected though and wont convey in '18

BPo001 · 11-07-2017, 09:35 PM

Suns looking to flip Monroe. I'd say take a look and see if you can get them to attach a pick with it. Team needs to acquire assets.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...rather-buy-out

Underdog · 11-07-2017, 10:04 PM

@ESPNStatsInfo: In terms of total points + rebounds + assists, Michael Jordan and LeBron James got there differently, but are nearly identical through 1,072 career games.

sefant77 · 11-07-2017, 11:14 PM

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Suns looking to flip Monroe. I'd say take a look and see if you can get them to attach a pick with it. Team needs to acquire assets.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...rather-buy-out

lol, Monroe is an expiring. Suns dont wanna buy him out because they hope someone else is trading for Monroe and throws an useless player with an expiring contract + 2nd rounder in...

If they dont find someone they let him expire...makes zero sense why they should attach a pick to "dump" Monroe