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Old 07-21-2022, 12:48 PM   #1
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I am 100% sure the Mavs would have done the trade for just the trade exception. I believe the Knicks wanted a pick to facilitate since they did not need to do a sign and trade. It?s possible they wanted a 1st and Mavs told them to F off. JB could?ve done the team that drafted him and gave him a chance to shine under two different coaches and secure $100m deal a solid. But he didn?t. So F him.
I'm still confused as to why fans are upset with JB.

He did what he thought was best for his career. We also have to take into consideration that Dallas initially didn't even want to offer him that initial contract back early in the season.

That's not JB's fault that is Cuban's for taking the gamble.

I will admit I was not a believer in JB early in his career but dude just kept getting better and under Kidd he just seemed to play with more confidence in his abilities.

So I wish him the best of luck because he didn't do anything wrong he was a UFA.

IN fact didn't Cuban take a similar gamble with Nash and he left kind of the same way as JB left.
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Old 07-21-2022, 01:59 PM   #2
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I'm still confused as to why fans are upset with JB.

He did what he thought was best for his career. We also have to take into consideration that Dallas initially didn't even want to offer him that initial contract back early in the season.

That's not JB's fault that is Cuban's for taking the gamble.

I will admit I was not a believer in JB early in his career but dude just kept getting better and under Kidd he just seemed to play with more confidence in his abilities.

So I wish him the best of luck because he didn't do anything wrong he was a UFA.

IN fact didn't Cuban take a similar gamble with Nash and he left kind of the same way as JB left.
On one hand there are a lot of fans that reacted like a G/F broke up with them...like weird jealous vibes. On the other hand there are fans that don't care and see obvious holes in JBs game and how he fit here. It was about the asset with most knowledgeable fans.

Idk if it's Cubans fault for taking a gamble. It may be more Cubans fault for not taking a gamble. You just said yourself that you weren't a believer in JB. He wasn't near the same player that he is now (offensively) that he was when we needed to make that decision to extend.

JB made the right decision. He would have ended up being traded with no ability to decide where he landed. NY came after him hard, so it was an easier decision to make than it seemed to be a month or so ago. I have to agree with Sturm that he woukdnt have finished his contract here. The problem remained, because he can't defend guards and gets lost on fundamental defensive plays. Bottom line is, you can't have that playing next to Luka...who also can't defend guards.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:08 AM   #3
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On the other hand there are fans that don't care and see obvious holes in JBs game and how he fit here. It was about the asset with most knowledgeable fans.
The loss of the asset is where it begins. That's enough to make this a complete disaster. You don't really have to be very knowledgeable to understand that.
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The loss of the asset is where it begins. That's enough to make this a complete disaster. You don't really have to be very knowledgeable to understand that.
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Old 07-23-2022, 01:11 PM   #5
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I'm still confused as to why fans are upset with JB.

He did what he thought was best for his career. We also have to take into consideration that Dallas initially didn't even want to offer him that initial contract back early in the season.

That's not JB's fault that is Cuban's for taking the gamble.

I will admit I was not a believer in JB early in his career but dude just kept getting better and under Kidd he just seemed to play with more confidence in his abilities.

So I wish him the best of luck because he didn't do anything wrong he was a UFA.

IN fact didn't Cuban take a similar gamble with Nash and he left kind of the same way as JB left.
Fans are upset with JB because fans will collectively always take the side of ownership against players. It is the American mentality to favor ownership over labor even if 99.99 percent will never be the ownership class. We are conditioned to tell the players to "shut up and dribble" while happily funding the owners stadiums with tax dollars (I guess that isn't considered welfare). We fancy ourselves as the billionaires instead of the more attainable millionaires.
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Old 07-23-2022, 01:59 PM   #6
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Fans are upset with JB because fans will collectively always take the side of ownership against players. It is the American mentality to favor ownership over labor even if 99.99 percent will never be the ownership class. We are conditioned to tell the players to "shut up and dribble" while happily funding the owners stadiums with tax dollars (I guess that isn't considered welfare). We fancy ourselves as the billionaires instead of the more attainable millionaires.
You're making stuff up here. Mavs fans haven't really been favoring the FO for years now...certainly not on here and not really on twitter either. ESPECIALLY when it comes to free agency. They've made some decent trades, but the FA track record the last few years has been well documented as terrible.

But Brunson didn't even let a meeting happen with the FO in NY. Blame can go all around, sure, but that's kinda shitty when we just went to the WCF.
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Old 07-23-2022, 07:30 PM   #7
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Fans are upset with JB because fans will collectively always take the side of ownership against players. It is the American mentality to favor ownership over labor even if 99.99 percent will never be the ownership class. We are conditioned to tell the players to "shut up and dribble" while happily funding the owners stadiums with tax dollars (I guess that isn't considered welfare). We fancy ourselves as the billionaires instead of the more attainable millionaires.
Yeah I never understood it. Fans get upset that a player does what's best for him and we blame him over ownership who really caused this mess.
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