06-28-2015, 11:24 PM
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/holds breath until Wednesday
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06-28-2015, 11:59 PM
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TMac tweeted:
Spotted hanging out with Chandler Parsons and DeAndre Jordan in LA this week: free agent SG Wesley Matthews.
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06-29-2015, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbard
TMac tweeted:
Spotted hanging out with Chandler Parsons and DeAndre Jordan in LA this week: free agent SG Wesley Matthews.
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Heck yes. Press the flesh & Kiss the Babies, CP!
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06-29-2015, 09:48 AM
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Your 2016 executive of the year: Chandler Parsons.
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06-29-2015, 11:11 AM
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In the unlikely event that DeAndre Jordan leaves the Clippers, then it's a near-certainty that Tyson will step in as his replacement.
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Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
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06-29-2015, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
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There are scenarios where SnT could make sense I believe.
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06-29-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g
There are scenarios where SnT could make sense I believe.
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S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE
The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...
Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening
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06-29-2015, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...
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I agree with this - the Mavs won't just gift the Clippers TY out of the goodness in their hearts. However, in the event that Jordan picks Dallas, I think TY represents the only plausible way the Clippers don't fall off, so I feel like they'll be motivated to make it worthwhile for everyone.
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06-29-2015, 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE
The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...
Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening
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@SteveKylerNBA
(Basketball Insiders)
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If DeAndre Jordan does choose Dallas, Mavericks willing to sign and trade Chandler to make it work.
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Because Dallas has a lot of respect for Tyson and would help him out, if they can get Jordan
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Take it for what it's worth, but I just don't see the Mavs turning down TC if that is where he wants to be.
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06-29-2015, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
@SteveKylerNBA
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Take it for what it's worth, but I just don't see the Mavs turning down TC if that is where he wants to be.
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I dont like it because its an playoff opponent. Getting eliminated by the Clippers with Tyson would make them look pretty stupid.
Its not for the respect for Tyson, i think they made an agreement with Tyson. Tyson doesnt search other teams (Lakers) or signs somewhere else before Jordans decision. If Jordan comes, they do the S&T...if Jordan stays they re-sign Chandler.
win-win. Tyson knows he will play for Clippers or Mavs on a nice contract and Mavs dont have to fear to lose Jordan AND Tyson.
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06-29-2015, 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE
The only way we are doing this is when the Clippers find a way (TE, another three-team trade) to take Felton too. Or give us Redick for Felton...
Just as a favor for Tyson alone? Not happening
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Saw Fish still tweeting about the possibility of Tyson + Felton package in a S&T. Does he know something we don't, or the other way around...?
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06-29-2015, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
S&T is just straight up DJ-Tyson possible. You cant pack Tyson and Felton together in this S&T. The Clippers also dont have a TE
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Thought you might be interested to know this isn't true. Tonight, I've had it confirmed by both David Lord and Larry Coon that combining players in a S&T is legal. Any info to the contrary is popular myth.
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06-30-2015, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hayth.james.g
There are scenarios where SnT could make sense I believe.
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clips sign jordan to max money and trade him to mavs. jordan gets his money and clips get chandler.
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06-30-2015, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DGM
clips sign jordan to max money and trade him to mavs. jordan gets his money and clips get chandler.
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Except doesnt he want a 4 year deal?
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06-30-2015, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Windmill360
Except doesnt he want a 4 year deal?
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This is true. So he can maximize the whole tv deal money
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06-29-2015, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Funny to see that pretty much every Clippers fan expect that the worst case is a S&T with Chandler ignoring the fact that the Mavs have nothing to gain from it except doing Tyson a favor but helping a potential playoff opponent...
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I wouldn't say that at all. The Mavs are obviously DESPERATE to rid themselves of the Raymond Felton money, and offering TY to LAC might be the best way to do that.
According to DLord, there are other ways in which a SNT scenario could benefit the Mavs financially, too, even with an under the cap approach, which seems to be the most likely, imo.
If Jordan picks Dallas, I think a TY/Felton SNT is pretty likely.
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06-29-2015, 01:24 PM
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MONDAY, 1:15pm: The Clippers have a slight edge, a league source tells Ken Berger of CBSSports.com (Twitter link), which runs counter to what Amick said the Clippers believe.
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06-29-2015, 01:35 PM
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@ArashMarkazi: Clippers always felt it would come down to them and the Mavs for DeAndre Jordan. They're still cautiously optimistic that he will re-sign.
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06-29-2015, 02:00 PM
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Man I bet if Aldridge just decides to team up in Dallas. Jordan is a lock.
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06-29-2015, 02:35 PM
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@latbbolch: League source says it's likely that LaMarcus Aldridge is domino that falls first before DeAndre Jordan, who will decide between Clips/Mavs.
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These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when
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06-29-2015, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@latbbolch: League source says it's likely that LaMarcus Aldridge is domino that falls first before DeAndre Jordan, who will decide between Clips/Mavs.
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Prepare the Rick Astley videos NOW before it all goes down! Or it'll be too late...
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06-29-2015, 02:38 PM
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But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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06-29-2015, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erdubya
But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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We only have 5 out of 15 roster spots filled... Maybe wait until we have more before you ask the question?
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06-30-2015, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
We only have 5 out of 15 roster spots filled... Maybe wait until we have more before you ask the question?
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And my second question?
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06-29-2015, 04:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erdubya
But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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Im pretty sure this little dude with the hot wife is back via mMLE.
Pick&Pop with Dirk and then driving to the lane with Jordan waiting for the lob..sounds tasty.
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06-30-2015, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erdubya
But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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1) anyone can. He's one of the most versatile finishers of the dump-down in the league
2) no, but see #1
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06-30-2015, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by erdubya
But err... who on the mavs roster is adept at throwing Jordan alley-oops a-la cp3? Or can he really be effective on offense without it?
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He's a terrific cutter.
The Mavs threw plenty of alley oops last year (a lot to wright/chandler), especially before Rondo came on board, Harris is especially good at it.
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06-29-2015, 06:11 PM
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Sign and trade Tyson for a PG. I see Eric Bledsoe out there being shopped. He would be a solid scoring PG we can have.
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06-29-2015, 09:45 PM
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06-29-2015, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sefant77
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lolz...thanks! What an idiot moment!
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06-29-2015, 09:56 PM
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I wonder if being able to practice with Holger plays into our chances of landing Jordan? I know I'd certainly want him to if we signed him...
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06-29-2015, 10:19 PM
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Well, he got mixed up with shot clock and game clock...happens.
Its not as embarassing as every single heliflopter..
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06-29-2015, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Well, he got mixed up with shot clock and game clock...happens.
Its not as embarassing as every single heliflopter..
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Ok, for just a second, assume that I'm dumb and don't know what a "heliflopter" is...
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06-29-2015, 10:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerLeft
Ok, for just a second, assume that I'm dumb and don't know what a "heliflopter" is...
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If you need more examples just go to youtube and type "James Harden" and you should see plenty.
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In sports this is the act of waving your arms wildly whilst falling to create the illusion of a collision more intense than reality. This act is done to induce a foul call or infraction by the referee on the opposing team's player.
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06-29-2015, 10:46 PM
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Ha...thanks. I'm familiar with the act - now I know the name.
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06-29-2015, 11:04 PM
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06-29-2015, 11:30 PM
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Yeah i saw and was going to check it but had no time.
Could you post also the part of the cba?
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06-29-2015, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Yeah i saw and was going to check it but had no time.
Could you post also the part of the cba?
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Sorry, I didn't go to the actual document - just asked the guys, who I trust completely. If I have time tomorrow, I'll see if I can find evidence in the CBA...I don't have the lifeforce for that right now.
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06-30-2015, 08:15 AM
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Are we prohibited from adding a "no trade" clause for him?
I could see as a player why that would be attractive - securing when/where you could be traded etc. And if it helps us get him - fine - chalk it up to the cost of business.
I am no CBA expert (speaking of that - where is David Lord?) but I think you may have to have a certain amount of tenure with one team to even be eligable for a clause such as that.
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