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Old 11-22-2018, 06:28 PM   #1
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How is it that these guys are spinning Young’s start as a positive? He is incredibly inefficient while showing zero positives in the areas of his game people were concerned with coming out of college.
No idea. He's been terrible. He has the occasional decent game but even his decent games he's incredibly inefficient.
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Moving to around the nba on second thought.

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Pure gold

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Idk, I checked out at about the 15 second mark.

Love Luka tho
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This.... is the greatest song ever created. And it's not close.
Man I'm totally with you on this one.

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Luka will win ROY

BUT if the Mavs win 50 games (I know I am being very optimistic here)...does look have a case for MVP if her puts up 20 6 and 4 all year??


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Luka will win ROY

BUT if the Mavs win 50 games (I know I am being very optimistic here)...does look have a case for MVP if her puts up 20 6 and 4 all year??


Any thoughts??
I dunno about MVP, but All-Star might be in the cards.
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@jga41agher: This is so cool. Someone sent me a clip of Steve Kerr talking about the 'Halleluka' song on the radio for some reason. (cc: @IsaacKLee) : https://twitter.com/jga41agher/statu...33334606417920
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So you missed a lot of funny lines...song is funny as hell

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The graphic above has a cutoff of 200 shots which several people have criticized that there are lots of players just below that threshold that are in the low-60's. Still not in Steph range but good none the less.

Looking at just pure EFG% (which I honestly don't even know how is calculated):
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/pla...efg-percentage

#1 Rudy Gobert Utah Jazz C 69.8%
#6 Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors PG 64.6%
#10 DeAndre Jordan Dallas Mavericks C 62.7%
#67 Luka Doncic Dallas Mavericks SF 53.6%
#71 Wesley Matthews Dallas Mavericks SG 53.1%
#98 Dennis Smith Jr. Dallas Mavericks PG 50.5%

Steph is the first non-big guy at the top with Moore jumping in at #12. So I guess Steph is still amazing as if noone disputes that but Goldberry's graphic emphasizes it quite a bit more given the right numerical restriction of 200+ shots.

I love stats and all, but they can almost always either say what you want or reinforce what you want with the right set of restrictions. I honestly LOL at some of the stats that pop up during NBA and NFL games. They do anything they can to make games or players look amazing.
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The graphic above has a cutoff of 200 shots which several people have criticized that there are lots of players just below that threshold that are in the low-60's. Still not in Steph range but good none the less.

Looking at just pure EFG% (which I honestly don't even know how is calculated):
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/pla...efg-percentage

#1 Rudy Gobert Utah Jazz C 69.8%
#6 Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors PG 64.6%
#10 DeAndre Jordan Dallas Mavericks C 62.7%
#67 Luka Doncic Dallas Mavericks SF 53.6%
#71 Wesley Matthews Dallas Mavericks SG 53.1%
#98 Dennis Smith Jr. Dallas Mavericks PG 50.5%

Steph is the first non-big guy at the top with Moore jumping in at #12. So I guess Steph is still amazing as if noone disputes that but Goldberry's graphic emphasizes it quite a bit more given the right numerical restriction of 200+ shots.

I love stats and all, but they can almost always either say what you want or reinforce what you want with the right set of restrictions. I honestly LOL at some of the stats that pop up during NBA and NFL games. They do anything they can to make games or players look amazing.
eFG is easy to calculate. Let's say you took 1 shot from 3-point range and made it and took no other shots. You have an eFG of 150%.

eFG = (2P + 1.5 * 3P) / FGA

So for Stephen Curry he has 60 2-pointers made, 62 3-pointers made, and 237 field goal attempts.

(60 + 1.5 * 62) / 237 = (60 + 93) / 237 = 153 / 237 = .646

I'd like to add how we should add to how crazy his stats are. This does not account for his free throw shooting. He's 48 for 52 from the free throw line (.923).
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https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/fta-fga

Doncic squeaking in at #100 in FTA / FGA

1 Quincy Pondexter San Antonio Spurs SF 0.833
4 Rudy Gobert Utah Jazz C 0.715
8 DeAndre Jordan Dallas Mavericks C 0.619
14 James Harden Houston Rockets SG 0.491
22 Marvin Bagley III Sacramento Kings PF 0.455
68 Wendell Carter Jr Chicago Bulls PF 0.328
76 Jaren Jackson Jr. Memphis Grizzlies PF 0.314
100 Luka Doncic Dallas Mavericks SF 0.273

As a side note, Gobert appears in the top of a lot of these advanced stats which is pretty interesting.
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No way Luka will win an MVP Award this season. Giannis has 34 // 13 // 6 at the moment..
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I hope Doncic is really happy here because I want him to be a Mav for life. Also he needs to get a max contract from us. Luckily, we have time for that, but he'll be worth it.
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39.7 MPG, 42% FG, 29% 3PT, 5.5 RPG, 5.9 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 20.9 PPG.

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Can Dennis Smith Jr. and Luka Doncic play together?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy4EHrCIDgA

nice little montage and discussion
obviously a work in progress but more and more I think we just need to be patient as they learn to play with each other
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Luka got ROY locked up if he doesn't get injured
But mavs still need more pieces need another big man who can contril post
I love the work jordan put in as rebounder and defender need a younger more athletic version of him to pair up with luka
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What will go a long way is if DSJ takes just a bit of a back seat offensively and continues to work on his defensive game...It's ok if DSJ is only the #3-#4 option on offense moving forward..

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What will go a long way is if DSJ takes just a bit of a back seat offensively and continues to work on his defensive game...It's ok if DSJ is only the #3-#4 option on offense moving forward..
It's an interesting conversation for sure. Would we all be OK if he became a better version of say....Avery Bradley?
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Dude is getting wrecked like Dirk— but also bounced back quick like Dirk

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Trae Young and Luka Doncic have been named the NBA's Rookies of the Month for October and November.

Young averaged 15.6 points, 7.6 assists and 3.0 rebounds per game.

Doncic averaged 18.5 points, 6.5 rebounds and 4.3 assists per game.
Doncic has now won 100% of all rookie of the month awards

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Doncic has now won 100% of all rookie of the month awards
Fake news got me again! I was thinking he's won 3 RotM awards (Oct, Nov, Dec?)? And I was also thinking how did Trae win it with him?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/rom.html
This was the first RotM award this year.
Trae was the East winner and Doncic was the West.
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If you like me plan to tune into the latest "30 thoughts for 30 teams" Ringer Podcast and hoping for a solid Mavs / Luka take, I can save you some disappointment. You are going to wait the full pod only for them to play out the show with "Halleluka".
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Some Luka film study: https://twitter.com/ScoutWithBryan/s...48925186269184
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Does anyone have any insight as to what the camera work is like overseas? Is it more wide shots with less of the closeups in between the action? I notice that Luka seems to get caught making goofy faces and things more often than others. Maybe he just doesn't care, but I was wondering if there was any difference in how those games are televised that might explain some of it.
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Does anyone have any insight as to what the camera work is like overseas? Is it more wide shots with less of the closeups in between the action? I notice that Luka seems to get caught making goofy faces and things more often than others. Maybe he just doesn't care, but I was wondering if there was any difference in how those games are televised that might explain some of it.

It’s just his personality. He just put there having fun while playing a kids game. Tonight was another example. He got left hanging and had to dap himself. He just has a silly personality which is one of the things that makes him great if you ask me.

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Wes giving Luka the cold shoulder.
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LOL, Wes just didn't see him and Luka had a sense of humor about it.
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Here you go, a YT video from a EUROLEAGUE match. Double ankle breaker and reaction. He is just a kid who is enjoying playing basketball, and does this in a fantastic way.

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But Barea figures Doncic has earned the special treatment due to his professional experience and production. "He's a different rookie," Barea says with a shrug. "He won't follow the rules to perfection, but he's cool about it."
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LeBron James asked about AD comments, goes on to name all the greatest players in the league he'd love to play with -- mentions Luka Doncic in the same breath as Durant, Butler, Giannis, Embiid, etc.: https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/sta...65867787505664

19 years old and already seen as one of the best by the best basketball player in the world... No pressure, kid.
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19 years old and already seen as one of the best by the best basketball player in the world... No pressure, kid.
Sounds pretty official that we are trading Mathews Powell dsj and Brunson for lebrawn jaymes
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Sounds pretty official that we are trading Mathews Powell dsj and Brunson for lebrawn jaymes
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