Rodrigue Beaubois development thread - Page 55 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

MavsFTR · 03-01-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneLove22

Not really lol because Marion plays the 3...

Think he means to send him off in a packaged deal.

MavsFTR · 03-01-2012, 02:43 PM

Roddy had a good game yesterday. 16 points on 7-16 shooting with a lot of attacking to the basket.

BGMaverick9 · 03-01-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

Roddy had a good game yesterday. 16 points on 7-16 shooting with a lot of attacking to the basket.

He had a great second quarter. That's about as far as I'm willing to go. Once Memphis started to keep tabs on him more/put more of an emphasis to slow him down, he faded away a bit.

j0Shi · 03-01-2012, 04:40 PM

I think that's what Roddy can give you right now. An energetic half and to be fair, he played two and a half good games in a row (dating back to February, 8th in Denver) before that second half yesterday happened.

Asking him to carry the offense for the whole game is too much.

MavsFTR · 03-02-2012, 10:43 PM

Roddy appears to be on the right track.

MavsFTR · 03-03-2012, 12:10 AM

Who could we get in exchange that's worth giving up a young talent?

j0Shi · 03-03-2012, 12:58 PM

Eh. Deron not coming this season, no way.

JHT · 03-03-2012, 03:08 PM

The Mavs are never going to get Deron. What reason does Deron have to come here when Dirk isn't really Dirk anymore and the supporting cast is non-existent?

This team is going to have to majorly turn things around and fast, for this to be an attractive destination for him. Otherwise, might as well stay with the Nets.

CadBane · 03-04-2012, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JHT

The Mavs are never going to get Deron. What reason does Deron have to come here when Dirk isn't really Dirk anymore and the supporting cast is non-existent?

This team is going to have to majorly turn things around and fast, for this to be an attractive destination for him. Otherwise, might as well stay with the Nets.

Uhh...Dirk has put up 23/8 on 46/39/86 since Feb.

mavs531 · 03-04-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JHT

The Mavs are never going to get Deron. What reason does Deron have to come here when Dirk isn't really Dirk anymore and the supporting cast is non-existent?

This team is going to have to majorly turn things around and fast, for this to be an attractive destination for him. Otherwise, might as well stay with the Nets.

Are you kidding me? Stfu. Also, Dirk 40 points on 14-21 shooting in 29 minutes vs. Utah. Again, stfu.

MavsFTR · 03-03-2012, 03:22 PM

Dirk is still Dirk. Dallas is Deron's hometown. Cuban is a great owner. Rick Carlisle is a better coach than Avery. There's plenty of reasons why he may come to Dallas. Now kindly stfu.

j0Shi · 03-03-2012, 08:27 PM

So much for showcasing I guess as Roddy comes off the bench again. So move clearly was to tweak bench units with Carter at 3 and Marion at 4. Now with Odom it's back to normal.

endrity · 03-04-2012, 04:01 AM

Kind of disappointed to see Roddy back in the bench, Jet and Vince work well together, so does Roddy with Kidd. It's better to have him start I think.

jthig32 · 03-04-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by endrity

Kind of disappointed to see Roddy back in the bench, Jet and Vince work well together, so does Roddy with Kidd. It's better to have him start I think.

With Odom back Roddy's back to playing backup PG, rather than SG. That's just the way the roster works right now.

endrity · 03-04-2012, 11:09 AM

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With Odom back Roddy's back to playing backup PG, rather than SG. That's just the way the roster works right now.

I guess. But that's certainly not a way to build his confidence, he pretty almost won the NO game all by himself. You should give a young player confidence after that.

BGMaverick9 · 03-04-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by endrity

Kind of disappointed to see Roddy back in the bench, Jet and Vince work well together, so does Roddy with Kidd. It's better to have him start I think.

Carlisle said he was concerned about the minutes Roddy had logged leading up to the game versus the Jazz. He really likes the starting lineup with Haywood, Dirk, Marion, Kidd and Carter...especially from a +/- standpoint. He feels if they don't start with it, it's hard for them to find a way to get to it over the course of a game.

dude1394 · 03-04-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Carlisle said he was concerned about the minutes Roddy had logged leading up to the game versus the Jazz. He really likes the starting lineup with Haywood, Dirk, Marion, Kidd and Carter...especially from a +/- standpoint. He feels if they don't start with it, it's hard for them to find a way to get to it over the course of a game.

thanks BG.. That dumb old rick Carlisle, thinking about ten moves ahead of the board.

b_o_r · 03-04-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by endrity

Kind of disappointed to see Roddy back in the bench, Jet and Vince work well together, so does Roddy with Kidd. It's better to have him start I think.

That lineup could work well for Roddy ie (Terry/Lamar/Vince) but he has to learn to call his own number/plays. A high screen from Ian, with Carter/Terry posted in the corner and Lamar rolling to the basket should work. He did it last night for a 3pter to Lamar. Unfortunately when he slides to PG, he chooses to play like Kidd, passes it to the SG and stays on the perimeter

Kidd Karma · 03-07-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

That lineup could work well for Roddy ie (Terry/Lamar/Vince) but he has to learn to call his own number/plays. A high screen from Ian, with Carter/Terry posted in the corner and Lamar rolling to the basket should work. He did it last night for a 3pter to Lamar. Unfortunately when he slides to PG, he chooses to play like Kidd, passes it to the SG and stays on the perimeter

That's the strange part about RC's system, it doesn't really exploit personnel outside of kidd and dirk. WE are very systematic, PG is PG, SG is SG, SF is SF, PF is PF, and C is C. I found it interesting that we had to have a PF that had a simlar skill set to Dirk, first Tim Thomas, now Cardinal. But it explains why Roddy is more or less a spot up shooter when he's the PG. He takes on Kidd's role. But at the same time, I think we should be able to exploit Roddy's ability to break down and get into the paint regardless of the system, I mean Jet should easily roll into the PG role allowing Roddy to breakdown and create. I don't know, some times it's too rigid, too systematic.

j0Shi · 03-05-2012, 08:45 AM

Roddy at the hive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5jyX...ature=youtu.be

j0Shi · 03-06-2012, 01:04 PM

Roddy's defensive impact last night was insane: Held Westbrook to 2-8, 2 FTAs, 4.16 PER. Kidd allowed 10 FTAs, 22.7 PER.

b_o_r · 03-06-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

Roddy's defensive impact last night was insane: Held Westbrook to 2-8, 2 FTAs, 4.16 PER. Kidd allowed 10 FTAs, 22.7 PER.

Westbrook shouldn't have even had the 2fta. Should of had a couple of more blocks to his total last night if it weren't for the refs. Collision also traveled when Roddy came out to contest his jumper but it wasn't called. Roddy's length seems to bother Durant as well. Or maybe Durant isn't a good ball handler because he couldn't do anything against Kidd in the 4th.

Would have like to have seen him on Harden though instead of Terry during his run in the 4th. Harden drove on Terry at will.

Going forward, I would like to see him press the ball handler more.

sylvestian · 03-06-2012, 02:02 PM

He needs to start at the shooting again... his overall package could be huge for the mavs... coaches and the mavs offense structure in general def. limit him badly as a back point...

nowhereman · 03-06-2012, 02:44 PM

Roddy even had a great contest on Durant, forcing a wild shot... but we botched the box-out and Collison tipped it in.

j0Shi · 03-06-2012, 03:37 PM

Indeed tremendous effort on that one post-up against Durant. He initially blocked the shot, but Durant was able to throw it up at the rim regardless.

MavsFTR · 03-06-2012, 11:05 PM

Roddy with another good game.

endrity · 03-07-2012, 05:20 AM

He used to have a good game where he would tease us and then go 10-15 games without doing it again. Now it's more like 3-4. He's becoming more consistent but I still think that we are best served with Roddy as a starter, just like Barea did in the Finals. Except of course, that he can defend quite well also.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-07-2012, 09:33 AM

There is no question that the consistency of play is directly related to the consistent minutes he is getting lately. Roddy has had a pretty decent season all things considered. Keep it up young fella.

JeffViggiano · 03-07-2012, 11:48 AM

i love this guy!

JeffViggiano · 03-07-2012, 11:50 AM

roddy >>>>>>> lin

ribosoma · 03-07-2012, 12:48 PM

Props to Roddy for handling adversity so well. I was a wreck after my father passed away. With each passing game, he looks more comfortable and in control out there. I really hope he gets a chance to stay here, even if we get Deron and Dwight in the offseason. I'm not sure how realistic that is, but I think that he would beast with 3D as teammates.

mavsfan1000 · 03-07-2012, 03:45 PM

I wonder what will happen when West comes back.

Kidd Karma · 03-07-2012, 04:14 PM

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I wonder what will happen when West comes back.

Probably backup point guard. Roddy will be probably see most of his minutes at the 2. Could this be the reason why Fish thought we were showcasing Boobs a couple days back? Give a chip in Roddy to take the salary of Lamar for an upgrade/expiring at the 3-4 backup spot? Thus knocking down 2 birds with a chip in Boobs, eliminate Boobs salary and Odom's buyout.

Underdog · 03-07-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

I wonder what will happen when West comes back.

I'm hoping West/Roddy will coexist matchup-to-matchup the same way Stevenson/Barea did last season.

mavs777 · 03-07-2012, 04:17 PM

anybody have a synergy account?

mavs777 · 03-07-2012, 04:26 PM

So got some help on twitter, Roddy's 2 biggest strengths on offense is his catch and shoot/shoot with no dribble, and pick and roll.

Pick and roll= 84th percentile
Catch and shoot= 84th percentile
No dribble=93rd percentile

In other words he should stop shooting pull up jumpshots.

dude1394 · 03-07-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

So got some help on twitter, Roddy's 2 biggest strengths on offense is his catch and shoot/shoot with no dribble, and pick and roll.

Pick and roll= 84th percentile
Catch and shoot= 84th percentile
No dribble=93rd percentile

In other words he should stop shooting pull up jumpshots.

So should Vince. If they are stepping into them fine, but dribbling sideways is a mistake.

j0Shi · 03-07-2012, 04:33 PM

That's nothing new. I already wondered last season why the Mavs didn't use Roddy as spot-up shooter playing off the ball more often, because he was the best on the team shooting them.

b_o_r · 03-07-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

So got some help on twitter, Roddy's 2 biggest strengths on offense is his catch and shoot/shoot with no dribble, and pick and roll.

Pick and roll= 84th percentile
Catch and shoot= 84th percentile
No dribble=93rd percentile

In other words he should stop shooting pull up jumpshots.

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

That's nothing new. I already wondered last season why the Mavs didn't use Roddy as spot-up shooter playing off the ball more often, because he was the best on the team shooting them.

Do you know what his numbers where his rookie year? I was pretty certain he was much better jump shooter off the dribble his 1st year, and his decline in that area is the result of no off season to work on his footwork.

JHT · 03-07-2012, 08:47 PM

Here's something I haven't heard anyone talking about...

Have any of you noticed just how good Roddy is at defending MUCH larger players?

It happens at least 2 or 3 times a game. Roddy gets switched onto the other team's much bigger PF or SF and has to go one on one with them. I'd say at least 75% of the time Roddy stops them. It was most noticable against OKC this week, OKC kept trying to work things so Roddy would end up on Durant... and it seemed clear that Carlisle didn't even care, he just kept letting it happen and Roddy basically stopped Durant every time.

He does a really good job of holding his ground against much bigger players and his long arms and insane leaping ability make it waay harder to get a shot up over him than those big players usually expect.