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Old 12-25-2008, 10:43 PM   #1
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Research Catholic Charities to start with. You are truly demonstrating a high degree of ignorance.
If I'm ignorant, that's fine. I'm certainly ignorant of a lot of things, so I don't take it as an insult. Educate me. Show me where the money goes.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:50 PM   #2
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If I'm ignorant, that's fine. I'm certainly ignorant of a lot of things, so I don't take it as an insult. Educate me. Show me where the money goes.
http://www.catholiccharities-md.org/...habetical.html

go to that link. place your mouse over the top heading "services"; note the drop down options to research.

have fun.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:52 PM   #3
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Church groups send persons and money and equipment to Africa and many other places to drill water wells, teach agriculture, etc. They send doctors to these places with donated medication.

You just have no idea what REAL churches do. I'm not talking about Obama's Reverend...
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:52 PM   #4
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http://www.catholiccharities-md.org/...habetical.html

go to that link. place your mouse over the top heading "services"; note the drop down options to research.

have fun.
Here's another...

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf

hover your mouse of "Programs That Help"
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:01 PM   #5
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Here's another...

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf

hover your mouse of "Programs That Help"
Yeah. Programs that help other fundie Christians--or those we hope we can convert. That's not charity, bro. That's an investment.
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Yeah. Programs that help other fundie Christians--or those we hope we can convert. That's not charity, bro. That's an investment.
Since you chose to make those comments in response to the Salvation Army link, are you trying to say those bell ringers at Wal Mart are there only in hopes of converting us all to their religion, so we can go ring bells too?

Sure, most churches hope to convert others, but that should not be presumed to be their only motivation when it comes to charity. If you're going to second guess the Salvation Army, who's slogan is Doing The Most Good, then what are you going to say the United Way's under-handed motive is?
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:12 PM   #7
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Since you chose to make those comments in response to the Salvation Army link, are you trying to say those bell ringers at Wal Mart are there only in hopes of converting us all to their religion, so we can go ring bells too?

Sure, most churches hope to convert others, but that should not be presumed to be their only motivation when it comes to charity. If you're going to second guess the Salvation Army, who's slogan is Doing The Most Good, then what are you going to say the United Way's under-handed motive is?
I used to give those guys some change, but now that I have learned they are a religious organization, they won't be seeing any more money from me. I believe in helping my fellow man, not helping my resident wacko church and its churchgoers.
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So many church "hatas" on the left. Sad really.
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I used to give those guys some change, but now that I have learned they are a religious organization, they won't be seeing any more money from me. I believe in helping my fellow man, not helping my resident wacko church and its churchgoers.
Exactly.

Democrats: Church is shit and only wackos attend church and donate their money there. The money so donated is used to make ministers rich and for backhanded processes like recruiting more wackos.

I wish Obama had explained the Dem position on this so well. see post #19 again
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I used to give those guys some change, but now that I have learned they are a religious organization, they won't be seeing any more money from me. I believe in helping my fellow man, not helping my resident wacko church and its churchgoers.
The United Way a religious organization? Perhaps, I really don't know. I stopped supporting them when they withdrew support to the Boy Scouts. Had nothing to do with religion.

But your comments here are very telling. You don't want to designate churches as charities, because you're anti-church. It really has nothing to do at all with the charitable work they do. If they are religious, f@#$ em.
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Since you chose to make those comments in response to the Salvation Army link, are you trying to say those bell ringers at Wal Mart are there only in hopes of converting us all to their religion, so we can go ring bells too?
why do you refer to the salvation army as a "church"? they don't.
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The Salvation Army is a church. You can study that out for yourself if you really care to.
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Here's another....

http://www.providentliving.org/famil...2873-1,00.html

LDS Family Services has all kinds of stuff listed that they do on behalf of others. This is the church Mitt Romney belongs to....
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