07-02-2008, 11:20 AM
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It doesn't help that our star players can't help in the wine and dine process if we really needed them. They can obviously talk to them, but being right there with them is probably hard to do. Its impossible for Dirk, and I'm sure it's somewhat hard for Kidd to do. It's no fault of their own, they've got very good reasons not to be involved.
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07-02-2008, 11:26 AM
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^ This is what worries me about his relationship with Kobe.
They are best buds and Kobe can just give him a call or visit his house/family, and that's that.
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07-02-2008, 12:56 PM
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no whammies, no whammies......
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07-06-2008, 04:39 PM
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Are the richest getting richest-er?
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Clippers free agent forward Corey Maggette said he is seriously considering an offer to join the NBA champions.
Maggette said he is still in awe about being contacted by the Celtics and has been mulling over their contract offer as well as interest from several other teams.
An NBA source said the Celtics offered Magette the full midlevel exception, expected to be worth $5.8 million.
The Celtics have made offers to their own forward, James Posey, and Maggette, but it's doubtful they can accommodate both. While there is no news regarding Posey, Maggette said he could be coming to Boston in the near future to visit with the Celtics. Free agents can't sign until Wednesday.
"I don't want to hold the Celtics up or [general manager] Danny Ainge," said Maggette in a telephone interview. "I talked to Doc . . . I'm not going to hold them up. I know they are still looking at James Posey. But I'm still weighing my options."
Maggette averaged a team-best 22.1 points as well as 5.6 rebounds for the Clippers last season. The 6-foot-6-inch, 228-pounder played for Rivers in Orlando during the 1999-2000 season.
Maggette said Rivers, his fellow Chicago native, called Wednesday.
"We shot the breeze," said Maggette. "He asked about my family. My mom went to the same high school [as Rivers]. My family has known his family for a long time. I'm very comfortable with him."
Even with Maggette's scoring ability, he would be expected to come off the bench with Boston behind All-Star wing players Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. Maggette said he would have no problems with a reserve role.
"I don't mind," he said. "If you want to win, you have to make sacrifices. With their caliber of players, that's what you have to do.
"Going to a championship team would be exciting to me. Going to a team that can win and has tradition is exciting."
The Clippers aren't expected to re-sign Maggette after they landed free agent guard Baron Davis Tuesday with a five-year, $65 million contract. But if Golden State gets Clippers free agent forward Elton Brand, the Clippers could have a change of heart regarding Maggette. Clippers owner Donald Sterling is a big fan of Maggette. Other teams interested in Maggette include the Spurs, 76ers, Warriors, Hornets, Magic, Jazz, and Cavaliers.
As for the Clippers' situation, Maggette said, "I'll know soon. If not, that's the nature of the business and I'll move on. If not, I'll definitely want to call to thank [Clippers] coach Mike Dunleavy and [GM] Elgin Baylor and let them know I appreciated my eight years there."
Maggette was a teammate of Celtics free agent guard Sam Cassell with the Clippers from 2005-08. They recently shared some Celtics talk.
"He said to come out to get a ring," Maggette said.
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07-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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To be honest, this would actually be worse than him going to the Spurs.
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07-06-2008, 04:51 PM
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that just wouldn't even be a competition anymore. the NBA would be pretty boring.
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07-06-2008, 06:49 PM
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HAHA. It certainly seems that way buddy. But honestly I would rather he goes to the Least-ern conference, than he comes to our fellow West compadres, the spurs. I mean honesly, does anyone here really want to see a lineup of Parker, Timmy d and Magette, and Ginobli coming from the bench???
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07-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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If we could manage a SnT for Diop, I would hope Boston gets Maggette and we push hard for Posey. The guy does all the little things and he's nasty.
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07-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like he ought to take their offer.
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07-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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HAHA. It certainly seems that way buddy. But honestly I would rather he goes to the Least-ern conference, than he comes to our fellow West compadres, the spurs. I mean honesty, does anyone here really want to see a lineup of Prrker, Timmy d and Magette, and Ginobli coming from the bench???
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I agree that I'd rather see him in Boston than San Antonio (just because he'd be in the East), but I also have to agree with Jthig about Maggette making the Celtics a whole lot better than he'd make the Spurs (and that's downright scary...)
At least Posey would become available...
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Just in case there weren't enough teams throwing around Corey Maggette's name over the last couple of weeks, now the Detroit Pistons have added their name to the list. Weeks after Joe Dumars declared the Pistons open for business the team has still not found a participant for the blockbuster trade they've been looking to pull off. It now appears that free agency will be their primary means of improving the roster, though they don't have a lot of room to go that route. Like San Antonio, Orlando, Boston, Philly, Houston, Dallas, Golden State and a myriad of other teams, the Pistons will rely on the strength of their All-Star roster to try and convince Maggette that his best path to a championship lies through Detroit.
So what's the deal with everyone suddenly deciding that Corey Maggette equates a championship?
It's pretty simple, really. Maggette is one of the few players available on the open market who can drop the three (38%), drive to the hole and create a shot off the dribble, and also hit a mid-range. He's good at getting the foul line (681 times in 2007-08) and hits better than 80% once he gets there. Maggette can give you 20+ points per game, but also rebounds and gives you good hustle play. His attitude has been an issue, which is why he's out of favor with the Clippers, but the best way to change an attitude is to surround a guy with quality players and give him a shot at a title.
It's not a stretch to say that the team which lands Maggette winds up in the Finals . . .not much of a stretch at all.
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07-07-2008, 07:56 AM
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Because Arenas and Davis not available, GS needs a good PG/SG! Eventually Dallas can do Terry in a trade with LAC/GS and Mavs...
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07-07-2008, 10:47 AM
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Maggette Likes Midlevel Offer From Spurs
Jul 07, 2008 9:30 AM EST
Free agent forward Corey Maggette appears to favor the mid-level offer from the Spurs in the event that he doesn't receive a more lucrative offer, according to ESPN.com.
He's still hoping a team with cap space, like Philadelphia or Golden State, will enter the race for his services in the coming days.
A number of contenders are interested in adding Maggette, but all they have to offer is part or all of the midlevel exception.
Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando, New Orleans, San Antonio, and Utah are all known to be interested.
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07-07-2008, 11:02 AM
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The Mavs barely get mentioned. It's like the writers know we have no chance of landing him so they don't even bother to mention us.
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07-07-2008, 11:05 AM
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My gut feeling is he's going to land with the Spurs but if not them then he'll be a Celtic. Even if we had the MLE availavle I don't think he'd be interested in coming to Dallas.
Hopefully, Maggette will go to Boston so Posey will become available to us if we can work out a S&T with Diop and NJ
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07-07-2008, 11:16 AM
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Let's see. He opts out of 7M a year to take a contract for 5.5-6M a year.
He got screwed by LAC taking Baron -- You know he expected a SNT.
If Dallas or anyone else wants him, they have got to have something that those under the cap want. I think LAC would play (but even that is questionable), but finding the other party is the problem.
If no one wants to play, call it three years at the MLE, but I would guess he would want a player option and SA or Boston here he comes.
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07-07-2008, 11:18 AM
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Let's just hope he's greedy and he goes for the money.
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07-07-2008, 11:21 AM
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He would have mad up his mind by now if he was going to wither one of those IMO. If Pose leave then I can see him going to the Cs. BUT hes going to Golden State IMO. Brand will go back to LA...soo GS will offer Maggette a 10 mill contract. Thats what hes waiting for..and he will go there.
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07-07-2008, 11:59 AM
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Edit: Post in wrong thread
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07-07-2008, 01:46 PM
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I can't imagine GS or Philly doesn't offer Maggette a big time contract. He'd be a fool to turn the money down if it's around $100 million.
But it sounds like the Spurs are the favorites right now.
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07-07-2008, 02:06 PM
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I can't imagine GS or Philly doesn't offer Maggette a big time contract. He'd be a fool to turn the money down if it's around $100 million.
But it sounds like the Spurs are the favorites right now.
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Philly's offering all their cap space to Josh Smith. Only way Maggette gets an offer from them is if he still hasn't signed if/when Atlanta matches their offer.
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07-07-2008, 02:19 PM
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Philly's offering all their cap space to Josh Smith. Only way Maggette gets an offer from them is if he still hasn't signed if/when Atlanta matches their offer.
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Anything but CM in SA next season...I was just getting used to the idea that Timmy could be getting old.
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07-07-2008, 02:32 PM
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Idea: Maggette wants to a winner team and eventually he wants more than 5,5Mio. If LAC can trade Maggette, they will running back a good player..
LAC Sign an trade Maggette together with Kaman for Josh and Damp?
Maggette get 8 or 9 Mio,
Dallas become the very good german frontline Kaman/Dirk .... and ... Maggette/Kidd
LAC became a good roster too .. Davis, Howard, Brand ---
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07-07-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mbaur
Idea: Maggette wants to a winner team and eventually he wants more than 5,5Mio. If LAC can trade Maggette, they will running back a good player..
LAC Sign an trade Maggette together with Kaman for Josh and Damp?
Maggette get 8 or 9 Mio,
Dallas become the very good german frontline Kaman/Dirk .... and ... Maggette/Kidd
LAC became a good roster too .. Davis, Howard, Brand ---
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First of all the Clippers would never do that deal.
Secondly, again, unless Brand signs with Golden State, the Clippers will not have the cap space to sign Maggette and then trade him.
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07-07-2008, 02:46 PM
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I think Maggette waits until the others make up their minds. He won't sign until he knows the money is already gone.
And SA will wait as long as Maggette is still out there.
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07-07-2008, 02:55 PM
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That says a lot about Maggette. One of those teams could easily be in the mix for yet another ring next year, and two of them...not so much.
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07-07-2008, 02:55 PM
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If teams wait on Maggette and we still manage to kee our midlevel then we should strike at someone like Posey.
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07-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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If teams wait on Maggette and we still manage to kee our midlevel then we should strike at someone like Posey.
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if if if....but I agree about going after someone like Posey....again.
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07-07-2008, 06:20 PM
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We got nothin but ifs right now.
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07-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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We got nothin but ifs right now.
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I hope the front office has more than "ifs"
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07-07-2008, 07:40 PM
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Do you need to be under the cap to do a SNT? I keep hearing the Clippers can't do the SNT unless Brand goes elsewhere, but why can't they? Surely they have Maggette's bird rights?
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07-07-2008, 07:47 PM
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Do you need to be under the cap to do a SNT? I keep hearing the Clippers can't do the SNT unless Brand goes elsewhere, but why can't they? Surely they have Maggette's bird rights?
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They do, and those Bird rights are counting toward their cap. The only way they can get enough cap room to sign Davis with is to renounce those Bird rights.
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07-07-2008, 08:04 PM
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Thanks. I didn't realize that the Bird rights count towards the cap.
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07-08-2008, 03:58 AM
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I can't imagine San Antonio not winning the title if they landed Maggette, which bothers me, since I think the Mavs can win a title next year right now .
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07-08-2008, 08:18 AM
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I can't imagine San Antonio not winning the title if they landed Maggette, which bothers me, since I think the Mavs can win a title next year right now .
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It's the offseason, anyone can win the title.
The Mavs as currently constructed can't beat the Lakers, SA, Boston, or NO in a 7 game, and would have trouble beating about 6 or 7 other teams, IMO.
Dallas just doesn't have an inside post force, or a superstar slasher. I just don't see them winning it all without one of those two.
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07-08-2008, 10:06 AM
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The Mavs as currently constructed can't beat the Lakers, SA, Boston, or NO in a 7 game, and would have trouble beating about 6 or 7 other teams, IMO.
Dallas just doesn't have an inside post force, or a superstar slasher. I just don't see them winning it all without one of those two.
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True that.
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07-08-2008, 10:27 AM
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Ummm I think the Mavs can beat any of those teams....not easy...but can be done
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07-08-2008, 01:00 PM
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Ummm I think the Mavs can beat any of those teams....not easy...but can be done
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I can win the lottery as well, but the odds are stacked against it.
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07-08-2008, 02:51 PM
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I can win the lottery as well, but the odds are stacked against it.
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Still doesnt mean it impossible : )...your coming around
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"It feels disrespectful when you watch these shows, TNT, ESPN, and they're talking, 'Walk through the Mavericks, that's who you want to play," Terry said. "OK. We'll see if that's who you want to play."
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07-08-2008, 02:52 PM
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Seriously though the only team I can see us having a real hard time is Boston because of the guys they have on the team. But they are beatable as well
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"It feels disrespectful when you watch these shows, TNT, ESPN, and they're talking, 'Walk through the Mavericks, that's who you want to play," Terry said. "OK. We'll see if that's who you want to play."
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07-08-2008, 03:28 PM
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Thanks. I didn't realize that the Bird rights count towards the cap.
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And it counts in varying degrees:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#27
From how much you paid of a minimum salary to 300% a 4th year player coming off their rookie deal.
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