Blasphemy?

[kg_veteran]

We've discussed a lot of different trade scenarios in this section. I thought I'd throw one out there and see what people think...

Nowitzki for Yao Ming and cap filler.

Mavs roster:

Ming - Bradley
Walker - Fortson - Najera
Finley - Jamison
Daniels - Howard
Nash

Rockets roster:

Cato
Nowitzki - Taylor
Jackson - Griffin - Nachbar
Mobley - Piatkowski
Francis

[jayC]

The ultimate mismatch vs. the next dominant big man. I think I'd do it. Give me Yao.

[MikeB]

Yeah..I'd do it.
It would be cool watching Yao jack up 3s.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[Jeremiah]

I'd do it...no, I wouldn't.

Why I'd do it:
Mavs might not get as much out of Yao since he's competing in China a lot over the summer, and I imagine contract negotiations would be difficult, but it would alleviate some of my headache. The headache of course is, though Dirk is quite the mismatch, and quite difficult to guard, as our team is presently composed, he is quite difficult to plug into our roster. If we had a post up 3/slashing 3, and a slashing 2, along with a C that could rebound, defend the post, and provide protection to Dirk, I'd keep dirk, but we don't. (could that be the Pistons minus Rashweed + Dirk?)

Why I wouldn't do it:
I like the Mavs as presently comprised, except for Walk and AJ. I like cheering for the core. Dirk is an exciting player for me to watch. I don't know about Yao in that respect. In short, I like to be comfortable. Yao is not comfortable, Dirk is.

I think both teams come out good in the end. We'd probably get to see Dirk play a lot more defense, and a lot more in the post, though, JVG couldn't be so dumb as to not let him face up, since that is his strength.

[bcrav4]

lol. What's the age difference between Yao and Dirk?

[dalmations202]

I can see Nowitzki trying to get Van Gundy's D, while Yao is trying to learn to shoot the 3 for Nellie.

I would have to think long and hard before moving Nowitzki anywhere. This might be the reason to though.

I probably wouldn't though, just because of the chemistry between Nash and Nowitzki.

[bigox71]

I wouldn't do it if it meant having that lineup.

Ming - Bradley
Walker - Fortson - Najera
Finley - Jamison
Daniels - Howard
Nash

I would not ever want Walker to be a starter on this team again. BUT if you could make a trade with Walker + filler for Elton Brand + filler (Basically exchange Walker for Brand). I would definitely do that. Sign another guard for more outside shooting (maybe Brent Barry), and you have a couple low post forces surrounded by usually very good shooting.

Imagine the Mavs running out this lineup:


Ming - Bradley
Brand - Fortson - Najera
Finley - Jamison
Daniels - Howard
Nash - Barry

I would definitely want to do that.

[sike]

if this went down...(never happen) you would watch Drik become a 28 and 12 guy...and Yao will give you what he can...every other game or so...not going to do this until Yao proves consistant

[Drbio]

I can see Nowitzki trying to get Van Gundy's D, while Yao is trying to learn to shoot the 3 for Nellie.

Great line.





I don't think I could do it. I'd love to have Yao here, but I just couldn't do it.

[Stressboy]

I don't do it.

Yoa is a great guy and he will make the Rockets contenders in the years to come, but he is 1 on 1 guardable and Dirk really is not when used appropriately. Yao has been known to get bothered and thrown off his game by Shawn Bradley and Najera. I think with more players like Ramos and Pavel coming into the league he will have that many more guys that will give him enough problems. He is not the next Shaq because he will never posess Shaqs strength. He is not quick enough to ever be the next Dream. Now 5 years from now, Yao might be the 7-5 version of Duncan, but right now I just don't see it.

I'm probably just being a homer, but really the only guys I would trade Dirk for right now are Garnett and Duncan.

Stressboy

[birdsanctuary]

This is sinful talk. I am covering my ears, err' my eyes at this moment!

[LRB]

Yao would be wasted with Nellie as coach. This would be a disaster of all disaster trades if Nellie wasn't fired 1st. Last think we need is another 7'5"+ player riding the pine.

Now even if Nellie was fired, I still wouldn't do it. I have a suspicison that Yao's wheels won't hold up for many years of heavy minutes and Yao has yet to be as good as Dirk was 4 years ago.

[kg_veteran]

Last think we need is another 7'5"+ player riding the pine.

You honestly think Nellie wouldn't give Yao playing time?

[Dirkenstien]

This would be a tough call but in the end I'd have to do it...with the soon departure of Shaq and considering the fact that Yoa is ..what 21? 22? ..id have to do it. The rockets on the other hand...wouldn't

[LRB]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran

You honestly think Nellie wouldn't give Yao playing time?

KG I honestly think that Nellie would give Yao PT, but not superstar or even All-Star minutes. And I could see Nellie Pulling Yao so Vlade Divac doesn't decimate the mavs. [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img] I just can't see Nellie having patience with Yao for any length of time. Think Raef but bigger and more talented. Still with Nellie asking him to play all kinds of weird lineups, going away from him for long stretches, and other lunatic tactics I can see Yao getting into the doghouse real fast unless he learns to shoot threes like they're going out of style when given half a chance. And if it's a 3 point shooting contest, I want Dirk 10 times out of 10 over Yao.

[EricaLubarsky]

*comicbook guy voice*

worst trade ever.

[PepperTheMavsFan41]

Houston wouldnt do it thou.

[kingrex]

I think on these trade threads it is always worth considering whether or not the franchises would even do the trade. So, in light of that, no way this trade goes down.

Now, having said that, let's set up the scenario that will allow this to occur:
1) Nellie gets fired and Phil Jackson or Pat Riley becomes coach, thus changing the Mav's philosophy to compliment Yao's game.
2) Van Gundy gets fired and Nellie becomes the new coach of the Rockets.

As for me, I would definitely do the trade. I love Dirk and his game, but I would rather build a team around Yao rather than Dirk right now. Now, if Dirk shows an improvement to his defense to compliment his great offense, than I will change my opinion. However, right now, Yao is the better "build-around" player.