03-31-2023, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Derozan would have changed this team. That type of player is who we need on thr wing. Even more than Kyrie. We need a Mobil semi intelligent big and we need a 2 way wing or someone with size who can get buckets, pass and reb.
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DeRozan is who they should've targeted few years ago but te FO was too hellbent on only getting guys who space the floor around Luka.
Rc said the post up and mid range shots were no longer good shots in today's NBA.
What I also find baffling is that the mavs refuse to play two bigs together most of the game.
Yet look at Minnesota, Cleveland, Utah, NY and Atlanta those teams often play two bigs at the same time and not all their bigs are stretch bigs
Dallas reluctantance to play that way is why they repeatedly rank year after year in the bottom 5 for rebounding.
Each one of those teams play a traditional big next to a stretch big together
Dallas very rarely wmhas used McGee next to Wood and Kleber as the stretch bigs this year
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03-31-2023, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
DeRozan is who they should've targeted few years ago but te FO was too hellbent on only getting guys who space the floor around Luka.
Rc said the post up and mid range shots were no longer good shots in today's NBA.
What I also find baffling is that the mavs refuse to play two bigs together most of the game.
Yet look at Minnesota, Cleveland, Utah, NY and Atlanta those teams often play two bigs at the same time and not all their bigs are stretch bigs
Dallas reluctantance to play that way is why they repeatedly rank year after year in the bottom 5 for rebounding.
Each one of those teams play a traditional big next to a stretch big together
Dallas very rarely wmhas used McGee next to Wood and Kleber as the stretch bigs this year
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Wood and McGee as starting bigs was never a real thought for Kidd. It was the start of his downfall for me. You run those 2 in the slu for at least 20 games. Exhaust that option and get/show proof that it isn't working.
The other teams you mention have one of their 2 bigs who can be a shot blocker and or at least a mobile big who also switch and recover. Maybe McGee and Wood have that capability but we will never ever know. I would have still tried it. We spent years watch RC cater and counter other teams lineups instead of forcing adjustments. Kidd didn't even try. He fulfilled the minimal version of McGee starting but never ran another actual big along side and apparently we still don't have the data that tells him we are baaaaad at rebounding.
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03-31-2023, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Wood and McGee as starting bigs was never a real thought for Kidd. It was the start of his downfall for me. You run those 2 in the slu for at least 20 games. Exhaust that option and get/show proof that it isn't working.
The other teams you mention have one of their 2 bigs who can be a shot blocker and or at least a mobile big who also switch and recover. Maybe McGee and Wood have that capability but we will never ever know. I would have still tried it. We spent years watch RC cater and counter other teams lineups instead of forcing adjustments. Kidd didn't even try. He fulfilled the minimal version of McGee starting but never ran another actual big along side and apparently we still don't have the data that tells him we are baaaaad at rebounding.
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Kidd would rather play Bullock, THJ, or Holiday at the 4 than give McGee or Morris some minutes.
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03-31-2023, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by purplefrog
Kidd would rather play Bullock, THJ, or Holiday at the 4 than give McGee or Morris some minutes.
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Yep
He's trying to use those guys to replace DFS at the 4 and neither of them have the size or length as DFS to play that position
Then when play Powell or kleber at center with other little guys you compound the situation even more
I'm actually shocked at this because Kidd was apart of that lakers staff that played 2 bigs together doing their title year in the bubble
Then he said coming into this season he wanted the mavs to get bigger and yet he's playing a bunch of midget ball lineups
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04-01-2023, 09:47 AM
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Kyrie is going to the Heat and Luka asked to be traded to the Lakers
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04-01-2023, 02:05 PM
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Kyrie is going to the Heat and Luka asked to be traded to the Lakers
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Lawl what
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04-01-2023, 06:47 PM
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Butler is going to foul THJ out this game by halftime
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04-01-2023, 06:54 PM
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I literally hate Dwight Powell's game
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04-01-2023, 06:57 PM
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Worst fucking rebounding team in the NBA
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04-01-2023, 07:08 PM
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Miami has scored less than 95 points in their last two games and yet they have 40 on the mavs already
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04-01-2023, 08:04 PM
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Fucking Luka and Powell are trash ass defensively
Kidd can't be this fucking dumb to keep allowing these two to get destroyed
Powell is literally no fuckibg resistance to zeller
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04-01-2023, 08:07 PM
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If we lose out can we get top 8 pick??
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04-01-2023, 08:26 PM
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Wood displaying the low b-ball iq as usual
Dude always makes dumb mistakes at critical times
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04-01-2023, 08:39 PM
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They just keep asking Luka to defend butler
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04-01-2023, 09:06 PM
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Our team is trash. We aren't going anywhere without a competent big man. I hate to say it but I am all for the tank at this point. I don't want to watch Dwight Powell get destroyed in the playoffs. There are too many dominant centers/power forwards in the west.
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04-01-2023, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blessednegr0
Our team is trash. We aren't going anywhere without a competent big man. I hate to say it but I am all for the tank at this point. I don't want to watch Dwight Powell get destroyed in the playoffs. There are too many dominant centers/power forwards in the west.
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It's actually pathetic that he got outplayed by Cody zeller a dude who wasn't even on an NBA roster 2 months ago
That is how bad Powell is and yet cuban, kids and Nico all love this guy.
Sam Mitchell on nba TV at halftime said it's mind-boggling how the mavs expect to play drop coverage defense with Powell as your rim protector
He threw shade at the coaching and front office because of their reluctance to keep starting him.
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04-01-2023, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
It's actually pathetic that he got outplayed by Cody zeller a dude who wasn't even on an NBA roster 2 months ago
That is how bad Powell is and yet cuban, kids and Nico all love this guy.
Sam Mitchell on nba TV at halftime said it's mind-boggling how the mavs expect to play drop coverage defense with Powell as your rim protector
He threw shade at the coaching and front office because of their reluctance to keep starting him.
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I am sure we will run back everyone next year from Kidd to Green to THJ to Powell to Kleber.
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04-01-2023, 09:14 PM
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This team just completely fell apart defensively without DFS. They can?t even win when they shoot 60%.
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04-01-2023, 09:18 PM
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How many teams have ever lost with the shooting numbers we put up today? It can?t be many.
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04-01-2023, 09:22 PM
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Josh Green is garbage. Full stop.
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04-01-2023, 09:45 PM
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Good loss
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04-01-2023, 10:21 PM
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You know Kidd is trying to lose with playing Hardy 6 minutes and Wood 13. I?m now convinced he is doing it purposely lose. April fools?
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04-01-2023, 10:51 PM
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At this point if we lose the last four, we have a better than 50% chance at keeping our pick.
B2B hawks tomorrow
Bring in the losses
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04-01-2023, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
At this point if we lose the last four, we have a better than 50% chance at keeping our pick.
B2B hawks tomorrow
Bring in the losses
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Damn, we gotta lose 4 more for those odds? You know the Mavs will screw it up and give the Knicks the 11th pick.
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04-02-2023, 08:36 AM
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At this point if we lose the last four, we have a better than 50% chance at keeping our pick.
B2B hawks tomorrow
Bring in the losses
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Technically accurate, but missing so much in context and variables.
It?s pretty simple, if we have the 10th worst record and we?re not tied with anyone else, we have an 80% chance of keeping the pick.
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04-02-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
Technically accurate, but missing so much in context and variables.
It?s pretty simple, if we have the 10th worst record and we?re not tied with anyone else, we have an 80% chance of keeping the pick.
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Fuck you.
I seriously spend time outlining exact percentages and you decide to be a condescending dick
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04-02-2023, 09:32 AM
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Fuck you.
I seriously spend time outlining exact percentages and you decide to be a condescending dick
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Anyone else remember when cussing was not allowed on this forum?
Moderator?
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04-02-2023, 09:33 AM
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Anyone else remember when cussing was not allowed on this forum?
Moderator?
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No one wants to moderate this shithole.
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04-01-2023, 11:03 PM
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100% no man's land. Stop dreaming.
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04-01-2023, 11:14 PM
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Didn?t watch the game and I don?t think I want to know how in the hell they lost a game shooting 63% and 3 players combining for 96 points.
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04-01-2023, 11:42 PM
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Didn?t watch the game and I don?t think I want to know how in the hell they lost a game shooting 63% and 3 players combining for 96 points.
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Green is the lynchpin of defense.
With him? 15th in defense (pp100)
Without him? 30th on pp100
Kidd again wanted to fuck with the roster by subbing a balanced guy for a pure offense and got it. Then we allowed 76 in the half
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04-02-2023, 10:56 AM
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Must be a helluva Sunday hangover...
Everyone take a deep breath and be cool with the fact that Kidd will still be the coach next season.
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04-02-2023, 02:41 PM
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Must be a helluva Sunday hangover...
Everyone take a deep breath and be cool with the fact that Kidd will still be the coach next season.
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Fvck you! Take your bullshit optimism elsewhere!
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04-02-2023, 10:58 AM
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it's funny that you think you are dunking on me when you're not.
1) At the time you posted, the Mavs were 12th and were 3-3 (playing .500 ball). You posted that we we had a "good chance" to keep the pick. At 12th and playing .500 ball (3-3), we were heading to a 7.2% chance of keeping the pick. I disagreed because 7.2% is not a "good chance" to me. Those stats you post (and cherry-pick) don't use the sudden swing, but that's how stats work. The trend line can (and does) change with a 1-6 run, but time matters and you are so disingenuous that you are trying to make a flawed argument by removing the context of time. If someone is healthy and young, it would be foolish to claim that they'd die young. If they die young, you don't get to criticize people who predicted a long life when at the time all indicators were pointing that way.
2) If we lose today, assuming all possibilities are equally likely like 3-0 being as likely as 0-3 (which they are not), then we have above a 50% chance of keeping the pick. Thanks for correcting me though. I do enjoy being corrected when I am not wrong.
3) I never "pushed" a narrative that we were going to lose the pick. I disagreed with you on the phrase "good chance" because the present outlook and the projected future outlook were not looking good. Of course, the sudden 1-6 swing has you feeling pretty cocky, because yes if we lose today we are more likely than not to keep the pick. No one could have predicted that swing, but the swing has changed the outlook which is why I have been posting probabilities and updates in the draft thread as the possibility of keeping the pick has skyrocketed. When situations change, it is okay to change opinions. I have changed my tune and you are still dwelling on posts from weeks ago. Maybe you are just hurt that I disagreed with you weeks ago. I'm personally happy that the outlook of 2-3 weeks ago has changed in our favor. I think we absolutely need the pick.
I do find it hilarious that you correct my lack of "nuance" with a post totally lacking nuance and context to attack the "boogeyman" that is EL.
Anyway, you're still here. Post if you want. Leave if you want. I don't give a shit. If you come at me, though, I don't have to take it and can correct the record. There aren't other mods around and I haven't used my mod powers in months and I'm clapping back as a private poster. If you like DM.com and hate me that much, then just ignore me. If you hate DM that much, then absolutely go to Reddit. You're not a toddler and no one gives a shit if you take your ball and go home. You're an adult (I'm assuming). Do what makes you happy.
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04-02-2023, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
it's funny that you think you are dunking on me when you're not.....
I do find it hilarious that you correct my lack of "nuance" with a post totally lacking nuance and context to attack the "boogeyman" that is EL.
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You literally said if had the tenth worst record we'd have a "13.9% chance" of keeping the pick when it's actually 80%.
You are consistently, objectively wrong. Then you throw a hissy fit and insult posters when you're called out. You've driven away a bunch of good posters from this board like UnderDog. All this and you're a moderator?
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04-02-2023, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
You literally said if had the tenth worst record we'd have a "13.9% chance" of keeping the pick when it's actually 80%.
You are consistently, objectively wrong. Then you throw a hissy fit and insult posters when you're called out. You've driven away a bunch of good posters from this board like UnderDog. All this and you're a moderator?
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Underdog and I are friends. Stop making up bullshit.
I made a mistake on that ONE percentage weeks ago and you are consistently bringing it up despite correcting it many times since. Do you always continue to harass people on mistakes weeks ago? Do you always make shit up to make people look worse?
Anyway, I'm not banning you but I am ignoring you.
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04-02-2023, 03:51 PM
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Underdog and I are friends. Stop making up bullshit.
I made a mistake on that ONE percentage weeks ago and you are consistently bringing it up despite correcting it many times since. Do you always continue to harass people on mistakes weeks ago? Do you always make shit up to make people look worse?
Anyway, I'm not banning you but I am ignoring you.
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Lol what a snowflake. You were quick to cuss at me and then quick to block me for calling you out on your bullshit. You?re a coward.
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04-02-2023, 11:49 AM
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Do you guys wish the Mavs could hit the reset button on this team? What I mean is the same players with Luka, Kyrie, Wood even THJ and everyone else on the roster. But with a good coaching staff? There is a lot of skill and talent in this team but so misused. I hope in another reality, this Mavs group is winning.
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04-02-2023, 11:57 AM
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Do you guys wish the Mavs could hit the reset button on this team? What I mean is the same players with Luka, Kyrie, Wood even THJ and everyone else on the roster. But with a good coaching staff? There is a lot of skill and talent in this team but so misused. I hope in another reality, this Mavs group is winning.
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Won't happen. Nico basically already trashed everyone not named Luka and Kyrie in that Caplan interview.
The coach is the main problem, but the big man situation is still a mess. Maxi and Powell just aren't good, plain and simple. Wood and McGee would do better with consistent minutes, but they can't hold down the fort by themselves. Still need another big.
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04-02-2023, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon2
Do you guys wish the Mavs could hit the reset button on this team? What I mean is the same players with Luka, Kyrie, Wood even THJ and everyone else on the roster. But with a good coaching staff? There is a lot of skill and talent in this team but so misused. I hope in another reality, this Mavs group is winning.
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People considered Rick a good coach and guess what he still rolled out Powell at center
The next good coach that Dallas gets will be the coach that no longer has Powell or THJ on this roster as starting options.
Both Rick and Kidd got too comfortable with both players and imo even if you bring in a new coach on those two guts are still on this roster I'm willing to guarantee you they will continue to be apart of the main core and play
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