09-24-2005, 11:52 AM
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Playoff Seeding Guess
East
Indiana- they're in the toughest division in the league, but they will come out, their players wont be in jail
Miami- who's going to challenge them?
New Jersey- ........duh?
Detroit- theyll have a good record, but the pacers are just too good
Cleveland- theyll be good allright, but post D is a concern, along with injuries,
Chicago- Can they keep curry? if so, theyre young, talented, and have depth, big ??? over currys heart
Boston- stacked with talent at 2/3, but they need a point guard/ center
Washington- lost talent, but still god enough to barely make playoffs
West
San Antonio- if TD can stay healthy, noone else in the southwest has a chance
Denver- they get the nod over phoenix for the number 2 seed because im not sure if phoenix can "jell,"
Phoenix- its time for the injury bug to hit the suns, theyve gotten older/ slower, but also better rebounding/ D....bell, and jim jackson both missed around 20 games last year, nash missed a couple, and kurt thomas logged in 36 minutes a game for 80 games last year, in other words, someone is bound to get injured (no im not saying it in a hopeful way, i would never wish for someone to get injured)
Dallas- should have home court advantage thanks to good record, should have second best record in west, but again san antonion rules
Houston- who's ready to kick their butts again? i know i am
Golden State- younger version of last years suns, but with better depth, and chris taft, ike diougu, and troy murphy instead of amare- big difference (in amares favor)
Sacramento- same 'ol same 'ol, all offense no defense, theyre going to suffer as a result
LA Lakers- kobe is motivated, kwame brown is motivated, and the zen master is back.....theyll give San Antonio a run for their money in the first round, and if bynum pans out they could move up
question? comments? swear words? lol
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09-24-2005, 12:07 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
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09-24-2005, 12:10 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
??? am i that off?
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09-24-2005, 12:15 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
no i think your rankings are pretty reasonable
who is the 8th team in the east
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09-24-2005, 12:37 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
Goldenstate wont make the playoffs; Phoenix will finish ahead of Denver.
Lakers will make the playoffs because Kobe is motivated? Was Kobe not motivated last year after what happened? What should motivate him more this year? Lakers wont make it.
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09-24-2005, 12:41 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
well the lakers are much-improved, they now have front court depth, and the zen master is back, and for denver ahead of phoenix, like i said i dont think that phoenix will do too well without as many three point shooters/ runners
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09-24-2005, 12:41 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
is there anyone else who will beat out golden state for a playoff berth? they were the only team to beat phoenix twice after the all star break, and after they traded for baron davis, they just dominated games, plus theyre young, davis should get better with more time do develop chemistry, and j-rich isnt getting worse, i just dont see hoe they dont make the playoffs
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09-24-2005, 02:25 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
1) Phoenix
2) Dallas
3) Denver
4) San Antonio
5) Houston
6) Sacramento
7) Minnesota
8) LAL
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09-24-2005, 02:44 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
1) San Antonio Spurs
2) Dallas Mavericks
3) Houston Rockets
4) Denver Nuggets
5) Sacramento Kings
6) Phoenix Suns
7) LA Lakers
8) Golden State Warriors
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09-24-2005, 02:45 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
1) San Antonio Spurs
2) Dallas Mavericks
3) Houston Rockets
4) Denver Nuggets
5) Sacramento Kings
6) Phoenix Suns
7) LA Lakers
8) Golden State Warriors
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09-24-2005, 02:49 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
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1) Phoenix
2) Dallas
3) Denver
4) San Antonio
5) Houston
6) Sacramento
7) Minnesota
8) LAL
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And you called me a homer?
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09-24-2005, 02:50 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
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1) San Antonio Spurs
2) Dallas Mavericks
3) Houston Rockets
4) Denver Nuggets
5) Sacramento Kings
6) Phoenix Suns
7) LA Lakers
8) Golden State Warriors
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Playoff seeding is division winners first, then 4-8 is based on record, the Spurs, the Rockets, and the Mavs are all in the Southwest Division.
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09-24-2005, 02:50 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
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1) San Antonio Spurs
2) Dallas Mavericks
3) Houston Rockets
4) Denver Nuggets
5) Sacramento Kings
6) Phoenix Suns
7) LA Lakers
8) Golden State Warriors
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Playoff seeding is division winners first, then 4-8 is based on record, the Spurs, the Rockets, and the Mavs are all in the Southwest Division.
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09-24-2005, 02:57 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
i think they know this, they are just ranking them by overall records..
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09-24-2005, 08:04 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
Geez mavfan2390, think you could make that signature a little bit smaller. It takes about a month to scroll through. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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09-24-2005, 08:29 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
sure thing, my bad, (but only because you have like five million posts) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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09-24-2005, 08:59 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
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Originally posted by: mavfan2390
sure thing, my bad, (but only because you have like five million posts) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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Speaking of posts...for some reason you only show 1!! You are getting ripped off!! [img]i/expressions/wine.gif[/img]
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09-24-2005, 09:36 PM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
man i know, but at least noone can say im posting just to up my post count
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09-25-2005, 12:43 AM
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RE:Playoff Seeding Guess
I don't think that Sacramento will see any playoff time.
They have Abdur-Rahim.[img]i/expressions/anim_laugh.gif[/img]
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09-25-2005, 01:30 AM
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Even if they do, they won't do anything.
They have Peja Stojakovic [img]i/expressions/anim_laugh.gif[/img]
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09-25-2005, 10:18 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
Somebody rationalize to me how Phoenix can be up in the western top 2. Is that based on last year or is it a projection of this year's success. Cause if it is a projection I don't see how that team adds soft eastern power forward/center in Kurt Thomas from a team with an inclination to losing and loses Joe Johnson and replaces him with Boris Diaw, who by the way made the stupidest foul in possibly the history of basketball yesterday versus Greece to most likely lose the France the European Basketball Championship.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see Amare more effective against 4's than 5's in the West. The west is loaded with quality 4's yet vacant of quality centers. Amare's success in the West I believe was due a great deal to his ability to use his speed to blow by centers in the west. I just don't see Phoenix improving with the off season moves.... Grant? Back up at best, Joe J gone replaced by Diaw or Raja Bell? no improvement there, Kurt Thomas? pleeeeze!
(Still, there is no way any other team in the Pacific is better, thank you Ericka, maybe hell will freeze over and the Clips with the Cassell/Stevinson/ Mobley backcourt comes out of nowhere to take the division.....who am I foolin' Phoenix wins the Pacific.) Sorry, Jackass comment re: Phoenix in the top 3, they will easily get a top 3 seed.)
1) Denver (can't look too much like a homer?) Still, Denver must be recognized, for they have maintained their pieces.
2) Dallas (improved all areas of weakness, save for a back up 3, but KVH can swing down if needed or Stack swing up)
3) *Phoenix (at the 4 amare is less effective in the west and the loss of JoeJ is huge, not to mention Qrich, who stank less than Raja)
4)*San Antonio (no improvement, and NVE, and Fin will be disgruntled with available minutes on a overly deep team)
5) Houston (swift is a slight improvement)
6) Minnesota (look for this organization to rebound)
7) Sacramento (not much here, still with Bibby around they are formitable)
8) Lakers (phil's back, and look for Kwame to improve)
*Thank you Erica
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09-25-2005, 11:00 PM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
problem with that is that the 1,2 and 3 spots are all locked, so there is no way San Antonio and Dallas can be top 3.
Phoenix will be top 3 because they are only competing with the Kings, Warriors and Lakers. If they are ahead of those 3, then they will be a lock for the top 3.
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09-26-2005, 12:21 AM
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only two scenarios I would be happy with..
Dallas Mavericks win the division and finish in the top 3.
Dallas Mavericks finish 4th with Houston winning the division.
I guess what I'm trying to say is as long as San Antonio doesn't have homecourt =P
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09-26-2005, 01:17 AM
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RE: Playoff Seeding Guess
I don't know why a lot of people are ignoring the Phoenix acquisition of Jones. That was a significant acquisition.
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09-26-2005, 01:26 AM
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Even if you consider Jones...
Joe Johnson
Steven Hunter
Quentin Richardson
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James Jones
Kurt Thomas
Brian Grant
Raja Bell
it's not even close.
in fact, they may not have even really improved defensively, let alone what they sacrificed offensively...
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12-07-2005, 09:02 PM
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I couldn't find another seedings post so I found this one. How pathetic is it that in the east Philedelphia is seeded 2nd!!!!! in the conference with an 8-10 record.
I mean really. So in the Midwest AND in the Central the top three teams will be 1, 4 and 5 so the XCF will be over by the second round. How stupid can the NBA get.
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12-07-2005, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirkfanatic
1) San Antonio Spurs
2) Dallas Mavericks
3) Houston Rockets
4) Denver Nuggets
5) Sacramento Kings
6) Phoenix Suns
7) LA Lakers
8) Golden State Warriors
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1)Dallas Mavericks
2)Phoenix Suns
3)San Antonio Spurs
4)Houston Rockets
5)Memphis Grizzlies
6)Denver Nuggets
7)LA Clippers
8)Golden State Warriors
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12-08-2005, 12:03 AM
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EAST: Pacers are not better thn the Pistons. I just dont see how.
Miami is like Dallas 2 years ago when we had walker..too much talent just wont work.
So i think Detroit comes out of the east.
WEST:Spurs will be on the WCF.
I truly believe tht we will have the best Record in the West this year.
2 other teams tht could pose a problem...
1.Suns..only of Amare is bak at 100%.
2. Grizz..This is their year to get out of 1st round.
But i think we play the Spurs in WCF and beat thm...and thn we go on to play Detroit.
I think if Spurs beat us they lose to Detroit..I think we are the perfect team to beat Detroit.
So I think we go all the way this Year. If every1 ishealthy in the Playoffs.
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12-08-2005, 10:29 AM
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I couldn't find another seedings post so I found this one. How pathetic is it that in the east Philedelphia is seeded 2nd!!!!! in the conference with an 8-10 record.
I mean really. So in the Midwest AND in the Central the top three teams will be 1, 4 and 5 so the XCF will be over by the second round. How stupid can the NBA get.
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Surely the NBA sees this. What purpose do the divisions serve? They are stupid if the divisions aren't scrapped next season. It would be great if every team was jockying for playoff position based on conference only. Playoff seeding would come down to the last day.
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12-08-2005, 10:33 AM
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I don't have an issue with the winners of the divisions are guaranteed playoff spots but the seeding is asinine. Just completely asinine.
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Any system that gives an advantage to the 6th seed over the 5th seed is pretty screwed up (i.e. playing the weaker 3rd seeded divisional winner).
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12-08-2005, 11:09 AM
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Why even have divisions? I don't get it. And, I agree, the system they have now is dumber than dumb. As it is now the Mavs have nothing to play for but the 4th seed. Unless SA comes back down to Earth.
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12-08-2005, 12:12 PM
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The mavs should lose games on purpose to get the 6th/7th seeds. Why not game the playoff seedings since they are so ridiculously bogus to begin with.
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12-08-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bookit
Why even have divisions? I don't get it. And, I agree, the system they have now is dumber than dumb. As it is now the Mavs have nothing to play for but the 4th seed. Unless SA comes back down to Earth.
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If the Mavs took the fourth seed and the Spurs took the top seed, and the Mavs beat the Spurs in the second round, there would still be the issue of HCA in the conference finals.
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12-08-2005, 12:43 PM
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They would get HCA in the conference finals if they had the best record.
It's almost as if the league is saying that seeding really isn't that important, that HCA is more important. Silly.
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12-08-2005, 08:45 PM
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1) Dallas Mavericks - The frightening depth of this year's squad keeps us afloat through an injury plagued beginning of the season, and then helps to fuel a truly remarkable 32-5 year end run...
2) San Antonio Spurs - As always, injuries will take a toll on San Antonio over the course of the season, but this year old warhorses Fin and Nick will do much to help SA weather the storm.
3) Phoenix Suns - The great play of reigning MVP Nash and bizarre continued development of PG-SF-C Boris Diaw Rifford keep the Suns winning at an impressive clip early in the season, and then a mildly hobbled Amare returns, Z-Bo-like, as a semi-successful returned microfracture victim, thus helping DanToni and company finish as a strong #3 seed.
4) Denver Nuggets - Camby's incredible early season play has gotten a heckuva lot of press thus far in the young 05-06 season, but it looks to me like the real story with these Nugs is that Karl's offensive system appears to have really taken hold and blossomed with this team, as evidenced by Andre Miller's reemergence as an assist machine, and they only look to get better as the season progresses.
5) LA Clippers - Nothing is going to stop this year's hapless but hungry Clipps from getting their seat at the '06 playoff dinner table (at least short of Elton Brand's hamstring snapping).
6) Memphis - This is Cleveland-era Mike Fratello redux. The Grizz are going to finish strong in a weakened Western conference; scraping into the playoffs by winning games with the discipine and tough play of a gang of solid, no-name vets, but they are destined to get run out of the first round on a rail.
7) Houston Rockets - The combination of Rik Smits-reborn and TMac's aching back is always good for a first round playoff appearance (and prompt exit)...
8) Minnesota Timberwolves - The surprising emergence of Dwayne Jones and Marko Jaric as the complimentary scorers that KG has always pined for will be just enough to allow the Big (first round) Ticket to triumphantly reclaim his old, familiar #8 seed spot in the playoffs.
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12-08-2005, 09:24 PM
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Sweet writeup.
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12-08-2005, 11:06 PM
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Most of you completely forgot about the Clippers.
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