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With Kidd, transmission is complete By JAN HUBBARD Star-Telegram staff writer Most of Jason Kidd's impact on the Dallas Mavericks has been obvious. Since the Feb. 19 trade, the Mavericks have been a better passing team and scored more points. They've been more fun to watch. But Kidd's presence has also revealed some shortcomings in the locker room. When asked to describe the effect of his passing on the rest of the Mavericks, this was the response: "It's contagious," backup point guard Tyronn Lue said. "It's such a cliché to say it's contagious, but it is," assistant coach Paul Westphal said. "You hate to use the same word, but it's contagious," Jason Terry said. "It's definitely contagious." It's very clear what Mark Cuban's next perk should be for the players. He's given them flat-screen TVs and video game players in their lockers, personalized luggage, lush towels and robes, but what they really need is simple: A thesaurus. No one doubted that when Kidd came to Dallas, the Mavericks' passing game would improve. Kidd has the fifth-most assists in NBA history, and by the end of next season he could be second behind former Utah guard John Stockton. Before Kidd's arrival, the Mavericks ranked in the bottom 10 in assists with 19.9 per game. But in the 13 games with Kidd, who is averaging 10.2 with Dallas, the Mavericks have averaged 24.2 assists a game. If they had been on that pace the entire season, they would rank third in the league. The clichéd definition of a superstar is that he makes everyone on the team better. Kidd has gone one step further -- he's made everyone on the team better passers. "Everybody's passing the ball, or attempting to," Kidd said. "I've always felt even if it's a turnover and you're attempting to do the right thing, that can only make the team better. It's hard to guard the pass. When the ball's moving around and everybody's touching it, everybody's in tune to the game. You never know the ball is coming your way. "It always helped defensively too, because if everybody's touching it, they're going to give a little bit more on the other end because they might get a rebound or steal it and get it back on the other end." Kidd's effect is not reflected in individual statistics. Dirk Nowitzki (4.0 assists per game before the trade, 2.7 after), Jerry Stackhouse (2.5/2.3) and Terry (3.3/2.6) are all averaging fewer assists since Kidd's arrival. Only Josh Howard (2.1/2.2) and Erick Dampier (0.9/1.1) among regular players have had more assists since the All-Star break. But Westphal said that some stats are misleading because players don't always get an assist for a great pass. "A lot of his passes don't lead to assists," Westphal said. "A guy might get fouled, and that doesn't count as assist. Or it might lead to another pass that a guy just touches it and moves it on to the next place. But you can see that the culture has changed. "It happened with the Lakers when Magic [Johnson] came in. It happened with the Celtics with [Larry] Bird. When you get a guy who is a genius in that regard, it does open up more passes, because all of a sudden guys have the ball in situations where they didn't have it before. And that can lead to the hockey assist, where an extra pass leads to an assist." If imitation is in fact the highest form of flattery, Kidd's teammates have paid him the ultimate tribute. In the Mavericks' first home game after the trade, Kidd made a crosscourt pass from the backcourt to Nowitzki, who was racing down the right sideline. Nowitzki leaped in the air and in one motion, batted the ball to Stackhouse, who was breaking to the basket. "When have we ever seen [Dirk] try that?" Westphal asked. "If he had to do that again," a smiling Terry said, "nine out of 10 times, he couldn't do it." Lue saw something he found equally amazing. Stackhouse has a classic scorer's mentality, but Lue has watched him pass up an easy shot to make the extra pass. "I played with Stack in Washington," Lue said, "and he's never done that before. But that's the effect Kidd has. It's contagious." The friendly local thesaurus says synonyms include words such as "infectious," which seems to be a good one. But perhaps the most applicable is "transmittable," which is exactly what Jason Kidd's passing skills have been to his teammates. Link
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Strange Harris leads in PER but this team looks so re-energized right now.
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Just thought I'd bump this thread with an update.
Since the Kidd trade, the Mavs have posted the following stats: Offensive efficiency: 114.1 pp100 Defensive efficiency: 104.5 pp100 Rebounding differential: +6.5 Here are the top 8 teams in the West, ranked by their current "golf" scores (using full season stats): 1. Dallas: 17 (6th in offense, 8th in defense, 3rd in rebounding) 2. Houston: 18 (15th in offense, 2nd in defense, 1st in rebounding) 3. Utah: 20 (2nd in offense, 13th in defense, 5th in rebounding) 4. LAL: 21 (5th in offense, 6th in defense, 10th in rebounding) 5. New Orleans: 24 (8th in offense, 9th in defense, 7th in rebounding) 6. San Antonio: 29 (13th in offense, 3rd in defense, 13th in rebounding) 7. Phoenix: 44 (1st in offense, 15th in defense, 28th in rebounding) 8. Golden State: 56 (3rd in offense, 23rd in defense, 30th in rebounding)
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It seems like the chemistry is improving in the locker room, but my problem is that I don't want anyone using the words Adolph Hitler to joke around Dirk.
'The Hitler Card'? Dirk's Mood: Punchlines & Punchouts By Mike Fisher -- DB.com A strange phenomenon occurred on the front of each of DFW’s daily newspapers this weekend: Ol’ Randy and JJT essentially wrote the same exact column. They both insisted that Dirk is “happy.’’ (Ol’ Randy says it with Southern-fried simplicity; the aspiring poet JJT writes, “he’s doing it with a smile on his face and joy in his heart.’’) But neither of the columns offer any “proof’’ of The UberMan’s gleefulness. So allow me to tell you a quick Dirk Nowitzki anecdote, a story that includes as the unlikely punchline … Adolph Hitler. “Germany has produced lots of champions!’’ laughs Dirk Nowitzki as he enters the locker room after yet another Mavs victory. “Really? Name one!’’ challenges Jason Terry. “What about Max Schmeling?’’ offers Dirk, name-checking the great heavyweight champion boxer of the 1930’s. Replies Terry, a rather astute sports historian: “He beat Joe Louis once, but then came the rematch, and it was the big one, and (Schmeling) couldn’t win the big one!’’ And then, out of nowhere, a third voice tries to settle the faux feud. “Yeah!’’ giggles Malik Allen. “And what about Hitler?’’ And all the Mavs within earshot crack up, another joke told, another victory secured, another intangible bond maybe solidified. That conversation occurred Wednesday night, in the middle of what is now a five-game winning streak thanks to the Mavs’ 98-73 victory in Miami on Sunday. Dallas has destroyed these five have-nots by 19 points or more. And all the Mavs have played key roles in the surge to a 44-23 record: From Jason Terry accepting his benching to Josh Howard emerging as again being Robin-like to subs like Allen earning rotation slots to the main source of Dirk’s happiness, Jason Kidd, taking over the demanding job of team leader. But most of all there is Dirk. He was the MVP a year ago due to his numbers: 24.6 points, 8.9 rebounds and 3.4 assists. Well, don’t look now, but The UberMan is presently at 23.6/8.7/3.7. You want efficiency? In these five outings, he’s scored 120 points in 136 minutes. “Good locker-room chemistry has always been one of the trademarks of our team,’’ says Mavs owner Mark Cuban, who credits Nowitzki with helping to set the mood. “And Dirk? He’s the MVP, but he’s also just one of the guys. He doesn’t have an inflated opinion of himself. He’s as hard a worker as we have. He’s self-depreciating. (Success) couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.’’ Therefore he is able to take the ribbing – even when the ribbing includes an awkwardly funny reference to Hitler. “It’s locker-room humor,’’ says Terry, who then shifts gears to his thoughts on June 22, 1938, at Yankee Stadium. “That must’ve been something, huh? Millions of people, leaning toward their radios, listening to Joe Louis, with the whole world getting ready to go to war. … Imagine the pressure! And for that moment, anyway, despite segregation and whatever, black and white people, pulling together, rooting for the same thing. …’’ Yes, it’s just locker-room humor. It’s not Louis-Schmeling and all its societal gravitas. It’s not World War II. It’s just a highly-competitive race for the playoffs in the NBA’s Western Conference. But there is pressure. And inside the Mavs, there are tensions and conflicts and adversity. There are newcomers trying to mesh with holdovers. There are black and white people, pulling together, rooting for the same thing. And in the middle of it, there is Dirk Nowitzki. Happy? Yes, so happy that he’ll allow himself to be the butt of Hitler jokes.
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It's more complicated than this, but I think Hollinger's formula is basically (margin of victory) X (opponents winning percentage), weighted towards the last 25% of games played. We are +7.5 in the last quarter of our games, with an opponents win % of .477.
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