03-23-2012, 12:52 PM
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We all saw how key knockdown 3 point shooters were last year. This could be a momentum pickup.
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True, especially with how bad we've been shooting the three this season - Dirk (37%), Terry (38%), Carter (38%), Kidd (33%), West (33%) and Roddy (30%) are the only guys who can even hit baskets from beyond the arc, and all of those guys have bigger responsibilities on offense (except maybe Terry).
It'll be nice to have at least one guy on the floor who can hit threes at a 40% clip...
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03-23-2012, 01:03 PM
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If he's healthy, I'm interested to see how the numbers could possibly translate for him, especially based on where he got the numbers.
He was considered a nice defensive weapon, but that's a weapon on the Golden State Warriors, a team that really didn't care about D. So, I'm interested to see how it translates on a team that strictly keeps people accountable on that end of the floor.
The numbers on offense look good, but again that's on a system that wanted to run and the numbers could be inflated. He just needs to be healthy and fit in. He's going to be able to get shots if he's on the floor, just has to make the most of them.
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03-23-2012, 01:23 PM
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30% is still a pretty solid number and matches up with 45% 2pt shooting so I'd take it.
But yeah, any time you can get a sharpshooter, its a win.
I'd love to have a guy with legitimate size defending the 2/3 who can hang out in the corners for the D-Will pass.
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03-23-2012, 01:27 PM
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Don't know if it was mentioned, but Azubuike's injury was pretty much the same one Caron had that ended his season last year.
Mavs have a great medical staff, so having a general idea of what to look for when it comes to that, with a real example of last year, should go a long way in helping them.
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03-23-2012, 01:29 PM
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A sharpshooter+Dirk=damage.
Dirk on the floor is better for individual shooting % than any system.
If healthy... he can be instantly better than Jet and Roddy. A 6'5 SG makes me more giddy than a 6'5 SF. IMO Marion+Carter are OK at SF.
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03-23-2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
If he's healthy, I'm interested to see how the numbers could possibly translate for him, especially based on where he got the numbers.
He was considered a nice defensive weapon, but that's a weapon on the Golden State Warriors, a team that really didn't care about D. So, I'm interested to see how it translates on a team that strictly keeps people accountable on that end of the floor.
The numbers on offense look good, but again that's on a system that wanted to run and the numbers could be inflated. He just needs to be healthy and fit in. He's going to be able to get shots if he's on the floor, just has to make the most of them.
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The guy has only played a few years in the league, so I don't know if the numbers are indicative of anything at this point... But his raw potential certainly passes the eyeball test.
Plus, if his offensive numbers might be inflated in Nellie's system, then his defensive numbers would be equally deflated - he had a reputation as a solid defender at Kentucky...
It'll be interesting to see what we have in this kid - kinda like a Corey Brewer 2.0.
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03-23-2012, 01:34 PM
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BTW this season has been rough for 3pt shooting. Only 29 players with minimum minutes played are even averaging that number-- fewer than one per team on average.
3 are in GSW
3 are on CHI
3 are on SAS
2 are on MIA
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03-23-2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Don't know if it was mentioned, but Azubuike's injury was pretty much the same one Caron had that ended his season last year.
Mavs have a great medical staff, so having a general idea of what to look for when it comes to that, with a real example of last year, should go a long way in helping them.
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Also, the main reason he missed so much time with that injury is because of a botched surgery. At least it wasn't a re-injury like Roddy...
Hopefully he's totally recovered and ready to go.
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03-23-2012, 01:45 PM
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The guy has only played a few years in the league, so I don't know if the numbers are indicative of anything at this point... But his raw potential certainly passes the eyeball test.
Plus, if his offensive numbers might be inflated in Nellie's system, then his defensive numbers would be equally deflated - he had a reputation as a solid defender at Kentucky...
It'll be interesting to see what we have in this kid - kinda like a Corey Brewer 2.0.
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Based on the team's recent track record with vet-min guys, I definitely give the front office a massive amount of praise. Good to see they covered their bases with next year.
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03-23-2012, 01:53 PM
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I'm fine with the signing. Azubuike is/was a good athlete (definitely more of a SF), and he could have as much of an impact as Corey Brewer did.
That said, I would have loved to see them sign Killer Van Horn to come in and be the backup PF.
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03-23-2012, 02:06 PM
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I'm fine with the signing. Azubuike is/was a good athlete (definitely more of a SF), and he could have as much of an impact as Corey Brewer did.
That said, I would have loved to see them sign Killer Van Horn to come in and be the backup PF.
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03-23-2012, 02:25 PM
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As always, I blame Devean George.
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03-23-2012, 02:32 PM
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being sarcastic but then again, i dont expect JET back next year unless he's willing to take an offer thats not outrageous!!
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03-23-2012, 02:34 PM
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As always, I blame Devean George.
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I blame Antoine Walker.
Or the skinnier version we currently have on the roster.
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03-23-2012, 03:27 PM
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I blame Antoine Walker.
Or the skinnier version we currently have on the roster.
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I blame Odom.... oh yeah; I said it
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03-23-2012, 03:34 PM
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being sarcastic but then again, i dont expect JET back next year unless he's willing to take an offer thats not outrageous!!
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that if we are relying on Azuibuke to replace Jet in any significant manner, we're f'd
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03-23-2012, 03:37 PM
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I would imagine Roddy would be the one to eventually replace JET.
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03-23-2012, 03:44 PM
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This pickup confuses me a little but worth giving him a chance. I trust Cuban and Nelsons decisions most of the time. Plus i'll never forget Azubuikes monster block his rookie or sophmore year.
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03-23-2012, 03:51 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that if we are relying on Azuibuke to replace Jet in any significant manner, we're f'd
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dont understand how. if he can contribute like he did before his injury this would be a steal. less expensive, younger, more athletic, better defender, i dont see how we would be F'd if this works out?
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03-23-2012, 03:56 PM
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I definitely think this might be a message to Jet and to the fans in a way, Terry has been playing terribly and he already discussed his bad feelings for some things that were going on so maybe theres actually a lot more going on in the locker room with him right now.
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03-23-2012, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9
Don't know if it was mentioned, but Azubuike's injury was pretty much the same one Caron had that ended his season last year.
Mavs have a great medical staff, so having a general idea of what to look for when it comes to that, with a real example of last year, should go a long way in helping them.
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Yea, I read on his wiki, I think that the first surgery was not done right, and they had to do it again, thus he's had nearly 2 full seasons off.
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03-23-2012, 04:11 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that if we are relying on Azuibuke to replace Jet in any significant manner, we're f'd
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No way, Cuban and Nelson have always been opportunists and looking to mine a diamond. Don't see anything different with this contract. He shows enough that he can play an NBA schedule, we'll pick up his vet minimum option. A combo of DWill, Roddy are probably going to take split Kidd-Jets production. It's on par with what they're doing with Brandon Wright, team option for a 2nd year, that looks like it'll most likely be picked up given his showing.
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03-23-2012, 04:26 PM
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No way, Cuban and Nelson have always been opportunists and looking to mine a diamond. Don't see anything different with this contract. He shows enough that he can play an NBA schedule, we'll pick up his vet minimum option. A combo of DWill, Roddy are probably going to take split Kidd-Jets production. It's on par with what they're doing with Brandon Wright, team option for a 2nd year, that looks like it'll most likely be picked up given his showing.
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03-24-2012, 01:12 PM
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Dude hasn't played an NBA game in 2.5 years, so I think it's a real stretch to think he will have any ability to contribute anything meaningful this season.
Good option for next yr though
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03-24-2012, 01:21 PM
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It all depends on how he plays in D-League, but I do not expect him to contribute this year.
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03-24-2012, 01:33 PM
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I've always been a fan of his game, good shooter and great defender. Looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the organization and hoping he can manage to get back in shape and stay healthy.
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03-24-2012, 02:08 PM
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I'm not sure why people are talking about this guy replacing Jet, they are completley different players. He will probably take Odom's minutes imo as it gives us another SF.
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03-24-2012, 10:28 PM
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Azubuike played for the Texas Legends today and was obviously a bit rusty.
11 min: 2/5, 1/1 (3pt), 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist... 4 PF, 3 TO
The fact he's on the court though is a positive. This could potentially be a very crafty deal for the Mavs. I hope he's able to play this season, we could really use a guy with his abilities.
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03-24-2012, 10:32 PM
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Azubuike played for the Texas Legends today and was obviously a bit rusty.
11 min: 2/5, 1/1 (3pt), 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist... 4 PF, 3 TO
The fact he's on the court though is a positive. This could potentially be a very crafty deal for the Mavs. I hope he's able to play this season, we could really use a guy with his abilities.
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I think it will be complicated for him to be in the 13-player roster for the Playoffs this season.
If he plays only 11 minutes, it certainly means that he is far away from being in good shape for NBA. And the regular season ends in only one month.
But I hope I'm wrong because his shoot from long range can be more useful than Jones or Yi (or Odom current level).
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03-25-2012, 07:12 PM
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Good to see him back in the NBA. Unlike most players, he actually stayed in college for three years and is a well-oiled and developed basketball player. He performed really well in the time when he was with the Warriors.
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04-09-2012, 01:37 PM
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So since he has been recalled from D-League, when can we expect him to play? Tomorrow maybe? Anyone know how well he's been playing?
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04-09-2012, 01:43 PM
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04-09-2012, 02:11 PM
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So since he has been recalled from D-League, when can we expect him to play? Tomorrow maybe? Anyone know how well he's been playing?
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7 games 13 minutes a night 6.4 points per game. A good preseason run of 7 games. 5-10 minutes in the backcourt, moving VC to the backup 3 spot, and Marion to the backup 4 spot.
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04-09-2012, 02:34 PM
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7 games 13 minutes a night 6.4 points per game. A good preseason run of 7 games. 5-10 minutes in the backcourt, moving VC to the backup 3 spot, and Marion to the backup 4 spot.
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He's not doing terribly at all in the d-league. The only thing that concerns me is his mpg has been low and I wonder if its controlled for conditioning.
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8.5ppg and 4.0rpg on 54%/50% is pretty darn efficient. His TOs are high but that is always a danger with anarchy ball in the D-league. If he can learn to play defensively and move without the ball around the perimeter to keep spacing, he'll be an asset.
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04-09-2012, 03:27 PM
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He's not doing terribly at all in the d-league. The only thing that concerns me is his mpg has been low and I wonder if its controlled for conditioning.
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8.5ppg and 4.0rpg on 54%/50% is pretty darn efficient. His TOs are high but that is always a danger with anarchy ball in the D-league. If he can learn to play defensively and move without the ball around the perimeter to keep spacing, he'll be an asset.
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That's probably the thing, he hasn't played in what 2 years. Don't want to over stress the knee in game situations, he maybe working on his conditioning outside of game situations which is easier to control.
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04-09-2012, 03:29 PM
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He just has 9 games to get the Team known and all, hmm... Still a no-brainer to get him out there!
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04-09-2012, 03:50 PM
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Really liked this guy since his GS days. i hope he can come in and give us solid play at SG with the minutes he gets, I think VC gets the SF minutes...and Let Marion have the PF.
Soo glad LO is gone.....GOOO MAVS.....get the run started.
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04-09-2012, 04:09 PM
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Any chance Azubuike gets some backup SF minutes? This would let Marion move over to the backup 4 without really playing more minutes.
Something like this
SF: Marion 24/VC 14/ Azubieke 10
PF: Dirk 38/Marion 10
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04-09-2012, 04:12 PM
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He just has 9 games to get the Team known and all, hmm... Still a no-brainer to get him out there!
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That comment was a no brainer, I still don't get why I'm supposedly the dumb one
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