Missed trade opportunities

[sefant77]

I have to say, we probably missed out a LOT of good trades in the last 1-2 years.

Like everyone said, we missed out to sell high Josh and Terry.

Kaman, Ellis, G. Wallace, just a few names.

Im pretty sure Kaman for Josh was available a year ago. I even think we had the chance to get Ellis during the summer when they drafted Curry. Josh+Barea and pick/cash for Ellis.

A Wallace-Josh swap was probably also availabe 1-2 years ago, when Wallace was on the trading block.

[LonghornDub]

Awesome thread.

[Dirkenstien]

I believe one rumored deal was the Clippers offered Kaman and Davis for Kidd. That's a tough one but we'd definitely be a more talented team now if we did make that deal.

[mavsfan4lyfe201]

i would not of traded kidd for kaman and davis, its improvent at the 5 but davis gets injured way too often..

and i hate to say it as well, but we are the worst god damn team at making trades, and aquiring pieces that help us. it really is sad. donnie nelson jr is god awful at running the show.

dirk has bailed out this team year in year out, however ill give credit to jet for his clutch shots.

but this year is gonna be another lost one without imrpovement at the 2.

we can wait on the 5 til this summer when damp expires.

[jayC]

6-1 in games decided by three points or less. 16-11 against teams with records above .500.

Call me crazy but we are pretty damn good. Kidd Jho Marion and Dirk haven't played with each other for forty games. Aren't we jumping the gun a little bit on lateral moves.

[mavsfan4lyfe201]

hell no, howard needs to get out. i once loved his game but hes just an injury prone guy and id give it a 75% chance he gets injured before the playoffs. also hes not a 2.

we need a real 2. who can stroke it and be dirks 2nd scoring option. also somoene kidd can thrive with....we need iggy.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by mavsfan4lyfe201

i would not of traded kidd for kaman and davis, its improvent at the 5 but davis gets injured way too often..

and i hate to say it as well, but we are the worst god damn team at making trades, and aquiring pieces that help us. it really is sad. donnie nelson jr is god awful at running the show.

dirk has bailed out this team year in year out, however ill give credit to jet for his clutch shots.

but this year is gonna be another lost one without imrpovement at the 2.

we can wait on the 5 til this summer when damp expires.

seeing as how we wouldn't have made a kaman/davis trade for jkiddo I have to agree we stink at making trades.

[mavsfan4lyfe201]

yeah kaman would help us offensively. but kidd is still a top notch pg. obv he aint deron or paul but hes right there with nash.

who wants barons long term contract?

you need to think about the future, so if this trade didnt work out so well, wed be stuck with these long contracts.

[Robillion]

Personally, I would have done Kaman + Davis for Kidd in a heartbeat.

[d.rix]

kidd for baron an kaman. that would been a great deal for us. all im saying is BOSH SUMMER 2010

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by mavsfan4lyfe201

yeah kaman would help us offensively. but kidd is still a top notch pg. obv he aint deron or paul but hes right there with nash.

who wants barons long term contract?

you need to think about the future, so if this trade didnt work out so well, wed be stuck with these long contracts.

In two years there is no future. Dirks time is running out and the mavs don't get any more swings at it until it's torn down to nothing.

[Zki41]

Kidd for Kaman and Davis would have been great if there was an understanding for Kidd to return when he was a free agent. Essentially we would have gotten two players for free ... but also completely destroy Mark Cubans bankroll. Still, Davis + Kaman + whoever we trade Josh for + Dust Chip + Kidd/Dirk/Marion/JET = ring?

[Lor20]

shoulda coulda woulda.... kinda pointless

[Maverick4124]

3 in a row guys!? Unacceptable! Let's get something done Cuban!

[Dtownsfinest]

So with the Kaman and Davis deal what was the problem? Was it because the Mavs didn't want to take on the salary or what? Because I still can't even believe that deal was on the table. You take on salary but IMO it was worth it to get Kaman. But its Cuban's money and if he's trying to cut costs then a Kaman and Davis move wasn't available for us to make. But if he didn't do it because of the 2010 free agent class? Bad move.

[SMC0007]

I was one of the very very few that were interested in S Jax. 21/5/4 would be pretty nice.




Mavs missed chance with Jackson
February, 3, 2010 Feb 310:09AM CTComment Email Print Share By Tim MacMahon

The Mavs are aggressively exploring the market leading up to the Feb. 18 trade deadline. They let a prime opportunity pass by earlier this season.

Wouldn't the Mavs be in much better shape if they traded for Stephen Jackson?

The Golden State Warriors, who are in town tonight, dealt Jackson to the Charlotte Bobcats for Raja Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic. That's not close to an even talent trade. The disgruntled Jackson forced the Warriors' hand, and they basically dumped his salary.

At the time, the Mavs thought they were too crowded at the 2 and 3 spots to add Jackson to the mix. They never imagined Josh Howard would be this unproductive. Plus, the Mavs didn't want to take on Jackson's contract, which will pay him $28 million over the next three seasons.

That contract doesn't look so bad, considering the higher-priced options in the current trade market. And the Mavs, one of the teams on Jackson's wish list, could have offered the Warriors a package that made more financial sense than the one they accepted from Charlotte.

Jackson probably wouldn't have put up the numbers he has in Charlotte (21.2 points, 5.0 rebounds, 3.6 assists) for the Mavs. But the Mavs could definitely use a versatile proven veteran with Jackson's all-around game, scoring ability and swagger.

And the Mavs know all too well that Jackson shines on the playoff stage, having been burnt by him when he was with the San Antonio Spurs and Warriors.

The addition of Jackson has made the Bobcats, a perennial lottery team, a playoff contender. Who knows what he could have done for Dallas?


http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks

[jthig32]

Please include links when posting articles in full.

SJax is still too much of a wild card to commit that kind of money to.

[SMC0007]

I usually do post links but I guess I forgot.

I don't think he is a wild card as far as performance goes. Things seem to be going well enough in Charlotte. You replace Josh with Jax and we aren't talking about desperately making a move right now to be legit contenders. Would we be good enough to beat LA? eh maybe not but IMO we would be clearly 2nd in the west and have the most potential to challenge them.

[jthig32]

I think Stephen Jackson is only marginally better than the Josh we thought we were going to have this season. He's not the upgrade Kevin Martin or Iguodala would be, imo.

So if I could go back in time, would I make the trade? Maybe. But I don't really blame the Mavs for passing.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by jthig32

I think Stephen Jackson is only marginally better than the Josh we thought we were going to have this season. He's not the upgrade Kevin Martin or Iguodala would be, imo.

So if I could go back in time, would I make the trade? Maybe. But I don't really blame the Mavs for passing.

Yeah, I'm not sure he is the upgrade Kevin Martin would be who I think is a slight step up from Iggy, at least on the offensive end. Imo Iggy and Jackson are really close as far as all the other aspects of the game. I do agree with the article that Jackson would bring a much needed swagger, and personally I think he and Marions attitudes would mesh pretty well.

I would obviously do it if I could go back but I get why it was a risky move then. Can't really blame them but looking back it looks like it qualifys as a missed opportunity.

[Nowitzki4President]

Someone mentioned the Kaman/Davis for Kidd trade. To be honest, I don't think Kaman was necessarily a missed opportunity. I honestly think if we have a realistic shot of getting anyone this summer, it's a guy who isn't a FA. And that man's named is Chris Freakin' Kaman. With the DUST Chip of course....

[PartywithDirk]

Kobe Bryant for Devin Harris and Josh Howard....THAT was a missed trade.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by PartywithDirk

Kobe Bryant for Devin Harris and Josh Howard....THAT was a missed trade.

Because nobody ever offered it?

Meet my friend, the little red box...

[GermanDunk]

Na, don´t feed the tramps

[Strokepod]

Would love to see Kaman in a Mavs uniform, would love to be able to put together a package that didn't require the dust chip.

[PartywithDirk]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Because nobody ever offered it?

Meet my friend, the little red box...

It was a joke man. Hence the smiley face.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by PartywithDirk

It was a joke man. Hence the smiley face.

Oh, hahahahahahaha.


<---this is my sarcastic face

[DirkFTW]

Remember when we could have broken the bank for Billups?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

Remember when we could have broken the bank for Billups?

[Mavericks Rockets Fan]

Remember back when we could have traded Robert Traylor for Dirk Nowitzki and Pat Garrity for Steve Nash? I think we really missed out on those...