Najera A Mav Again? - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

craggmac · 02-21-2007, 11:45 AM

Ok, once again, I'm not an ESPN insider so all this says to me is that the Mavs are persuing Najera again.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/featu...tures%2frumors
If your an Insider, feel free to spread some love and share the details!

craggmac · 02-21-2007, 11:47 AM

Incase you didn't notice, it metioned that the Mavs are also interested in PJ Brown.

mkat · 02-21-2007, 11:53 AM

i'd love to see najera back here. always liked him...not the best player, but you can tell he gives 110%.

bernardos70 · 02-21-2007, 12:12 PM

Someone wake up Murphy, he must be having a wet dream right now.

akaarod03 · 02-21-2007, 12:13 PM

From ESPN Insider:

"NBA sources say the Dallas Mavericks have been pursuing a deal to acquire Nuggets forward Ed uardo Najera. The deal could involve Mavs guard Anthony Johnson."

Where do I sign?

mkat · 02-21-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by akaarod03

From ESPN Insider:

"NBA sources say the Dallas Mavericks have been pursuing a deal to acquire Nuggets forward Ed uardo Najera. The deal could involve Mavs guard Anthony Johnson."

Where do I sign?

espn trade machine says it wouldn't work. hopefully that machine is wrong.

thurst0509 · 02-21-2007, 12:19 PM

I love Eddie. I would be thrilled to see him wear a Mavs uniform again!!

WurzburgBorn · 02-21-2007, 12:34 PM

yo quiero Eduardo. Anthony Johnson es muy malo.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-21-2007, 12:35 PM

I would freak...so would everyone in the area. Viva Najera!!!!! I hate trade rumors, but any mention of Eddie and I'm all giggles.

bernardos70 · 02-21-2007, 12:36 PM

Eddie! F*** you! You're the F*** you man....... Kiss by black a**!

u2sarajevo · 02-21-2007, 12:48 PM

Straight up it doesn't work because of the salaries. Using ESPN trade checker the only combos I could come up with to make it work were undesirable. except for perhaps:

SuperSpareII and Greg Buckner for MurphyAche and Jamal Sampson

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-21-2007, 12:51 PM

AJ, Mo Ager, jjb/pops works for him.

jthig32 · 02-21-2007, 12:56 PM

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't give up AJ for Najera. If Devin Harris goe down, this team can still compete with AJ as its backup PG.

MavsX · 02-21-2007, 01:06 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmm

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-21-2007, 01:11 PM

Hmm the more I think, I wonder how many minutes Eddie would get. Maybe George is more iffy than being let on? Eddie would be terrific insurance. Who knows. Prob won't happen like 95% of rumors.

DubOverdose · 02-21-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't give up AJ for Najera. If Devin Harris goe down, this team can still compete with AJ as its backup PG.

Has JJB shown you enough that he can at least fill in? I think he has.

WurzburgBorn · 02-21-2007, 01:22 PM

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Has JJB shown you enough that he can at least fill in? I think he has.

I know not everyone would agree, but JJB's shown me enough that I'd rather have him out there than AJ2.

kg_veteran · 02-21-2007, 01:26 PM

Count me out of a deal that sends Super Spare for Najera. Why I'd trade one contingency plan for a weaker one is beyond me.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-21-2007, 01:43 PM

How about Cro for Eddie...they did want Van Horn.

jthig32 · 02-21-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Has JJB shown you enough that he can at least fill in? I think he has.

No, not a chance. It's all about the defense, and JJB can't play it.

DubOverdose · 02-21-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

No, not a chance. It's all about the defense, and JJB can't play it.

Can AJ do anything right on the court though? I think we could get past teams with JJB guarding the weaker guard and still maintain an offensive flow.

jthig32 · 02-21-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Can AJ do anything right on the court though? I think we could get past teams with JJB guarding the weaker guard and still maintain an offensive flow.

You're a bit too hard on AJ. He's not been great with the Mavs, but he's a solid backup PG and is quite good defensively.

JJB is not on the same level as AJ, at least not yet.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-21-2007, 02:51 PM

AJ2 is very overrated defensively. He gets schooled by smaller, quicker guards which make up most of the league these days.

jthig32 · 02-21-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

AJ2 is very overrated defensively. He gets schooled by smaller, quicker guards which make up most of the league these days.

He may be overrated defensively, but he is leaps and bounds better defensively than JJB right now.

craggmac · 02-21-2007, 03:48 PM

I personally would have no problem seeing AJ go. If something happened to Devin, lets not forget that Terry did a pretty good job at that position last year.

jthig32 · 02-21-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by craggmac

I personally would have no problem seeing AJ go. If something happened to Devin, lets not forget that Terry did a pretty good job at that position last year.

? At that position? They're both PG's. In fact Avery seems to be going more and more to the bigger lineups that use JET as the true PG again.

The problem is, if Devin goes down, and you've trade AJ, you're left with JJB as your backup PG.

Not a good idea.

Cybertx · 02-21-2007, 06:04 PM

AJ and AC cannot be traded until july.the only one that would work would be buckner/ager for najera/diawara or kleiza, i would this in a hertbeat diawara it's denver best defender and kleiza it's better than najera.

Silk Smoov · 02-21-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

? At that position? They're both PG's. In fact Avery seems to be going more and more to the bigger lineups that use JET as the true PG again.

The problem is, if Devin goes down, and you've trade AJ, you're left with JJB as your backup PG.

Not a good idea.

Count me out of the deal as well. AJ2 may be the best 3rd string true PG in the NBA. So, why trade him for someone who will be fighting for minutes? AJ2 is a good solid back-up, plus he plays solid defense on bigger guards..If it aint broke, dont fix it

jayC · 02-21-2007, 09:48 PM

PJ Brown would be a much better fit. The Mavs need a back up forward and center. Then again they have won 44 games.

SeriousSummer · 02-21-2007, 10:37 PM

Brown for Croshere & Ager works. Maybe the Bulls would think Ager still has enough potential to make the deal worthwhile. Cheap try for them anyway.

dude1394 · 02-21-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SeriousSummer

Brown for Croshere & Ager works. Maybe the Bulls would think Ager still has enough potential to make the deal worthwhile. Cheap try for them anyway.

Croshere+Ager+Pops!!!

wmbwinn · 02-21-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Silk Smoov

Count me out of the deal as well. AJ2 may be the best 3rd string true PG in the NBA. So, why trade him for someone who will be fighting for minutes? AJ2 is a good solid back-up, plus he plays solid defense on bigger guards..If it aint broke, dont fix it

When Eddie was a Mav, he was in the rotation of centers primarily. He occasionally backed up Dirk as a PF. But, mainly he was in the center rotation. At that time, we were rotating Alan Henderson, Najera, and another stiff (I forget his name now). We had Bradley as well. Dirk frequently played center. Anyway, our centers basically sucked. Henderson was probably the best rebounder of the group and was a solid defender of guys his size. But, Najera and Henderson would get beat badly by centers and PF's who were taller or who could jump higher. Najera and Henderson played very hard and gave a lot of effort. Sometimes Najera and Henderson played as SF's or PF's.

Anyway, if Henderson or Najera were on the team now, where would they play? They wouldn't be centers anymore for sure. They aren't offensive players so Croshere would still get the minutes as Dirk's backup.

Now, Najera playing next to Damp/Diop is a very solid paint defense proposition. I could see Najera playing a role against teams like the Clippers or Jazz. But, beyond those two potential series, I can't see the Dampier/Najera combo playing much.

AJ on the other hand is a tool for Avery. AJ is always there when Avery needs a defensive change to handle a bigger PG. AJ is also well rested. Don't forget that Armstrong played an important role in the playoffs in limited minutes. AJ is our newest Armstrong type player in some ways.

I don't know if Najera makes sense unless Avery is worried about the Jazz or Houston or Clippers. The other teams don't put enough beef in the paint to worry about.

Of course, if Shaq is healty again, then a Damp/Najera double would give Shaq fits. Maybe a Damp/Najera double would give Yao fits too. If that is the thought, then this might make sense.

mkat · 02-22-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Croshere+Ager+Pops!!!

i think pops has too much upside to let him go this early.

DevinHarriswillstart · 02-22-2007, 05:35 AM

Pops does have Way too much upside. In fact, he is a Najera basically. I didn't think on that at first. Not really worth taking on any bigger contracts then we have to I suppose.