02-01-2008, 04:01 PM
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I can't stand seeing teams get stars for nothing. This is total BS. Chicago gave them so much more yet they turned it down. Memphis, I hate you. I hope their fans go off on this. I hope their franchise rots.
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02-01-2008, 04:05 PM
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The West just got tougher...
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02-01-2008, 04:06 PM
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REALLY~~
thats going to help lakers a lot
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02-01-2008, 04:13 PM
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Center- Bynum (when he gets back from injury)[when is that?]
PF- Gasol
SF- Odom
SG - Kobe
PG- Fisher / et al
That is a great lineup.
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02-01-2008, 04:15 PM
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who is the GM in memphis? Kevin McKale? is this a freaking fire sale. what a dumbass. I have never heard of such stupidity. You ask for ODOM, for Bynum, for Farmar, For anyone else... kwame brown. What a dumbasss. what a freaking dumbass. Im sorry guys but u guys realize we are probably going to go thru a team that just got that much tougher because of this dumbass. This is the new face of dumbass
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02-01-2008, 04:17 PM
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L.A. gave up a real good player in Javaris Crittenton.
That dude can play!
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02-01-2008, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber
Center- Bynum (when he gets back from injury)[when is that?]
PF- Gasol
SF- Odom
SG - Kobe
PG- Fisher / et al
That is a great lineup.
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haha, nice~~~
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02-01-2008, 04:29 PM
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http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/080201gasol_trade.html
The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired forward Pau Gasol in a trade with the Memphis Grizzlies, it was announced today by General Manager Mitch Kupchak. The Lakers will also receive the Grizzlies second round draft choice in 2010. In exchange Memphis will receive forward Kwame Brown, guard Javaris Crittenton, guard Aaron McKie (who the Lakers signed earlier today), the draft rights to Marc Gasol and first round picks in 2008 and 2010.
Gasol, a 7th year player out of Spain, is averaging 18.9 points, 8.8 rebounds and 1.44 blocked shots per game this season. The 27 year old 7’0” forward/center has career averages of 18.8 points and 8.6 rebounds. A 2006 NBA All-Star and 2001-02 NBA Rookie of the Year, Gasol also won a gold medal with Spain at the 2006 FIBA World Championships while being named tournament MVP.
“We’re extremely pleased to be able to make this trade.” said Kupchak. “Pau is a proven player of all-star caliber in this league who can score and rebound and he’s still a young player. We feel this move strengthens our team in the short term as well as the long term.”
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02-01-2008, 04:30 PM
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people are saying jerry west might have influenced this deal a bit, kind of like mchale-ainge made the KG deal.
The west though got that much tougher. We gotta use KVH's contract for someone, Mike Miller, Ron Artest, or Kidd. And I agree with a point made earlier, if a in-his-prime Gasol is worth this little Jason Kidd can't be that much more. Read today's article on dallasbasketball.com. David Lord makes a great point when he says that the deal that has been presented up to now, is probably driven by the Nets because there is no way the Mavs or Blazers give that much up.
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02-01-2008, 04:31 PM
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Crap. This bites. I'm sure there were plenty of teams in the East with expiring contracts that Memphis could have made a deal with instead. Yet they chose to trade Gasol within the same conference to the team with the best player in the world and got absolutely nothing in return.
Idiots!!
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02-01-2008, 04:34 PM
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kwame brown
2007-08 Statistics
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5.7
RPG
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Pau Gasol
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at what point in looking at these stats do you say, eureka.... we got a match. Why is it that its always haves and have-nots... F mark cuban, F the nba , f avery johnson, f donnie nelson, f second half josh howard, f the celtics, f the mavs, f pau gasol and kwame brown, f it all. Im cancelling my nba tv until the mavs make a move. see you guys come may or june.
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02-01-2008, 04:35 PM
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Holy crap, what a deal for the Lakers. The Lakers just moved themselves up to championship contender status again.
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02-01-2008, 04:35 PM
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"I have dreamed a dream... and now that dream has been taken from me"
If they could get Gasol for cap relief why the hell couldn't we have used KVH's contract and draft picks? Throw Bass and others in there is you have to, this is absolutely ridiculous. He should have been ours!!!
I'm with the people on the whole Chicago package thing... I can't realistically believe their package wouldn't have been better for Memphis. I'm sure it was, it's just... illogical.
It's on ESPN now... everywhere. If they plan on moving Miller as well perhaps we can get in on that.
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02-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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Did Memphis at least get a Kiss? ? ?
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02-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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Expiring contracts were all it took to get Gasol?
Memphis just got robbed highway style.
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02-01-2008, 04:45 PM
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I think every team in the NBA other than the Lakers are scratching their head right now saying: "Geeesh, why didn't we think of that?"
We seriously should have been able to do something with KVH's contract and something else to get Gasol. I just don't see how we didn't try to get in on this one way or another.
What the hell were we doing?
Lakers front office just made everybody else look BAD.
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02-01-2008, 04:47 PM
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“We’re extremely pleased to be able to make this trade.” said Kupchak.
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That's the understatement of the year.
I've been wondering, how are all these idiot GM's like Kupchak and Ainge having these superstars fall into their laps this year? At this rate, we're going to see Kevin McHale pulling the strings on a LeBron deal in a week or two.
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02-01-2008, 04:48 PM
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the nba is a one legged whore named Bertha and David Stern is its pimp.
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02-01-2008, 04:51 PM
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damn. the mavs are doomed. how can we contend with all these insane teams just littered with stars? i think our window is gone now. go ahead, get Kidd....might as well take a gamble.
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02-01-2008, 04:51 PM
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Celtics land Garnett through ridiculous deal from T-Wolves ....
Lakers get even more super ridiculous deal to land Pau.
lakers v. celts! that's got conspiracy written all over it. this is a conspiracy where in Celtic-McHale infiltrated the t-wolves and long-time laker Jerry West infiltrated the Grizz...
granted, West is no longer calling the shots for the grizz....still, this has to be an nba conspiracy to reignite the celts - lakers rivalry.
i'm pretty sure, anyway.
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02-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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lol, alex, you might just be onto something...
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02-01-2008, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexamenos
Celtics land Garnett through ridiculous deal from T-Wolves ....
Lakers get even more super ridiculous deal to land Pau.
lakers v. celts! that's got conspiracy written all over it. this is a conspiracy where in Celtic-McHale infiltrated the t-wolves and long-time laker Jerry West infiltrated the Grizz...
granted, West is no longer calling the shots for the grizz....still, this has to be an nba conspiracy to reignite the celts - lakers rivalry.
i'm pretty sure, anyway.
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Its like i said, the nba is a one legged whore named bertha, and david stern is its pimp. all of this sh-t is fake. Im effing tired of this sh-t. Come on, give us a freaking break. Give us one freaking star at a cheap price. when was the last time we got a god deal here? and don't give me that eddie jones or brandon bass bullsh-t. Im a big bass fan, but dont even start comparing him to a gasol.
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02-01-2008, 04:57 PM
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Man I feel bad for those Memphis fans. I don't know what I would do if Dallas pulled a Memphis.
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02-01-2008, 04:58 PM
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02-01-2008, 04:59 PM
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2 #1 picks is always a bit of a price to pay. But I guess Gasol isn't that old, and Bynums left testicle dropped yesterday. And Kobe can probably play until 39 knowing him.
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02-01-2008, 05:01 PM
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What an absolute steal for the Lakers. I can't believe the Mavs couldn't top that offer.
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02-01-2008, 05:02 PM
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I agree with the notion that the Mavs should be burning up the phone to get Mike Miller. A starting lineup of Harris/Miller/Howard/Nowitzki/Dampier would be STOUT.
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02-01-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
2 #1 picks is always a bit of a price to pay. But I guess Gasol isn't that old, and Bynums left testicle dropped yesterday. And Kobe can probably play until 39 knowing him.
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Do both picks belong to the lakers? If so, two picks at the end of the first round isn't that much to give up.
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02-01-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kg_veteran
I agree with the notion that the Mavs should be burning up the phone to get Mike Miller. A starting lineup of Harris/Miller/Howard/Nowitzki/Dampier would be STOUT.
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I could go for that.
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02-01-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FINtastic
I could go for that.
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I advocated dealing Terry for Miller in the summer, before I realized that the Grizzlies were just giving players away. I'd still happily trade Terry in a three-team deal that sent an expirer to Memphis and Terry to the third team.
Harris - Barea
Miller - Jones
Howard - Stackhouse
Nowitzki - Bass
Dampier - Diop
That would allow Stackhouse to return to the role as sixth man and would give us a more well-rounded second unit, IMO. It would certainly improve the starting 5.
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02-01-2008, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flacolaco
2 #1 picks is always a bit of a price to pay. But I guess Gasol isn't that old, and Bynums left testicle dropped yesterday. And Kobe can probably play until 39 knowing him.
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Flaco I love ya man. I always enjoy the devil's advocate in you . But seriously man, this was a f-cked up deal, made by a GM attempting to doom other teams as his is .
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02-01-2008, 05:14 PM
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The reason we don't get Gasol is because Avery says "We like our team"!
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Dirk is already writing his memoirs called "One and Done".
I wouldn't say our window of opportunity is closed. It just turned into one of those small crank open bathroom windows!
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02-01-2008, 05:17 PM
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Ah, the old artificial expiring ruse. It's the oldest trick in the book!
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I imagine that Emperor Stern will close this loophole now that someone has actually used it. Probably all players automatically "retire" two years after their final game.
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I was looking at that. Odom's contract is only for 2 years - just like Kidd. All the Lakers need to do is add about $2.6M in young talent and the salaries are within the 25% rule.
It could happen
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02-01-2008, 05:35 PM
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Wow, great move from the Lakers.
This is what Kobe ordered. He will be very pleased. Very good team now.
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02-01-2008, 05:40 PM
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And can you imagine the gall of the Lakers asking for a 2nd rounder to finish the trade? Amazing
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02-01-2008, 05:42 PM
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Is there any way we could go in and undercut the deal?
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Dirk is already writing his memoirs called "One and Done".
I wouldn't say our window of opportunity is closed. It just turned into one of those small crank open bathroom windows!
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02-01-2008, 05:47 PM
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Is there any way that Gasol has some undisclosed injury/illness that voids this deal during the medical checkup?
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02-01-2008, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dortmund
I can't stand seeing teams get stars for nothing. This is total BS. Chicago gave them so much more yet they turned it down. Memphis, I hate you. I hope their fans go off on this. I hope their franchise rots.
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their franchise died some time ago. This is just the official funeral announcement. This is the statement that says, "we have to start all over"
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02-01-2008, 05:59 PM
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Do you think will force Dallas into doing something or will they just stay the way they are?
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02-01-2008, 06:04 PM
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This piss me off!
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