Would you trade this year's first for Kawhi?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

It's just a huge red flag if the Spurs actually start entertaining trade offers for him. That means it's Leonard who wants out...and guess what? That means he could do the very same thing to us. The last thing you want is a disgruntled superstar. To be disgruntled on a perennial contender is very strange.

I'd do it if he was the final piece to the puzzle, but he isn't.

And again, our division rival isn't going to be doing us any favors. It would cost an arm and a leg to get him if they'd even deal with us at all.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's just a huge red flag if the Spurs actually start entertaining trade offers for him. That means it's Leonard who wants out...and guess what? That means he could do the very same thing to us. The last thing you want is a disgruntled superstar. To be disgruntled on a perennial contender is very strange.

I'd do it if he was the final piece to the puzzle, but he isn't.

And again, our division rival isn't going to be doing us any favors. It would cost an arm and a leg to get him if they'd even deal with us at all.

This.

Superstars aren’t guaranteed. They need a system. They need a good head on their shoulders. They may be sane and focused in one place and unhappy in another. They need to be healthy. There’s no guarantee that Kawhi would be a star for us or even want to play for us

It would be silly to say that he would 100% be a flop, but there are enough red flags about his health and personality that he’s FAR from a sure thing. All we need is to trade another draft pick for a star only for them to Rondo

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

It's just a huge red flag if the Spurs actually start entertaining trade offers for him. That means it's Leonard who wants out...and guess what? That means he could do the very same thing to us. The last thing you want is a disgruntled superstar. To be disgruntled on a perennial contender is very strange.

Again, we just trade for him with an extension and medical clearance. If he agrees to sign the extension with us, he wants to be here. And he got the medical green light.

No one knows what happened with the Spurs. I just know that he got medical cleared by the Spurs but looked like shit when he came back. Maybe he thought the Spurs rushed him to save the season and risked his health with that...

I'd do it if he was the final piece to the puzzle, but he isn't.

He would be a major step because with our cap situation we have 2019 and 2020 max cap space again and its just a much better sales pitch to other FA to join Kawhi/DSJ/Barnes/Rick...or in 2020 to join Kawhi/DSJ/2019 FA star...

And again, our division rival isn't going to be doing us any favors. It would cost an arm and a leg to get him if they'd even deal with us at all.

They will go for the best value. If they dont trade him they probably know he ends up with the Lakers anyway. Dont see it relevant for them where in the west he ends up...

[Bryan_Wilson]

I think if the Magic offered 5th pick and we offered 3rd pick they'd take the 5th pick. Other teams could be willing to offer a top 10 pick this year plus a player plus a future pick. Desperate smaller market teams who need to win. I think anyone in the West would be held to a kings ransom. I wouldn't hate the trade but I wouldn't do it personally either. I think there is something to be said for the Spurs organization never having an issue with players and they are one of the more cautious teams I think.

And to be fair he has missed now 151 games out of his 7 years. 73 of them came this year but that is still almost 80 games missed in 6 years. And allegedly part of the Spurs frustration is that he never likes to play with any sort of bruise, sprain, discomfort etc. Idk if that is true or not but that in conjunction with not seeing him play in over a year at full strength and his weird stuff going on with the Spurs med staff(which has never had an issue with any player before to my knowledge) doesn't make him a sure fire superstar in a trade. I wouldn't play either if I'm not 100% feeling right and if the Spurs did misdiagnose me so I'm not sure what to make of that. But there is something to be said for an organization which is always tight lipped to be venting their frustrations the way the Spurs have been. So again, I wouldn't hate it but I wouldn't love it either. I'd love it more if we traded Barnes for something that fit better in the event that we had a deal in place for Kawhi.

Now if we trade for Kawhi and sign Cousins(I rly don't like Cousins but with Kawhi I'd want to go full steam with getting the most talent possible and the odds of getting him go up significantly with Kawhi) and trade Barnes in a SnT for Gordon or maybe I'd even go for Ibaka if he was paired with Cousins. DSJ SG Kawhi Gordon/Ibaka Cousins. That is a team that can prolly do some damage. Not sure if it's possible to keep Matthews with the salaries unless we can trade Powell and others to free up room, with Kawhi and Cousins I'd love to have Wes still here honestly if possible. If it's not possible maybe we go for someone like Reddick for short term or Barton(prolly too expensive) and to a lesser extent KCP depending on exceptions and shit. I promise no illegal drugs were used during/before this post.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

And to be fair he has missed now 151 games out of his 7 years. 73 of them came this year but that is still almost 80 games missed in 6 years. And allegedly part of the Spurs frustration is that he never likes to play with any sort of bruise, sprain, discomfort etc.

Pssst....its the Spurs, a lot of these DNP were the usual rest and not an injury.

And last year in the playoffs i read that Kawhi wanted to play but the Spurs didnt let him...