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Old 07-28-2005, 08:19 PM   #1
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UK 'blocked bomb plotter' arrest
British police continue to make arrests in July 21 incidents

(CNN) -- About a month before the July 7 bombings in London, British authorities balked at giving U.S. officials permission to apprehend a man now believed to have ties to the bombers, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Haroon Rashid Aswat, 30, of Indian heritage, is currently in custody in Zambia, U.S. and Zambian officials told CNN.

U.S. authorities wanted to capture Aswat, who was then in South Africa, and question him about a 1999 plot to establish a "jihad training camp" in Bly, Oregon.

According to the sources, U.S. officials had located Aswat in South Africa weeks before the July 7 attacks that killed 52 bus and subway travelers and the four bombers.

U.S. authorities had asked South Africa if they could take Aswat into custody. South Africa relayed the request to Britain, but authorities there balked because he was a British citizen, the sources said. While the debate was ongoing, Aswat slipped away. (Full story)

British authorities now suspect Aswat lent support to the July 7 bombers.

According to U.S. officials, Aswat was an unindicted co-conspirator in the terrorist camp case, which resulted in a guilty plea in 2003 by the main defendant, James Ujaama, of Seattle, Washington. (Full story)

Meanwhile Thursday in Britain -- one week after failed attacks on London's transit system that appeared to imitate the July 7 bombings -- a nationwide manhunt focused on three of the suspected terrorists.

Authorities have taken 20 people in custody, including one of the suspected bombers, as part of the investigation into the July 21 attacks on three Underground trains and a double-decker bus.

Nine men were arrested in the Tooting area of south London early Thursday -- six at one address and three at another, according to Metropolitan Police. Searches at the addresses were ongoing.

But as those arrests were announced, the country's top police official said more attacks were possible if the three other suspects in the attempted bombings remained at large.

"It does remain possible that those at large will strike again," Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair said. "It does also remain possible that there are other cells who are capable and intent on striking again."

As part of its investigation into the attempted bombings, police have taken 1,800 witness statements, have received 5,000 calls to the terrorist tip line, and are examining 15,000 closed-circuit television tapes.

The British government also announced that the Brazilian man mistakenly shot and killed by police at an Underground station last week had a false stamp on his passport and had been in Britain for two years with an expired visa. (Full story)

Police arrested three women Wednesday night on suspicion of "harboring offenders" in connection with the July 21 plot.

They were taken from a south London apartment raided by armed police and remained in custody Thursday in central London.

Three neighbors told CNN that one of the suspected would-be bombers -- the one who allegedly tried to set off a bomb at the city's Shepherd's Bush Underground Station -- lived there, having recognized him in a new photo released by police.

Resident Donna Priestley Moore said two of the women arrested were accompanied by children, including a toddler and a baby.

The apartment building, known as Blair House, is in the Stockwell neighborhood near the Stockwell Underground station where the Shepherd's Bush Station bomber and two other suspected bombers boarded their trains.

Police released a new picture of the suspected Shepherd's Bush bomber on Wednesday. It shows him in a closed-circuit television image riding a bus nearly an hour and a half after police say he tried to detonate his bomb.

Police believe the man -- who was previously pictured at the Stockwell station carrying a backpack and wearing a dark blue England soccer shirt -- threw that shirt away after fleeing the station, leaving it on a road that runs parallel to the train tracks. He then rode a bus for 50 minutes.

"We need to know where he went when he got off the bus," said Peter Clarke, head of the Metropolitan Police Anti-Terrorist Branch.

Three would-be bombers hunted
Arrested Wednesday as a suspect in the July 21 attempts was Yasin Hassan Omar, 24, a Somali with British residency.

Omar -- arrested in Birmingham, 100 miles north of London -- is suspected of placing a backpack bomb at London's Warren Street Underground station.

Clarke said he resisted arrested and was subdued after being shot with a Taser "stun gun." No gunshots were fired.

There was no intelligence to suggest that there were explosives in the house, Clarke said. But about 100 nearby homes were evacuated as a precaution.

Clarke called Omar's arrest "an important development in the investigation." He was taken to the high-security Paddington Green police station in London.

Three other men were arrested at a another address in Birmingham about the same time early Wednesday morning and were taken to another station.

"The second attacks on the 21st of July should not be taken as some indication that the weakening of the capability or resolve of those responsible," said Blair, the police commissioner.

"This is not the B-team. These weren't the amateurs. They made a mistake, they made one mistake. We are very, very lucky."

In addition to Omar, police have identified one other suspected bomber, Muktar Said Ibrahim, who was born in Eritrea and became a British citizen in 2003.

Residents of a north London building apartment raided Monday by Metropolitan Police have said Omar and Ibrahim lived together.

Three other men detained in connection to the July 21 probe remain in Paddington Green. Two others have been released.

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Old 07-29-2005, 09:56 AM   #2
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Default RE: Britain refused arrest request by US one month ahead of London bombings

Well...London Police and Scotland Yard are making a huge push today to arrest terrorist suspects. The news just broke. Check CNN.com for more.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:49 AM   #3
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surprise, surprise, surprise............. shouldn't they just be trying to negotiate with these people instead of arresting them though..... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] I just can't believe they used force, instead of telling them not to do that again............................... Wonder if their public will be protesting against the treatment of them? Maybe in France they will be.....
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As a liberal, I beleive that they should have the freedom to blow people up whenever they decide...that is their choice.
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I think if they would just provide them welfare then they woul.....oops my bad, they were.
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As a liberal, I beleive that they should have the freedom to blow people up whenever they decide...that is their choice.
as a Bush conservative, I believe that anybody suspected of being anywhere close to a terrorist, or having known a possible terrorist, or heck even being of the same ancestry as a suspected terrorist, should not have the right to a trial but should be lynched on the spot.
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As a liberal, I beleive that they should have the freedom to blow people up whenever they decide...that is their choice.
as a Bush conservative, I believe that anybody suspected of being anywhere close to a terrorist, or having known a possible terrorist, or heck even being of the same ancestry as a suspected terrorist, should not have the right to a trial but should be lynched on the spot.

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I'd go for that. It's a helluva lot better than having liberals invite known murders over to dinner for a compassionate sit down to ponder how we hurt their wittle feewings.
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I think France is better in dealing with terrorism than Londonistan.

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France ejects 12 Islamic 'preachers of hate'
By Colin Randall in Paris
(Filed: 30/07/2005)

The gulf between British and French treatment of preachers of hatred and violence was thrown sharply into focus yesterday when France announced the summary expulsion of a dozen Islamists between now and the end of August.

A tough new anti-terrorism package was unveiled by Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister and a popular centre-Right politician.


Nicolas Sarkozy: 'We have to act against radical preachers'
His proposals reflect French determination to act swiftly against extremists in defiance of the human rights lobby, which is noticeably less vocal in France than in Britain.

Imams and their followers who fuel anti-western feeling among impressionable young French Muslims will be rounded up and returned to their countries of origin, most commonly in France's case to its former north African colonies.

Mr Sarkozy also revealed that as many as 12 French mosques associated with provocative anti-western preaching were under surveillance. Imams indulging in inflammatory rhetoric will be expelled even if their religious status is recognised by mainstream Muslim bodies.

Those who have assumed French citizenship will not be protected from deportation. Mr Sarkozy said he will reactivate measures, "already available in our penal code but simply not used", to strip undesirables of their adopted nationality. "We have to act against radical preachers capable of influencing the youngest and most weak-minded," Mr Sarkozy told the French daily Le Parisien.

The first to be caught in the new round of expulsions is an Algerian, Rena Ameuroud, whose brother Abderraham was jailed in France earlier this year for his part in a jihadist training exercise in the Fontainebleau forest south of Paris. He faces immediate deportation for allegedly urging fellow-worshippers at a Parisian mosque to engage in "holy war".

At least seven French nationals are now known to have been killed while fighting with anti-coalition insurgents in Iraq, in some cases as suicide bombers, the minister said. A further 10 are believed still to be there. France, which has Europe's largest Muslim population with estimates varying from five to nine million out of a population of 60 million, has long prided itself on its stern approach to terrorism.

Mr Sarkozy's crackdown on those "promoting radical Islamist polemic" was disclosed at the end of a week that began with French anger at Britain's failure to extradite the alleged financier of Islamist bombings in Paris in the mid-1990s. Rachid Ramda, 35, an Algerian, has been held for 10 years while fighting attempts to return him to stand trial. Survivors and victims' relatives who gathered this week at the St Michel station in the heart of Paris to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the worst attack, which killed eight, called on Britain to "stop protecting" Ramda.

They are unimpressed by his supporters' claims that he is a "gentle and peaceful" man who devotes his time in the Belmarsh top-security jail in south-east London to learning the Koran by heart, studying English literature and comforting other Muslim prisoners. Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, has approved Ramda's extradition - as did his predecessor David Blunkett - but his removal depends on High Court proceedings.

French ministers and commentators have long expressed exasperation at British handling of individuals who support terrorism, arguing that greater emphasis is being placed on their human rights rather than on security interests
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The first thing that France has done in a reasonable fashion in years.
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