Charles Barkley likes eating crow

[GoNugs]

Originally Posted by G-Man

Come with facts and respect and you will be respected here. Troll and you will be dissed.

Mavs fans are looking at losing 3 of 4 games by a total of 7 points, and thinking this looks pretty even. 2 hottest teams in the West. 2 best old man point guards. 2 all-stars at the 3.

This ought to be fun.

I couldn't agree more. I believe the series is pretty even...in my opinion, neither side has a significant advantage...which was my point...

I disagreed with the assessment that Howard is equal with Anthony.

[Mavdog]

Originally Posted by GoNugs

I disagreed with the assessment that Howard is equal with Anthony.

comparing players can get very subjective, but looking at their career stats is illuminating.

the bottom line is that they are very, very close. anthony has a 5% better 3 pt percentage, a less than 3% better ft percentage, more than twice as many assists/gm with twice as many turnovers/gm.

oh yeah, anthony takes 40% more shots hence the higher scoring avg.

so yes, there is a valid argument that the two players can be viewed as equals.

they both also can be a knucklehead at times, and that seems to be an area that anthony has been much more proficient than howard. after all howard never openly defied his coach during a game like anthony has.

[ty]

Originally Posted by Mavdog

Clearly comparing players can get very subjective, but looking at their career stats is illuminating.

Clearly the bottom line is that they are very, very close. anthony has a 5% better 3 pt percentage, a less than 3% better ft percentage, more than twice as many assists/gm with twice as many turnovers/gm.

oh yeah, clearly anthony takes 40% more shots hence the higher scoring avg.

so yes, clearly there is a valid argument that the two players can be viewed as equals.

Clearly they both also can be a knucklehead at times, and that seems to be an area that anthony has been much more proficient than howard. after all howard never openly defied his coach during a game like anthony has.

Clearly fixed..

[SMC0007]

that is so crystal clear now, but yet not quite bright enough!

[GoNugs]

I find it somewhat funny that I am considered to be the one that is not subjective here, when the premise supported is that the Mavs have an advantage at every position, with the exeption of the 3 (Carmello vs Josh) and that is equal...including bench play, coaching and intangibles.

Thanks for the chuckle.

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by GoNugs

hopefully I can have a little fun on the Board

Originally Posted by GoNugs

Thanks for the chuckle.

Glad we could be of service.

[GoNugs]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

Glad we could be of service.

It's shocking that a team with such inferior players and coaching swept the season series.

Shocking.

[alby]

The importance members put on what Barkley says on TV really shocks me.

[dalmations202]

Subjective:

Kidd vs Billups --- Even, both have their days, Kidd the better master controller, and Billups the better dagger shooter. Both are exceptional at their jobs. Kidd will be in the HOF, and Billups has a ring.

Smith vs Terry --- Even, both are very sweet shooters and both are streaky. Neither is a defensive juggernaut.

Jones vs Wright --- Even, both are defensive guys who can provide some offense at times.

Carmelo vs Howard -- Adv Denver slightly. Carmelo is used to being the #1 option, and he is a very good scorer. JHo is a little better defensively (when he wants to be), IMO, and when he plays in the system a very good secondary scorer. If JHo plays lights out on both ends though, this becomes adv Dallas.

Dirk vs KMart -- Adv Dallas. Dirk is the best offensive and overall player on the floor. Birdman will spend as much time on Dirk as KMart does. KMart is physical, but officiating will determine how much of an advantage Dirk has here. If they let KMart foul alot without calls, adv Denver, if not, Dirk will go off on them and huge adv Dallas.

Nene vs Damp -- adv offensively to Nene, in fact fairly large. Adv defensively to Damp. How are the officials going to call it? Are they going to let Damp defend the rim, or call ticky tack stuff? This battle will be determined by the officials more than anything.

Karl vs Carlisle --- even, IMO. They are both veteran coaches with lots of wins.

Bench vs Bench -- crapshoot - both benches have been very good at times and very bad at times. Hollins vs Birdman -- etc. you just don't know till its played.

Intangibles -- adv Denver. They have home court. They won the season series. They had the better overall record.
Both teams seem to be peaking at the right time. Both teams have high confidence.

Overall, IMO, it is too close to call......but I'd give a slight overall advantage to Denver.

The team that gets on a roll and rides it will probably end up playing LA in about two weeks.

[92bDad]

As Mavs fans, we may not have the most non-biased opinions...so I wonder, and this is obviously for another thread...but how would we break down the other Western Conference matchup?

Houston v LA?

Do the Rockets have a chance...or do we believe the Lakers are SOOOO superior that they will simpy showup and be handed the series victory?

After all, it's being said that who ever wins between Dallas and Denver will be facing the Lakers...But I wonder, could the Rockets be the perfect type of team to upset the Lakers?

Would it be great to somehow see the double upset and have Barkley eating some Texas swine-flu CROW in a Texas Hold Em Western Conference Finals?

[mavs777]

The Rockets do have a chance because of the match ups

Fisher against Brooks
Artest/Battier guarding Kobe

Yao against Bynum, he has to absolutly dominate this match up in every way possible
Rockets are going to need Scola, Wafer, and Landry to score

[GoNugs]

Originally Posted by mavs777

The Rockets do have a chance because of the match ups

Fisher against Brooks
Artest/Battier guarding Kobe

Yao against Bynum, he has to absolutly dominate this match up in every way possible
Rockets are going to need Scola, Wafer, and Landry to score

One thing all Nuggets fans and Mavs fans can agree upon....we'd all like to see the Rockets win that series.

[TheMaverick]

GoMavs

[tcat075]

Barkley is a dick.