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sefant77 · 03-01-2011, 05:54 PM

Thornton is offense, no defense and no bb iq whatsoever. We dont need that.

Brewer > Sasha > Thornton

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Sources close to the situation tell ESPN.com that Al Thornton, freshly bought out by Wizards, is Golden State-bound if he clears waivers

Dtownsfinest · 03-01-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Thornton is offense, no defense and no bb iq whatsoever. We dont need that.

Brewer > Sasha > Thornton

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Sources close to the situation tell ESPN.com that Al Thornton, freshly bought out by Wizards, is Golden State-bound if he clears waivers

Yea but just like Brewer I don't think he's hit his full potential if he ever does. He may not but Al Thortnon is still a young player. He must be a headcase because he showed flashes in LA and now he's already on his 3rd team.

mac222b · 03-01-2011, 06:06 PM

We've been through this before but i believe SA has used their MLE on Splitter.
I recall some confusion though...

Kidd Karma · 03-01-2011, 06:11 PM

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We've been through this before but i believe SA has used their MLE on Splitter.
I recall some confusion though...

My assumption is he would have signed a rookie contract based on his draft status as a 1st round pick....back in 2008.

Kidd Karma · 03-01-2011, 06:17 PM

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We've been through this before but i believe SA has used their MLE on Splitter.
I recall some confusion though...

Hmm, did some researching, seems you get off the rookie wage scale 3 years after you are drafted. Splitter was drafted in 2007. Could have been signed via the MLE.

mavs777 · 03-01-2011, 06:24 PM

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Thornton had GSW in mind, anyway we can charge tampering there, since it does appear it was prearranged.

sounds similar to the Peja situation huh?

Just saying

Kidd Karma · 03-01-2011, 06:32 PM

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sounds similar to the Peja situation huh?

Just saying

....agent setup....true, he probably doesn't get waived without a request from his agent. is today the last day to be waived to be eligible for the playoffs?

mavs777 · 03-01-2011, 06:41 PM

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....agent setup....true, he probably doesn't get waived without a request from his agent. is today the last day to be waived to be eligible for the playoffs?

I believe so

MavsFTR · 03-01-2011, 09:34 PM

What's the latest?

OSUmavsfan · 03-01-2011, 10:07 PM

If someone is bought out, don't they have to clear waivers? Why can't a team claim Brewer on waivers and just pay the rest of his contract for the year, which would only be about $1 million I believe?

jthig32 · 03-01-2011, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Hmm, did some researching, seems you get off the rookie wage scale 3 years after you are drafted. Splitter was drafted in 2007. Could have been signed via the MLE.

SA has roughly a third of their MLE left.

j0Shi · 03-01-2011, 10:24 PM

Brewer has been waived. Not bought out. I think that could be the difference but not sure either.

jthig32 · 03-01-2011, 10:25 PM

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If someone is bought out, don't they have to clear waivers? Why can't a team claim Brewer on waivers and just pay the rest of his contract for the year, which would only be about $1 million I believe?

That's actually a really good question. You have to have cap space or a Trade exception to make the claim, but the Mavs certainly have a large enough Trade Exception to do that.

The simple answer might just be that the Mavs are not offering more than the veteran minimum for Brewer.

LonghornDub · 03-01-2011, 10:34 PM

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The simple answer might just be that the Mavs are not offering more than the veteran minimum for Brewer.

Would there be any rationale for not offering at least part of our MLE, other than just straight-up not wanting to pay him more than vet-minimum dollars?

jthig32 · 03-01-2011, 10:47 PM

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Would there be any rationale for not offering at least part of our MLE, other than just straight-up not wanting to pay him more than vet-minimum dollars?

Not that I know of. There is a very slight savings for vet minimum contracts because the league subsidizes part of it. But I can't imagine that making a meaningful difference in this case.

BGMaverick9 · 03-01-2011, 11:20 PM

@CoreyBrewer22 said "Thanks for all the support everyone I have some amazing options right now. I'm in tampa working out right now so ill be ready."

and, "I plan on being back on the court real soon"

MavsFTR · 03-02-2011, 01:52 AM

So just to make sure, whoever we get at this point won't be allowed to play in the playoffs this year. Am I right?

mavs777 · 03-02-2011, 01:55 AM

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So just to make sure, whoever we get at this point won't be allowed to play in the playoffs this year. Am I right?

your wrong

Rick41 · 03-02-2011, 08:33 AM

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So just to make sure, whoever we get at this point won't be allowed to play in the playoffs this year. Am I right?

Sasha and Brewer both qualify.

CATCH-17 · 03-02-2011, 09:16 AM

Come on Mavs please get Brewer!

kenny_817 · 03-02-2011, 10:18 AM

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So just to make sure, whoever we get at this point won't be allowed to play in the playoffs this year. Am I right?

You are incorrect. As long as said player was waived/bought out before midnight last night...they can join another team and be a part of the playoff roster. Doesn't matter when said p;ayer signs with new team...they have until the last day of the regular season if I recall correctly

kenny_817 · 03-02-2011, 10:22 AM

@hoopshype 9:18AM - BOS making a hard run at Corey Brewer

"It shouldn’t surprise you to hear that Boston is pushing as hard for Brewer as anyone, given that the Celts tried to trade for Brewer before Minnesota sent him to New York as part of the three-way Carmelo Anthony deal. Celtics president Danny Ainge and coach Doc Rivers are said to be Brewer fans and personally lobbying him. Hard."

Bad news! Although the good news would be that the Spurs wouldn't have him

"But Boston and San Antonio, in this case, can’t compete financially with the Dallas Mavericks, who have their full mid-level exception remaining -- worth just under $4 million as of Wednesday because the figure is reduced daily from its original $5.8 million at this juncture of the season -- to comfortably exceed any offer the Celtics or Spurs could make. The Celts actually have the least to pitch financially of the three teams, sitting more than $5 million over the luxury-tax threshold and limited to offering a pro-rated share of the league minimum just as they gave Murphy. With the Spurs only about $1 million away from the tax line and likewise only possessing cap exceptions worth $1.5 and $1.2 million, respectively, Dallas would appear to have a clear bidding advantage over their neighbors from the NBA elite, fitting as it might be to see Brewer wind up with the Spurs given the frequent comparisons linking Brewer to Bruce Bowen."

GOOD NEWS!!!

JeffViggiano · 03-02-2011, 10:46 AM

we want corey!!!!

rabbitproof · 03-02-2011, 11:27 AM

I kind of doubt we're throwing the whole MLE at him. Figure the Mavs would've traded a 2nd/TE and had him at 2.xM vs. launching a multi-MLE contract at him.

Hope we land this guy though.

Kidd Karma · 03-02-2011, 11:53 AM

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@hoopshype 9:18AM - BOS making a hard run at Corey Brewer

"It shouldn’t surprise you to hear that Boston is pushing as hard for Brewer as anyone, given that the Celts tried to trade for Brewer before Minnesota sent him to New York as part of the three-way Carmelo Anthony deal. Celtics president Danny Ainge and coach Doc Rivers are said to be Brewer fans and personally lobbying him. Hard."

Bad news! Although the good news would be that the Spurs wouldn't have him

GOOD NEWS!!!

Corey hasn't committed, maybe his agent knows Dallas has the MLE and is waiting for it, multi year style. Seems he wants PT to show his wares for his next contract, but if you give him a multi year deal, that should do the trick. It ain't over, Mavs just got to keep pushing.

Dirkenstien · 03-02-2011, 11:54 AM

Feeling good about the possibilities here ...

sefant77 · 03-02-2011, 12:16 PM

Boston has PP/Green for SF, that means he would be the SG backup for Allen.

In Dallas he compete for the 48 SF minutes with Peja and 2/3 of Marions PT (since the other third of Marions minutes gonna be at PF). He could easily beat Peja as starter but no way he beats Allen or PP as starter.

Kidd Karma · 03-02-2011, 12:24 PM

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Boston has PP/Green for SF, that means he would be the SG backup for Allen.

In Dallas he compete for the 48 SF minutes with Peja and 2/3 of Marions PT (since the other third of Marions minutes gonna be at PF). He could easily beat Peja as starter but no way he beats Allen or PP as starter.

...Cuban can tell him that Pierce can play the 2 when Green's in there.

SF Pierce 18, Green 30
SG Allen 32, Pierce 16

Green was a 30MPG+ guy in OK City.

JeffViggiano · 03-02-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Boston has PP/Green for SF, that means he would be the SG backup for Allen.

In Dallas he compete for the 48 SF minutes with Peja and 2/3 of Marions PT (since the other third of Marions minutes gonna be at PF). He could easily beat Peja as starter but no way he beats Allen or PP as starter.

peja is a walking dead...i want corey.

kidd-roddy-brewer-dirk-chandler is a good mix with offensive and difensive players!

sefant77 · 03-02-2011, 02:12 PM

And its not just adding Brewer, its also taking him off the Spurs.

mavs777 · 03-02-2011, 02:14 PM

keeping him away, he isn't currently on the Spurs. And I agree their bench can score but they really lack a defensive stopper on their bench

OSUmavsfan · 03-02-2011, 02:38 PM

From Hollinger's chat:

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John Hollinger
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Issue for Brewer comes down to money -- he's got teams offering multiyear deals out of their midlevel exception money, which Boston can't match. I think it may come down to Charlotte, Dallas and New Orleans. It would be awesome if New Orleans outbid Dallas, just to see Mark Cuban's reaction.

Kidd Karma · 03-02-2011, 03:01 PM

Hmmm, all close to his southern roots too.

mavs777 · 03-02-2011, 03:03 PM

Wouldn't Brewer just be a little worse version of Ariza for NO they want that?

Mavericks Rockets Fan · 03-02-2011, 03:05 PM

I know this is unrelated, but there is something that has been worrying me. What if we get the Hornets again in the first round? What will we do to slow down CP3?

Mav Addict · 03-02-2011, 03:06 PM

Ugh!....Hollinger is such a thorn in my ass....now why would pissing off Mark Cuban be so awesome?

It would be shame if Brewer selected Charlotte or New Orleans over Dallas, and neither team make the playoffs....

mavs777 · 03-02-2011, 03:09 PM

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I know this is unrelated, but there is something that has been worrying me. What if we get the Hornets again in the first round? What will we do to slow down CP3?

Everything I have heard is that he is a step slower and is lacking that first step explosion he had in the past, I saw an article today that was basically saying he is playing the game a lot like Stockton

JeffViggiano · 03-02-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Rockets Fan

I know this is unrelated, but there is something that has been worrying me. What if we get the Hornets again in the first round? What will we do to slow down CP3?

What will we do to slow down dirk,jj e terry???? the hornets sucks.

Mav Addict · 03-02-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Rockets Fan

I know this is unrelated, but there is something that has been worrying me. What if we get the Hornets again in the first round? What will we do to slow down CP3?

CP3 is not as explosive as he used to be due to the meniscus tear he suffered last season

This team is not the same team, or CP3, that beat us in '09

Mav Addict · 03-02-2011, 03:16 PM

He's more Jason Kidd than Derrick Rose now....Regardless of his decline, I would still give a left testicle to get him in a Mav Uni

EDIT: I meant the right testicle...already gave the left one way for Deron Williams