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escobar317 · 04-21-2016, 11:50 PM

Just gonna leave this here:

Kevin Durant
Al Horford
Dwyane Wade
Mike Conley
Hassan Whiteside
Rajon Rondo
Nicolas Batum
Al Jefferson
Ryan Anderson
Joakim Noah
Zaza Pachulia
Evan Turner
Bazegod Bazemore
Jamal Crawford
Luol Deng
Jeff Green
Eric Gordon
Roy Hibbert
Brandon Jennings
Courtney Lee
Ian Mahinmi
Timofey Mozgov
Ty Lawson
Joe Johnson
NeNe
Mario Chalmers
Mirza Teletovic
OJ Mayo
Matt Barnes
K. Martin
Ish Smith
Mo Buckets
Luis Scola
Jared Thudley
Gerald Green
Josh Smith

GermanStandard · 04-22-2016, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by escobar317

Just gonna leave this here:

Kevin Durant
Al Horford
Dwyane Wade
Mike Conley
Hassan Whiteside
Rajon Rondo
Nicolas Batum
Al Jefferson
Ryan Anderson
Joakim Noah
Zaza Pachulia
Evan Turner
Bazegod Bazemore
Jamal Crawford
Luol Deng
Jeff Green
Eric Gordon
Roy Hibbert
Brandon Jennings
Courtney Lee
Ian Mahinmi
Timofey Mozgov
Ty Lawson
Joe Johnson
NeNe
Mario Chalmers
Mirza Teletovic
OJ Mayo
Matt Barnes
K. Martin
Ish Smith
Mo Buckets
Luis Scola
Jared Thudley
Gerald Green
Josh Smith

Looks pretty bad because Durant will either stay in OKC or go to a glamour city (Lakers probably).

Basically there is only Horford, Whiteside, Batum and Conley that i want here and that are starting material.

The rest are role players and Wade wont go anywhere.

I also like Evan Turner of that list.

nodir41 · 04-22-2016, 01:16 AM

i guess we might get:
Hibbert
Zaza
Mo Williams or Kevin Martin
Batum (if parsons does not resign)

Again not a contender next year...

rimrocker · 04-22-2016, 07:26 PM

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i guess we might get:
Hibbert
Zaza
Mo Williams or Kevin Martin
Batum (if parsons does not resign)

Again not a contender next year...

Hibbert was my first thought...not because I want him but seems the type of consolation prize we will end up with after pursuing Howard or Whiteside.

I'm wondering what Mozgov is going to get....he might be an option at center at hopefully a bargain price if we can improve in a different area.
Must admit I've only seen him play a few times but looks pretty active and very big.

sefant77 · 04-22-2016, 07:33 PM

I would bet money that Batum signs with the Spurs. Parker is there, Spurs have max cap and Batum would be a great fit.

So cross Batum off the list.

BPo001 · 04-22-2016, 08:21 PM

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I would bet money that Batum signs with the Spurs. Parker is there, Spurs have max cap and Batum would be a great fit.

So cross Batum off the list.

They have this guy named Kawhi Leonard at SF. Heard he's pretty good. Batum is probably going to get a near max or max contract. Doubt he goes to SA.

escobar317 · 04-22-2016, 09:23 PM

Bazemore
Jeff Green
ish smith
ty lawson
B. Jennings

Carlise could work magic with green or bazemore.

I also want a scorer that can create his own shot. I love Wesely, but I always cringe when he has the ball with 6 seconds left in the shot clock only to step back, pump fake and get blocked.

rimrocker · 04-22-2016, 10:08 PM

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I also want a scorer that can create his own shot.

Wouldn't Parsons address that?

Also, what about Lawson? He was a decent PG with Denver but not sure how he'd fit Rick's system.
Didn't we have some interest in him before DWill signed?

I'd be shocked if DWill signs with someone other than Dallas though so wouldn't surprise me if DWill/Barea/Harris are our PGs next season.

sefant77 · 04-23-2016, 08:40 AM

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They have this guy named Kawhi Leonard at SF. Heard he's pretty good. Batum is probably going to get a near max or max contract. Doubt he goes to SA.

Batum could easily start at SG, he is mobile enough.Specially since Green fell off a cliff.

They could also play some smallball lineups with Parker-Green-Batum-Leonard-LMA.

He is a typical Pop player and a friend of Parker.

escobar317 · 04-23-2016, 04:09 PM

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Wouldn't Parsons address that?

Some games he can slowflow his way past a defender, but against any athletic SF and some PF's he can't buy a shot.

I do like Lawson though. He's better at getting past guys than Barea and D Will.

TheSportyChannel · 04-23-2016, 05:08 PM

Anyone but Johnny Manziel 2.0

1st option

Conley
Matthews
Anderson
Dirk
Howard

2nd option

Deron
Matthews
Batum
Dirk
Whiteside

BPo001 · 04-23-2016, 05:43 PM

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Anyone but Johnny Manziel 2.0

1st option

Conley
Matthews
Anderson
Dirk
Howard

2nd option

Deron
Matthews
Batum
Dirk
Whiteside

How is Parsons Manziel 2.0?

spreedom · 04-23-2016, 11:29 PM

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How is Parsons Manziel 2.0?

Pretty please stop quoting that idiotic troll. How has he not gotten banned yet? He's a shit-stirrer who isn't even trying to add to any conversations.

Back on topic, here are players with options this summer that are also worth noting:

Omitting the guys that obviously aren't coming here (LeBron, Duncan, Ginobili) there are some really interesting guys on this list: Dwight, DeRozan, Pau Gasol, Biyombo, Lin, Mo Williams... all guys that would be worth bringing in for the right role and the right price.

Thebo · 04-24-2016, 02:54 AM

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Omitting the guys that obviously aren't coming here (LeBron, Duncan, Ginobili) there are some really interesting guys on this list: Dwight, DeRozan, Pau Gasol, Biyombo, Lin, Mo Williams... all guys that would be worth bringing in for the right role and the right price.

DeRozan will probably demand a max and I guess he will be changing teams this summer. There is no real reason for him not to, unless Raptors max him out.

Gasol's defense is pretty bad. Might as well keep Zaza. Unless of course Pau comes cheap but I guess he will be chasing that ring.

Biyombo will not see minutes under RC, although I like his defense. He also plays similar role to Powell - no use to have both.

Mo Williams would do fine under RC system. I do think that PG position should come down to Lin or Mo Williams. Everyone else just does not seem to fit.

MavzMan · 04-25-2016, 07:46 AM

I've enjoyed watching Scola play for a long time. It would be awesome to have him come here and play his 10 mpg as backup C/PF.

That list is really a bunch of slightly above average players that are going to seriously cash in for a payday they will never be able to live up to. Then halfway through the season, start watching the rumors page because most of the legit players in this league will start complaining about player X is making more than me and I'm better than him. It's gonna be 3rd grade elementary.

Melonhead · 04-25-2016, 10:44 AM

The good thing is we have some pieces this time around. Anderson and Salah are solid backups. Parsons will resign. Felton will move on unfortunately. A lot depends on deron. I'd say it's a decent chance he starts next year with Dallas. A starting center is what we probably need most. With a backup 4 that can rebound.

MavzMan · 04-25-2016, 11:51 AM

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backup 4 that can rebound.

I still believe Powell can fill more backup 4 minutes. His defense will improve with just experience as he already plays hard. I would like to see him work on open shots for offense.

AO41 · 04-25-2016, 12:44 PM

Always like what Jeff Green has to offer and I think Carlisle would bring the best out of him unlike some of his other coaches.

We let Parson GO
We trade Matthews to Chicago for Butler or to Toronto sign and trade for DeRozen

PG: Jennings or trade for Schroder/ Felton/ JJ
SG: Butler or Derozen
SF: Anderson/ Jeff Green
PF: Dirk/ R. Anderson/ Powell
C: Hortford/ Mejri

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-25-2016, 12:54 PM

I'd go after Whiteside pretty hard. All of these opinions that his stats are empty look pretty silly with his playoff performance so far.

Melonhead · 04-25-2016, 01:17 PM

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Always like what Jeff Green has to offer and I think Carlisle would bring the best out of him unlike some of his other coaches.

We let Parson GO
We trade Matthews to Chicago for Butler or to Toronto sign and trade for DeRozen

PG: Jennings or trade for Schroder/ Felton/ JJ
SG: Butler or Derozen
SF: Anderson/ Jeff Green
PF: Dirk/ R. Anderson/ Powell
C: Hortford/ Mejri

For it possibly being Dirk's last season I don't see there being that much turnover in the roster. I know we have to look towards the future but we have some solid guys in Matthews and Parsons with the ability to grow. I've followed Jeff green since college but I don't know if he's the long term answer at SF. I do think Carlisle could bring the best out of him though.

MavzMan · 04-25-2016, 02:47 PM

And neither of those trades of Matthews for Butler or DeRozen would be accepted by their teams both of which are near franchise players for their teams right now.

rimrocker · 04-25-2016, 03:22 PM

I still think we end up with the current roster minus McGee, Charlie, Zaza, Felton and Lee plus Howard and some other vet min guys and/or rookies.

spreedom · 04-25-2016, 03:30 PM

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I still think we end up with the current roster minus McGee, Charlie, Zaza, Felton and Lee plus Howard and some other vet min guys and/or rookies.

I think McGee is very likely to stick around unless he is literally the difference between adding Howard and missing out on him. He has a really cheap team option for next year and he's probably worth it even if be plays very limited minutes. JMO

rimrocker · 04-25-2016, 04:22 PM

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I think McGee is very likely to stick around unless he is literally the difference between adding Howard and missing out on him. He has a really cheap team option for next year and he's probably worth it even if be plays very limited minutes. JMO

Even at a bargain I'm not sure why we'd keep a guy who is in his prime and provides something we can use but can't get any PT. I'm sure there must be an underlying issue that leads me to believe we'll move on from McGee after this season.
If Rick isn't going to play him he's just a wasted roster spot that could be taken by someone we could attempt to develop.

yahyes · 04-25-2016, 10:05 PM

Is it possible for Al Hordford to play PF too? I want us to look into signing him. Replace some guys. Keep most.

turin · 04-26-2016, 07:54 AM

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I think McGee is very likely to stick around unless he is literally the difference between adding Howard and missing out on him. He has a really cheap team option for next year and he's probably worth it even if be plays very limited minutes. JMO

I can't imagine why McGee would stick around. He's finally got some good health going, and he's in his prime. Why the hell stick around for a franchise that won't put you on the court? I'd get the hell out of Dodge as fast as I could if I were him.

bunkmoreland · 04-26-2016, 08:15 AM

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I can't imagine why McGee would stick around. He's finally got some good health going, and he's in his prime. Why the hell stick around for a franchise that won't put you on the court? I'd get the hell out of Dodge as fast as I could if I were him.

Don't the Mavs have him under a team option for next year?
Also, who would sign him? China?

Melonhead · 04-26-2016, 08:25 AM

What's up with the chances at whiteside? I don't really buy the empty stats the guy plays hard and can rebound and alter shots. I want a good center next season with mejri backup.

MavzMan · 04-26-2016, 08:35 AM

Miami will more than likely keep Whiteside unless DWade demands too much money and they can't afford him. But I think he likes playing with that team and they fit personality-wise.

Horford will get max money. Parson will get max money. DH will probably get a max offer, not sure if he would play where he gets it though. Probably the biggest thing to keep in mind is that every single free agent this year will be overpaid. The guys that would normally get $7-10 mill are going to be getting 15-18. Supply and demand. Lots of demand and short supply of free agents this year.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 09:26 AM

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Miami will more than likely keep Whiteside unless DWade demands too much money and they can't afford him. But I think he likes playing with that team and they fit personality-wise.

Horford will get max money. Parson will get max money. DH will probably get a max offer, not sure if he would play where he gets it though. Probably the biggest thing to keep in mind is that every single free agent this year will be overpaid. The guys that would normally get $7-10 mill are going to be getting 15-18. Supply and demand. Lots of demand and short supply of free agents this year.

If the Hawks lose first round to the Celtics I could bet Horford will leave Atlanta. That's where the Mavs can try giving him an offer to add another player since the cap goes up. I would mostly consider him.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 09:29 AM

Is it possible we do a sign and trade with one of our players to get a draft pick? Or even to trade a player under contract like Devin? It would be good for the team to at least draft one player this year.

rimrocker · 04-26-2016, 09:44 AM

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If the Hawks lose first round to the Celtics I could bet Horford will leave Atlanta. That's where the Mavs can try giving him an offer to add another player since the cap goes up. I would mostly consider him.

Horford and Mejri could be a decent fit together next season.
Would love to pursue him but think other teams will be more attractive.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 01:51 PM

Ryan Anderson would be a nice pickup to replace Charlie. Eric Gordon also intrigues me if he doesn't mind playing off the bench. That'll add more offense.

BPo001 · 04-26-2016, 02:26 PM

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Ryan Anderson would be a nice pickup to replace Charlie. Eric Gordon also intrigues me if he doesn't mind playing off the bench. That'll add more offense.

He'll be on the bench alright. Prob in street clothes because he's hurt.

rimrocker · 04-26-2016, 03:33 PM

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Ryan Anderson would be a nice pickup to replace Charlie. Eric Gordon also intrigues me if he doesn't mind playing off the bench. That'll add more offense.

I'd love Ryan Anderson but not for what he'd probably cost us.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 03:35 PM

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He'll be on the bench alright. Prob in street clothes because he's hurt.

That's what I'm wondering about his health. Pair him up with let's say Wes. You have a dangerous guard combo if he's healthy. The guy has the offense that can be better than what Terry used to bring us. Not to mention he's still not old yet.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 03:47 PM

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I'd love Ryan Anderson but not for what he'd probably cost us.

Not much since cap has gone up. Also his value went down. He'd be a solid replacement for Charlie. Which helps for Lee on getting a 2 year.

rimrocker · 04-26-2016, 04:03 PM

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Not much since cap has gone up. Also his value went down. He'd be a solid replacement for Charlie. Which helps for Lee on getting a 2 year.

Really? I'm hearing that dude's market value will be north of $15m.
I love the guy and think he would be a great fit in Rick's system but we need an impact player which I don't think he would be.
Also, I think we are way too soft with Dirk, Parsons and RA.

yahyes · 04-26-2016, 05:39 PM

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Really? I'm hearing that dude's market value will be north of $15m.
I love the guy and think he would be a great fit in Rick's system but we need an impact player which I don't think he would be.
Also, I think we are way too soft with Dirk, Parsons and RA.

Well, you'd definitely have better finesse and shooting. I could see Horford be the impact player as far as rebounds and perhaps Dirk passes the torch to him.

Melonhead · 04-26-2016, 08:22 PM

If the Hawks blow the first round, count me in on Horford. Thats the "star" that could bring this entire team together. Will he work alongside Parsons though? Parsons game is fickle with centers.

Deron/JJ
Wes/Harris
Parsons/Anderson/Wes
Dirk/Parsons/Powell
Horford/Mejri