With the #3 pick (!) in the 2018 draft, the Mavs get Luka Doncic - Page 8 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Budapest Maverick · 07-17-2018, 05:18 PM

Even ignoring his hectic last two years, it doesn't do anything to play Luka in the summer league, it's like making a chess grandmaster sit down and play checkers. Just doesn't make any sense.

MFFL · 07-18-2018, 05:27 PM

Some love for Doncic

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/07/1...tion=blogtable

MFFL · 07-22-2018, 06:27 PM

Doncic favorite to win ROY

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2018/7...rd-next-season

Underdog · 07-22-2018, 07:44 PM

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Doncic favorite to win ROY

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2018/7...rd-next-season

Makes sense, considering he's the draft pick with the most pro experience -- the learning curve isn't going to be a steep for him as others... I doubt he hits the rookie wall after what he's gone through in EuroLeague.

MFFL · 07-22-2018, 08:29 PM

As the article talked about - its all about the number of wins the Mavs have. If we are roughly 500 and he's having a good year stats wise then I think he will win

EricaLubarsky · 07-22-2018, 09:23 PM

So much pressure. If dude doesn’t come in and have 15-20 pts in game one people will talk about him as a failure

SMC0007 · 07-22-2018, 09:34 PM

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So much pressure. If dude doesn’t come in and have 15-20 pts in game one people will talk about him as a failure

Hes the goat if he comes out first game and go 30/7/10

tap2390 · 07-22-2018, 10:10 PM

IMO Wendell Carter will take the award. He is plugging in to an established young group with a stretch four that will give him a lot of space to work.

Ayton has a lot going on around him in terms of establishing a dynamic with Booker and incorporating all their new guys.

Bagley doesn’t have enough spacing around him in Sacramento to make a significant impact.

Doncic will progressively get better but will struggle with his shot at times. This first year he’ll be a much better passer than scorer.

Knox is too raw. Sexton is the only perimeter player you have to defend in Cleveland. Trae Young is going to get cooked on defense.

Underdog · 07-23-2018, 06:54 PM

@bobbykaralla: Luka Doncic has played 208 professional games since the beginning of the 2015-16 season. That's more than a lot of NBA players. He's definitely going to learn, adjust, face challenges, grow, etc. but it's going to be weird to watch such an experienced rookie.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-23-2018, 07:16 PM

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@bobbykaralla: Luka Doncic has played 208 professional games since the beginning of the 2015-16 season. That's more than a lot of NBA players. He's definitely going to learn, adjust, face challenges, grow, etc. but it's going to be weird to watch such an experienced rookie.

I think people should absolutely temper expectations. I've been one of his biggest skeptics, and it's still going to take time for him to be what people think he'll be right off the bat.

That said, he most certainly looks like a euro version of James Harden in so many aspects that it's kinda scary. Add 3 inches to that and we're likely in for a treat.

We just have to hope that the talent will make up for the lack of quickness and athleticism. I think so since the talent is pretty yuge.

Budapest Maverick · 07-26-2018, 07:33 AM

Luka is a very good athlete, actually, you will be surprised DWS. He has elite level coordination and good lateral speed, it's just that he is not vertically explosive, but since he has a surprisingly big reach for a Euro guard, even that won't be much of a problem. The second half of the season he was slower than he usually is, he was very tired in 2018 because he played basically non-stop in the last 2 years. I expect him to be much "springier" this fall.

https://twitter.com/P3sportscience/s...66270219534336

Underdog · 07-27-2018, 07:04 PM

@ringer: The return the #Hawks received in exchange for Luka Doncic was pretty, pretty bad... Video: https://twitter.com/ringer/status/1022991272552759296

lotus5944 · 07-27-2018, 07:56 PM

Funny Luka Doncic videoclip: https://youtu.be/vIeYWYWAbbk

NeedlesKane · 07-27-2018, 09:37 PM

Nice 5 year plan. We better be hearing some Jennifer Aniston news so that we know he's on track.

Underdog · 07-27-2018, 09:56 PM

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Nice 5 year plan. We better be hearing some Jennifer Aniston news so that we know he's on track.

Is it news that Jennifer Aniston is 7 years older than Luka’s mom? Someone needs to tell this kid that Friends aired back before he was born...

NeedlesKane · 07-27-2018, 10:32 PM

And? Ashton Kutcher was married to Demi Moore. They got married when he was 27, and she was 43. Heck, I think my aunt and uncle were 24 years apart. My aunt is the same age as my uncle's oldest from his first marriage. Also she's currently separated. The kid's got a shot!

Underdog · 07-28-2018, 06:22 PM

Doncic is huge overseas... This kid freaked out over his birthday cake.
https://twitter.com/arevaloemilioej/...43358813581314

rimrocker · 07-30-2018, 11:00 AM

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Luka is a very good athlete, actually, you will be surprised DWS. He has elite level coordination and good lateral speed, it's just that he is not vertically explosive, but since he has a surprisingly big reach for a Euro guard, even that won't be much of a problem. The second half of the season he was slower than he usually is, he was very tired in 2018 because he played basically non-stop in the last 2 years. I expect him to be much "springier" this fall.

https://twitter.com/P3sportscience/s...66270219534336

I saw some vid clips a while back before we drafted him that showed some of his better defensive plays. Obviously the foot work is sub-par but he has decent hands defensively similar to Kidd and Dirk. Seems to have pretty strong hands which isn't so surprising and seemed to get his hands on a lot of passes...probably great anticipation skills.

Certainly won't be an elite defender but I don't think he will be a defensive liability that some seem to think he will be.

Underdog · 07-31-2018, 07:09 PM

Overseas players dish on playing against Mavs rookie Luka Doncic: 'It's similar to Manu Ginobili'
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...-manu-ginobili

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"I doubt 99 percent of this year's draft class could do what he did in the EuroLeague this season," Jackson said. "I think he is super talented, man. The sky's the limit for the kid. To do what he's done this entire year on the EuroLeague level is big time."

thewizard · 07-31-2018, 09:48 PM

Luka hitting the gym

rimrocker · 08-01-2018, 11:26 AM

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Luka hitting the gym

Might just be the pic but the waistline is almost more impressive than the biceps. Hopefully he has shed the baby fat and is in great shape.

This kid could really become something special.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-01-2018, 01:04 PM

Pretty amazing he did that in just a month. Just shows what you can do physically when you put your mind to it.

...now back to fortnite. Pew pew!

Murphy3 · 08-01-2018, 01:11 PM

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Overseas players dish on playing against Mavs rookie Luka Doncic: 'It's similar to Manu Ginobili'
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...-manu-ginobili

Ha..not really glowing praise from Little Whistle.

Budapest Maverick · 08-02-2018, 03:11 AM

We did a podcast with Marvin Williams (English talk starts at around 2:40) and he talked a little bit about Luka towards the end.

https://soundcloud.com/user-96101431...arvin-williams

Luka's Mom · 08-03-2018, 10:46 AM

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Ha..not really glowing praise from Little Whistle.

I think it's the dominance what's being compared here. Ginobili became a Euroleague champion, Finals MVP, and was the leading scorer in the Finals in the 2001 Euroleague season. He also became the Italian league MVP that year. Super dominant performance. But he was like 23 years old back then.

AO41 · 08-04-2018, 08:09 AM

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I think it's the dominance what's being compared here. Ginobili became a Euroleague champion, Finals MVP, and was the leading scorer in the Finals in the 2001 Euroleague season. He also became the Italian league MVP that year. Super dominant performance. But he was like 23 years old back then.

I am not sure what Murphy is referring to but a comparison to Ginobili is more that height praise. I think because he has gotten older and his role has diminished its easy to forget how good he actually was and at times unstoppable.

FreshJive · 08-04-2018, 01:35 PM

Murphy is referring to Donnie’s (Little Whistle) comment about what position “if any” can Luka guard.

Luka's Mom · 08-04-2018, 02:37 PM

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I am not sure what Murphy is referring to but a comparison to Ginobili is more that height praise. I think because he has gotten older and his role has diminished its easy to forget how good he actually was and at times unstoppable.

He topped out as a 20ppg scorer in his peak, but I think on a weaker team he could have even averaged 25-27 points. Fantastic scorer.

AO41 · 08-04-2018, 03:34 PM

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Murphy is referring to Donnie’s (Little Whistle) comment about what position “if any” can Luka guard.

I did find that comment strange but if I remember correctly it was before the draft? ...soo maybe didn't want to give away that we were so high on Luka.

AO41 · 08-04-2018, 03:35 PM

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He topped out as a 20ppg scorer in his peak, but I think on a weaker team he could have even averaged 25-27 points. Fantastic scorer.

That and his style of play and energy were always great.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-06-2018, 08:41 AM

Luke Ankle Breaker Doncic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6jOX842KAU

SMC0007 · 08-06-2018, 10:04 AM

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Luke Ankle Breaker Doncic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6jOX842KAU

The defense was never close to touching the ball while he was dribbling

. One of the things I like most about his handles is that he really doesn't carry while he's making his moves. I saw it a few times here and there, but it's nowhere near Harden or any other top guys with handles, where their dribble moves and penetration seem to be predicated on carrying or palming the ball. I hope they start cracking down on this rule more often.

EricaLubarsky · 08-06-2018, 12:28 PM

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The defense was never close to touching the ball while he was dribbling

. One of the things I like most about his handles is that he really doesn't carry while he's making his moves. I saw it a few times here and there, but it's nowhere near Harden or any other top guys with handles, where their dribble moves and penetration seem to be predicated on carrying or palming the ball. I hope they start cracking down on this rule more often.

Eurostep 2.0

Getting a huge swath of court claimed without picking up the ball is a huge advantage for the offensive player. US players do it with the dribble-- or, more often, the palm, often resulting in the turnover at the top of the key.

SMC0007 · 08-06-2018, 02:07 PM

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Eurostep 2.0

Getting a huge swath of court claimed without picking up the ball is a huge advantage for the offensive player. US players do it with the dribble-- or, more often, the palm, often resulting in the turnover at the top of the key.

The problem is all the palming is never called. Yes, it is a huge unfair advantage.

EricaLubarsky · 08-06-2018, 03:03 PM

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The problem is all the palming is never called. Yes, it is a huge unfair advantage.

Yeah superstar calls on screens and palms/switched pivot foot are the two worst things about the NBA.

MavzMan · 08-06-2018, 04:34 PM

Superstar calls are just the worst thing in the NBA. If you don't have at least a top 10 player or maybe even top 5, then you have no hope of winning a championship.

Underdog · 08-06-2018, 08:30 PM

No pressure, kid...

@ESPNNBA: Luka Doncic is the clear favorite for our panelists, but who do you think will be this season's ROY?

EricaLubarsky · 08-06-2018, 09:13 PM

Poor Trae

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-06-2018, 09:32 PM

The implosion in Mavs land if Doncic averages 9/3/3 his rookie year.

Budapest Maverick · 08-07-2018, 08:08 AM

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The implosion in Mavs land if Doncic averages 9/3/3 his rookie year.

13/6/5 is his floor, he is one of the most NBA-ready prospects in the last decade with a game that is tailor-made for the pace and space.