Trade ideas, predictions, fantasies

[nowhereman]

Originally Posted by Kante

No Howard please!

You say that now, but can you imagine a better guy to pair with Dirk for his last ~3 years?

[Wang Zhi Zhi]

Kaman/Roddy/Wright to Portland for LaMarcus?

Portland gets cap space, sheds a huge contract, and gets two young guys w/ at least some potential.

LA is still young (27), can play center in today's league, and is infinitely better than anybody the Mavs can get via free agency. Our "flexibility" has and will get us nothing in free agency, so getting another star requires a trade, and the only stars that will be available are great players on bad teams looking to reboot.

thoughts?

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi

Kaman/Roddy/Wright to Portland for LaMarcus?

Portland gets cap space, sheds a huge contract, and gets two young guys w/ at least some potential.

LA is still young (27), can play center in today's league, and is infinitely better than anybody the Mavs can get via free agency. Our "flexibility" has and will get us nothing in free agency, so getting another star requires a trade, and the only stars that will be available are great players on bad teams looking to reboot.

thoughts?

They laugh at you? Why would they realistically do that? At this point, why would he want to leave?

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Wang Zhi Zhi

Kaman/Roddy/Wright to Portland for LaMarcus?

Portland gets cap space, sheds a huge contract, and gets two young guys w/ at least some potential.

LA is still young (27), can play center in today's league, and is infinitely better than anybody the Mavs can get via free agency. Our "flexibility" has and will get us nothing in free agency, so getting another star requires a trade, and the only stars that will be available are great players on bad teams looking to reboot.

thoughts?

[Simple_Like_That]

My team is moving forward to the stupid idea of trade Rudy... and that would be the perfect player to add to turn this franchise around... Rudy is not half of the defender Marion is but still young and very gifted offensively. We need a 3pt shooter and some cheap replacement for Rudy... Marion + Carter make a lot of sense... throw multiple picks and maybe even Beaubois or Collison to seal the deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=au78uuw

That type of deal is a quick rebuild move that would allow the Mavs to stay strong for the years after Dirk. Wroten is a great prospect also to solve the pg problem in a near future. HH is just to us save some money and accept the deal.

Mavs:

Collison/Jones/Wroten/Cunnigham
OJ/Jones/CDR
Rudy/Crowder
Dirk/Brand
Kaman/Wright/HH

Grizzlies:

MC/Bayless/Beaubois/Selby
TA/Carter/Wayne
Marion/QP
Zbo/DA
Gasol/Speights/Sarge

[|_Jeff_|]

Trade threads are always funny. "Let's send Team B a bunch of trash for their really good players!"

Sacramento would laugh and hang up the phone if we called and offered Collison, Wright and Crowder for Cousins. Throw in Mayo and they may start listening, but you'd have to take back bad contract too.

[some1nw]

Does anybody actually believe that RC likes his current roster?

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by some1nw

Does anybody actually believe that RC likes his current roster?

IF I WAS RC I WOULD GO BE A KNICK JUST LIKE CHANDLER AND KIDD

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by some1nw

Does anybody actually believe that RC likes his current roster?

THIS ROSTER PROBABLY HAS MADE HIM VOMIT MANY TIMES. I WAS OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS TEAM EARLY THIS SEASON BUT ITS OBVIOUS SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LONG AGO. DIRK HAS NO HELP. AND YES MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK ON CAPS SORRY BUT I RECOMMEND GETTING OVER IT.

[EricaLubarsky]

Remember the good old days when we all huddled around the trade threads hopeing for stupid trades, and Cuban always surprised us with something pleasant (but never won until we started keeping players for continuity)?

[j0Shi]

This year is different though. Mavs were always a lock to make the playoffs and "only" looking to get even better. I doubt a trade this year will have that much impact in the remaining 29 games after the deadline to carry this team to the 8th spot.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

This year is different though. Mavs were always a lock to make the playoffs and "only" looking to get even better. I doubt a trade this year will have that much impact in the remaining 29 games after the deadline to carry this team to the 8th spot.

Doesn't mean that a trade couldn't impact next season. I'd love to see some opportunistic dealing to let the guys gel this year and next year in pre-season or else go all youth.

Unfortunately Kaman, Brand, Collison and Mayo are going to continue to dominate the minutes. I even like the guys, but they just aren't that good and if we are going to miss the playoffs for the first time in more than a decade and we have some good youth, why not develop them?

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

This year is different though. Mavs were always a lock to make the playoffs and "only" looking to get even better. I doubt a trade this year will have that much impact in the remaining 29 games after the deadline to carry this team to the 8th spot.

WHO GIVES A SHIT ATLEAST IT SAYS TO THE FAN THEY CARE. THEY MEANING CUBAN

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by jamaljasonandjimmy

WHO GIVES A SHIT ATLEAST IT SAYS TO THE FAN THEY CARE. THEY MEANING CUBAN

Do you honestly believe that a different owner would make things better?

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Doesn't mean that a trade couldn't impact next season. I'd love to see some opportunistic dealing to let the guys gel this year and next year in pre-season or else go all youth.

Unfortunately Kaman, Brand, Collison and Mayo are going to continue to dominate the minutes. I even like the guys, but they just aren't that good and if we are going to miss the playoffs for the first time in more than a decade and we have some good youth, why not develop them?

Absolutely. Feels like Marion is the trade chip we are talking about when it comes to selling at the deadlline. Guy could mean a lot to a contender and feeling might be mutual, bc I don't think he wants to be on a lottery team at this stage of his career.

Carter as well. Reasonable contract for what he can deliver. Not too sure about Kaman.

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Do you honestly believe that a different owner would make things better?

YOU MIGHT BE A GOOD BASKETBALL ANNALIST BUT NOT A GOOD POST READER OR I AM A HORRIBLE POSTER. MAKE A TRADE.... THATS IT NOTHING MORE CUBAN CAN STAY. JUST DO SOMETHING OR IM WATCHING WNBA

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by jamaljasonandjimmy

YOU MIGHT BE A GOOD BASKETBALL ANNALIST BUT NOT A GOOD POST READER OR I AM A HORRIBLE POSTER. MAKE A TRADE.... THATS IT NOTHING MORE CUBAN CAN STAY. JUST DO SOMETHING OR IM WATCHING WNBA

You said you wanted to smash Cuban's balls into his brains. Was it a bad inference to draw from that that you don't like him?

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by jamaljasonandjimmy

YOU MIGHT BE A GOOD BASKETBALL ANNALIST BUT NOT A GOOD POST READER OR I AM A HORRIBLE POSTER. MAKE A TRADE.... THATS IT NOTHING MORE CUBAN CAN STAY. JUST DO SOMETHING OR IM WATCHING WNBA

Man, you're pretty worthless.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Doesn't mean that a trade couldn't impact next season. I'd love to see some opportunistic dealing to let the guys gel this year and next year in pre-season or else go all youth.

Unfortunately Kaman, Brand, Collison and Mayo are going to continue to dominate the minutes. I even like the guys, but they just aren't that good and if we are going to miss the playoffs for the first time in more than a decade and we have some good youth, why not develop them?

The last part is where we differ. Crowder doesn't look like he will make it, sarge it's hard to tell but if either one of them stay in the nba it will be as 10-12 men. Cunningham is hard to gauge. He at least has the talent that those two do not but really raw. But he's got a little something athletically.

I'd say we have one prospect. I'm not even counting dojo as a nba player at all, he should be in Europe where there are less athletes.

[j0Shi]

One thing standing in the way of a serious 'youth movement' is the contractual situation. Only guys that will definitely be here, barring a trade, are Dirk, Marion, Crowder and Cunningham.

So by design you would want to give those guys all minutes they can handle in preparation for next year. They also have a team option on Carter but beyond that nothing is guaranteed.

Sure you could give other guys heavy minutes in order to gel or find out what they can bring on a larger sample, but some of them definitely won't be here next year.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

One thing standing in the way of a serious 'youth movement' is the contractual situation. Only guys that will definitely be here, barring a trade, are Dirk, Marion, Crowder and Cunningham.

So by design you would want to give those guys all minutes they can handle in preparation for next year. They also have a team option on Carter but beyond that nothing is guaranteed.

Sure you could give other guys heavy minutes in order to gel or find out what they can bring on a larger sample, but some of them definitely won't be here next year.

Crowder (under contract)
Cunningham (under contract)
James (team option)
Roddy (RFA after QO) probably little interest
Collison (RFA after QO) probably little interest
DoJo (UFA, full bird) probably little interest
Douglas Roberts (UFA) probably little interest

We can bring back all of those guys if we wanted to. Only guys Im interested in are James, Crowder, Cunningham, CDR and our lottery pick

[dude1394]

I'm not interested in crowder tbh. I've seen enough of what it appears he can do.

I would suggest he slim down some and get quicker, become a defensive ace and hit that corner 3 like it's going out of style. If he does that he can play. I don't see much other talent from him. Again if he slimmed down he might be able to finish a little better. But the dude doesn't have enough hops.

He'll have to find a way defensively and spot up 3pt shooting.

[jthig32]

Carter's contract for next season is no longer a team option. It's guaranteed.

I have no idea why anyone would think the Mavs have "little interest" in bringing Collison back next season. It's way too early to make that kind of statement.

And saying you've seen enough of a rookie second round picks seems rather ridiculous.

[EricaLubarsky]

I was speaking about other teams' interest in poaching him.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I was speaking about other teams' interest in poaching him.

Well I don't agree with that either. Collison is clearly a rotation worthy NBA guard, at this point. Whether he's starter material is yet to be determined, but no matter what, Collison is going to have teams interested in him.

Now, having said that, he is a restricted free agent, so obviously you are correct in saying we can have him back of we want.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Carter's contract for next season is no longer a team option. It's guaranteed.

I have no idea why anyone would think the Mavs have "little interest" in bringing Collison back next season. It's way too early to make that kind of statement.

And saying you've seen enough of a rookie second round picks seems rather ridiculous.

I pass judgement on these dudes a little quicker than most. Ager, roddy. Dojo...waste of time.

At least roddy had a little something.

[j0Shi]

CDR gone

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...ouglas-roberts

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

CDR gone

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...ouglas-roberts

Wow...they are still NOT happy with the PG if Mike James is what they are thinking...

[jthig32]

I don't know that I would assume that James is going to take that spot. CDR had already fallen completely out of the rotation, and he plays the position that the Mavs have the most depth at right now. So if he'd already failed his tryout, why keep him around and pay him?

[dude1394]

Maybe not, it is dangerous to take a sportswriters opinion into account.

[Bayliss]

And why bring in james anyway?

[EricaLubarsky]

We're talking Bernard, right? Hopefully?

Right?

[dude1394]

They are pretty desperate for some 3pt shooting.

[jthig32]

Mark Followill ‏@MFollowill
DMN's @ESefko reports Mavs waiving Chris Douglas-Roberts who played in 6 games. Contract would have been fully guaranteed if on roster Thurs

So there's that as well.

[LonghornDub]

I think they should make a run at Derek Fisher.

Wait.

[EricaLubarsky]

[spreedom]

I wonder if we'll keep CDR in the fold via 10-day contracts so we can re-evaluate his value here.

[swish4141]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He's terrible at blocking shots, he's terrible at defense and he's terrible offensively. We don't need a one-dimensional player, particularly because he's being shopped because he fought with teammates and shoved his coach.

He is not terrible offensively, just a bit misguided. Keith Smart is a terrible coach. Cousins has one of the best low post repertoire's of any youngin in the league but he's kind of started to play a more finesse style game, takes way too many jumpers. Guy just needs to just get on the block and put in work. Oh and he's 22 years old. I'd love to see the Mavs make a move for him but I highly doubt Sacramento will move him anytime soon. He could easily get 8 FTA per game as a C and shoots about 75% from the line. Just needs to be coached by a guy like Carlisle in my opinion.

[The Ghost of Championship]

"get a point guard get a point guard"

I told you we should have stolen a real point guard when we had our pick between Devin Harris and Mo Williams.

If nothing else, asset.

[MrScottMcKenzie]

Why would anyone want any of our players? We've got no tradeable assets.