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atrewsfan · 04-02-2006, 08:14 PM

Here are the available PF/C FA's:

PF

Rodney Rogers (can shoot the 3), Robert Traylor (ex-Mav draftee), Samaki Walker (ex-Mav), Christian Laettner (ex-Mav), Vin Baker, Sam Clancy, Tom Gugliotta , Marcus Fizer (signed by NO to a ten-day), Jerome Moiso (could block shots but did little else), Clarence Weatherspoon, Cherokee Parks (ex-Mav), Dennis Rodman (woohoo!), Ryan Humphrey, Tony Massenburg, Mark Pope, Kimani Ffriend (who?), Lucas Tischer (qui?)

C

Jahidi White, Ben Handlogten, Andrew DeClercq, Oliver Miller, Wang Zhizhi, Curtis Borchardt, Tyler Coppenrath (who dat?), Amal McCaskill, Chris Marcus, Vladimir Stepania, Nate Huffman, Jayson Williams (have gun will travel), Jared Reiner, Kyle Davis (who u?), Olden Polynice, Peter Cornell (yuh?), Keith Closs (El Skinny), Luke Schenscher, Mamadou N'Diaye, Elden Campbell

* I wonder what sort of shape R. Rogers is in?
* DeClercq was a low-talent nice hustle guy at PF/C.
* Borchardt would give us another body to foul Duncan with.

atrewsfan · 04-02-2006, 08:18 PM

[edit] erased and put in new thread.

snoop · 04-02-2006, 11:10 PM

I like trayor as a banger

Male30Dan · 04-02-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by madape

I predicted in the offseason that Cuban would just let the contracts of Van horn and Terry expire. He's been just as cheap as expected.

Didn't you also predict a losing season for the Mavs? I am not sure, but I know you either thought they would miss the playoffs or be a 7 or 8 seed at best. I guess that goes a long way to show that your predictions don't mean jack!

madape · 04-02-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

Didn't you also predict a losing season for the Mavs? I am not sure, but I know you either thought they would miss the playoffs or be a 7 or 8 seed at best. I guess that goes a long way to show that your predictions don't mean jack!

I think it was 6th seed. So yeah, I guess I was a couple of spots off on that one. But rememner, most people on this board predicted the 1 seed, which would make my prediction more accurate than the majority on this board.

I also predicted that Erick Dampier would be a humliating bust and that Steve Nash would make us pay for not re-signing him... also minority opinions. I'm thinking I'm doing a little better than average, don't you?

Milles · 04-03-2006, 12:23 AM

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Mavs' Van Horn out with broken hand

10:00 PM CDT on Sunday, April 2, 2006

By CALVIN WATKINS / The Dallas Morning News

Keith Van Horn's season is over.

The Mavericks forward has a broken right hand that will force him to miss the remainder of the regular season and probably the playoffs.

Van Horn injured the hand in Friday night's loss to Orlando, and after a review of X-rays over the weekend, it was determined he was gone.

The injury comes at a bad time for Van Horn, who is in the final year of a contract worth $15.69 million this season.

"It's difficult, you know," said Van Horn, who averaged 8.9 points in 53 games this season. "It's been a frustrating last few months. I can hope for the best and hope that I may have a shot at playing in the playoffs. I don't know that for sure, at this point, until the hand specialist looks at me."

There is swelling in the lower part of Van Horn's thumb, and once that subsides, surgery will take place. He was wearing a soft cast at Sunday's game against Denver.

Van Horn's brief career as a Maverick is filled with injuries.

He was acquired in a trade with the Milwaukee Bucks in February 2005. But Van Horn played only three games of last year's playoffs after suffering a severely sprained left ankle in the first round.

Prior to Friday's injury, Van Horn had missed a total of 18 games because of an assortment of injuries.

"It's just unbelievably frustrating," Van Horn said.

Mavs explore free-agent signing: With Van Horn out and with other injuries to key players, Mavericks officials are exploring a free-agent signing. However, the Mavs must receive a league exception to add a 16th player to the roster. President of basketball operations Donnie Nelson said the team applied for one Saturday and should hear something today or Tuesday.

If no exception is granted, the Mavericks won't do anything.

"We're poking," Nelson said. "We're just waiting to hear what the response is going to be. If we're able to create an exception, we'll look to bring in somebody who can do what Keith did for us, which is provide some backup minutes for Dirk [Nowitzki]."

Christian Laettner, who played 53 games for the Mavericks during the 2000-01 season, is one possibility.

"The list is a long one," Nelson said. "Whoever it is has to be someone who is not afraid of the playoff fire."

It won't be Latrell Sprewell.

"No, this is a backup four," Nelson said.

Familiar faces in action: Kenyon Martin, who attended Bryan Adams, finished with just six points in 19 minutes for Denver. There were three other Nuggets with Dallas ties. Greg Buckner, Eduardo Najera and Howard Eisley are former Mavericks. Najera was greeted warmly when he entered the game with 1:46 left in the first quarter.

Briefly: Marquis Daniels missed the game with a strained neck. Daniels said he hopes to play Tuesday against Sacramento. ... Avery Johnson said injured players Adrian Griffin (strained right hamstring) and Devin Harris (strained left quadriceps) are making progress in their rehab.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.6f6d8d0.html

chumdawg · 04-03-2006, 12:33 AM

Bring Slaettner aboard. The dude has icewater in his veins. In fact, I imagine he might make a very good Robert Horry clone come playoff time.

Evilmav2 · 04-03-2006, 01:14 AM

A Christian Laettner signing might be just the kind of mountain-climbing medicine that our Mavs could use, come this May and June...

Milles · 04-03-2006, 01:20 AM

Someone asked about Hoiberg. He tried out with the Suns, then decided not to play this year, he is not ready.

Male30Dan · 04-03-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by madape

I think it was 6th seed. So yeah, I guess I was a couple of spots off on that one. But rememner, most people on this board predicted the 1 seed, which would make my prediction more accurate than the majority on this board.

I also predicted that Erick Dampier would be a humliating bust and that Steve Nash would make us pay for not re-signing him... also minority opinions. I'm thinking I'm doing a little better than average, don't you?

So we are closer to 41 wins than 57 while sitting at 55??? We are much closer to the 1st seed than the 6th seed and without the injuries we have had, (4 or our top 7 out), we WOULD have that number 1. I sure hope you are smarter than just subtracting seeds to make that comment.

Yeah, Dampier has been a pretty big bust but off the bench he has been solid. Another double double tonight I see with multiple blocks. I have pretty much given up on him, but I sure as hell wouldn't call his recent production "humiliating"!

Regarding Nash, yeah, that was a bad move! So you are 1 1/2 out of 3 with one of the 3 being WAY off and one being fairly obvious. I don't think the majority on this board were happy to see Nash leave.

chumdawg · 04-03-2006, 01:32 AM

Nobody likes to talk about Nash around here, that's for sure. But Nash not being here makes the Baby Jesus cry. Oh, what could have been, if not for the carnal sins of the flesh.

mavsfan1000 · 04-03-2006, 05:41 AM

Well I'm also one of the people that think Dallas is better without Van Horn. Josh Powell definitely is a serviceable backup and doesn't try to do too much like Van Horn did. Powell can hit the open jumper and play good defense. Dallas needed a tough 3/4 and Powell fits that mode.

Thespiralgoeson · 04-03-2006, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by madape

ummmm....

you do know that the trade dealine passed over a month ago right?

I thought his contract was up next year. My bad.

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Besides, Mark Cuban has decided to go Donald Sterling on us. In the past, sure, he would have dealt an expiring contract for a borderline superstar with a long term deal . But I think that he's proven over and over again that he's not willing to invest in this team any more. I predicted in the offseason that Cuban would just let the contracts of Van horn and Terry expire. He's been just as cheap as expected.

Mark Cuban used to be a benefit to this franchise. Now he's just like every other owner in the league. Only a hell of a lot more irritating.

Ape, if Cuban had gone "Donald Sterling" on us, then I don't think Van Horn or Terry, or Stackhouse would ever have found their way here in the first place. Let alone the fact that he used the full MLE to re-sign Marquis friggin Daniels.

Edit: Everytime I hear this "Cuban's gone cheap" bullshit I laugh harder. HONESTLY, ape, I mean, HONESTLY.... Do you think Donald Sterling or any "cheap" owner in the NBA would pay Don Nelson 10 mil a year to do absolutely nothing?

kriD · 04-03-2006, 06:02 AM

Hurting Mavs looking for aid from NBA

By ART GARCIA
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

DALLAS -- Shawn Kemp in a Mavericks uniform?

Unlikely, but don't rule it out. The loss of Keith Van Horn for possibly the rest of the season and the playoffs with a broken right hand has the Mavs scrambling for help.

The question becomes how to get that help.

Though the Mavs (55-19) snapped a season-high three-game losing streak with Sunday afternoon's 103-79 rout of Denver at American Airlines Center, injuries have kept the team in limbo.

The Mavs petitioned the league Saturday night for a hardship exception to sign a free agent. According to the rule, at least four players would have to be injured and sidelined at least two weeks.

Devin Harris (quadriceps), Marquis Daniels (neck) and Adrian Griffin (hamstring) are also out. The injuries for each varies, as does the timetable for their returns.

Pavel Podkolzin could also be part of the injured list, though he falls into a gray area. The center is recovering from a stress fracture in his right foot and is essentially on a rehabilitation assignment with the Fort Worth Flyers.

President of basketball operations Donnie Nelson hopes to get a ruling from the league today or Tuesday. Finding a replacement for Van Horn to play behind Dirk Nowitzki is the focus.

The team has checked into Kemp, a former All-Star power forward who retired three years ago because he was overweight. Kemp, 36, has reportedly slimmed down in an attempt to make a comeback and met with coach Avery Johnson recently in Houston.

Kemp's baggage, however, is heavier than he is. He has violated the league's anti-drug policy three times and has had several run-ins with the law.

Other veterans that are possibilities include former Mavs' first-round pick Samaki Walker and George Lynch. Karl Malone is also out there, but isn't considered an option.

The Mavs are definitely looking for a certain kind of player if the waiver is granted.

"It would have to be somebody not afraid to perform in the playoffs," Nelson said.

Players that have been free agents all season or were waived before March 1 are eligible for the playoffs.

Mark Cuban admitted the current state of his team is somewhat disconcerting.

"It's not lucky," he said. "No one wants to lose games, but being healthy is more important. This is uncomfortable. You can go through 100 different scenarios you'd rather be in, but it is what it is."

Releasing a player to sign another isn't an alternative the Mavs are currently considering. Johnson is using every healthy body in his rotation, including rookies Rawle Marshall and Josh Powell, and center DJ Mbenga.

Van Horn hopes to return in the playoffs, which begin April 22. He's meeting with a hand specialist today, and there will be no word on his return until he has surgery.

Van Horn suffered the break at the base of his right thumb in Friday's loss at Orlando.

Van Horn's career with the Mavs has frequently been sidetracked by injuries. He missed most of the playoffs last year with an ankle sprain and had already been out 20 games this season with various injuries, most recently a strained knee that knocked him out 11 games.

A free-agent-to-be after the season, Van Horn feels snakebit.

"Other than the beginning of this year, I felt like I've never been able to hit a stride because I twisted my ankle, then I did my knee and now this," he said. "It's just unbelievably frustrating. Sometimes you don't understand why things happen."

TheBlueVan · 04-03-2006, 07:09 AM

how sweet would karl malone be? if he's in any kind of shape he would definitely be a big upgrade

endtroducing MASKED · 04-03-2006, 08:37 AM

Kyle Davis is a C from Auburn with no offensive game. he was a great shotblocker and is extremely athletic (a former sprinter). to put into perspective how bad his offensive game is...he makes Diop look like David Robinson.

sixeightmkw · 04-03-2006, 08:38 AM

What about Kemp? I don't know how efficient he would be though. Walker might be a good pickup though.

madape · 04-03-2006, 09:16 AM

Shawn Kemp? You've got to be freaking kidding me! Wow.

MavsFanFinley · 04-03-2006, 09:42 AM

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The Mavs petitioned the league Saturday night for a hardship exception to sign a free agent. According to the rule, at least four players would have to be injured and sidelined at least two weeks.

Devin Harris (quadriceps), Marquis Daniels (neck) and Adrian Griffin (hamstring) are also out. The injuries for each varies, as does the timetable for their returns.

I'm confused. Harris and Griffin are expected back this week right? Maybe they can use the fact that they've been out the previous two though? Pavel shouldn't count as he is playing right now. We know KVH is out 2 weeks (at least). Even if it's the same with Daniels (but it was my understanding he was just day-to-day) we'll still have Harris and Griffin back within the week?

What happens then? Do they still get to keep the 16 players or would someone have to be waived once we get 2-3 of those guys back?

Drbio · 04-03-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlueVan

how sweet would karl malone be? if he's in any kind of shape he would definitely be a big upgrade

That guy will be a hulk and in good shape until the day he dies. He is the only one I would consider to be an upgrade. Kemp doesn't really excite me. As a matter of fact I would rather have Laettner or even Tarpley.

TheBlueVan · 04-03-2006, 11:40 AM

i see laettner and malone as the only two options

laettner-steve kerr, spot-up shooter

malone-retro beast comes out of retirement to play 15-20 minutes a game

that would be awesome! just think if we had a big line-up out there w/ damp, dirk, and malone.

i also think kemp wouldnt do that much, unless he's had a miraculous 180 from where he was, same with vin baker. i think they were pretty much products of the mid-90s style of play in the nba, and would be useless in an up-tempo game

antoine rigadeu anyone? (joke)

Tokey41 · 04-03-2006, 12:32 PM

Well that said... get Evans?

EricaLubarsky · 04-03-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by madape

I think it was 6th seed. So yeah, I guess I was a couple of spots off on that one. But rememner, most people on this board predicted the 1 seed, which would make my prediction more accurate than the majority on this board.

If you are talking by seed number, then the difference between 4 and 1 is larger than 4 and 6, but by wins and losses you are a lot farther off. We've won 15 more games than the 6th seed and have won only 2 fewer than the 1st seed.

MFFL · 04-03-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

I'm confused. Harris and Griffin are expected back this week right? Maybe they can use the fact that they've been out the previous two though? Pavel shouldn't count as he is playing right now. We know KVH is out 2 weeks (at least). Even if it's the same with Daniels (but it was my understanding he was just day-to-day) we'll still have Harris and Griffin back within the week?

What happens then? Do they still get to keep the 16 players or would someone have to be waived once we get 2-3 of those guys back?

I was thinking that we would waive KVH but now I'm leaning against that thought. The Mavs >might< want to keep the option of a sign-and-trade available.

capitalcity · 04-03-2006, 02:01 PM

Laettner is intriguing.

Dude hit 58% FG and 82% on FT last year.

Dtownsfinest · 04-03-2006, 04:22 PM

Mavs don't need anymore soft jumpshooting power fowards. They need a bruiser. A banger. A Reggie Evans type or a PJ Brown type. Someone who can set the tone in the paint since our big men really don't do much of that.