GDT: Game 2 - Mavs vs the lowly Spurs - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DubOverdose · 05-09-2006, 04:22 PM

Its finals week. The Mavs better make this game worth my while.
That being said, I don't think we win this game. The Spurs will have more bounce to their step than we saw in game 1 and Ginobli will probably have a decent game.

kg_veteran · 05-09-2006, 04:22 PM

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Why in the flying hell would you start Terry and Harris? Am I missing something here? TERRY GUARDING GINOBILLI? Isn't that possibly the worst matchup on the court for Terry? AJ is pushing his panic button wayyyyyy too early. From calling timeouts only down 0-5 to this. He's looking real inexperienced and he's showing his hand to the Spurs. Ginobilli is going to eat Terry alive in the first quarter. I'm not sure if there is a way to stop Parker from going into the lane other than having a big man who can hold down the paint. I don't understand this at all.

Howard will guard Ginobili. JET will guard Bowen. Calm down.

rabbitproof · 05-09-2006, 04:25 PM

I think Harris would guard Manu. JET still plays Parker. This may also mean a few more minutes for either Daniels or DA (stolen from Griff) - either for rest or foul factors.

I'm curious to see how this works. If it is no good.... abort, abort, abort! However, it appears like a strategy which will allow us to force Bowen off Dirk or give our backcourt (plus Howard) a real advantage offensively. It is going 'small' in a way.

edit: Or even better.. do as KG suggests! JET is a horrible on the ball defender but all he has to do is stand by Bowen in the corner and he can be a shutdown defender for a day.

dude1394 · 05-09-2006, 04:28 PM

Actually no, the worst matchup for jason is parker. He's the worst matchup for anyone except devin.

Dtownsfinest · 05-09-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

Howard will guard Ginobili. JET will guard Bowen. Calm down.

Where'd you hear this at? ESPN Radio(probably not something to take serious anyway) just said JET will be guarding Ginobilli. Maybe I went overboad but I still don't like it. Going small with the Spurs is not what you want to do. These aren't the Grizzlies.

Dtownsfinest · 05-09-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Actually no, the worst matchup for jason is parker. He's the worst matchup for anyone except devin.

I don't think so. Ginobilli and Parker do the same things. I give Ginobilli the edge because he's bigger than Parker. But both can get to the lane and create if needed.

orangedays · 05-09-2006, 04:31 PM

Mavericks.

Win.

dude1394 · 05-09-2006, 04:31 PM

Actually going "small" in my opinion is not having a center, sort of like what the sk*rts are doing with Horry. Dirk/Diop/Josh isn't "small".

The sk*rts don't have a postup guard, none. Even if Jason does guard ginobbli, so what? He's not quicker than parker, he doesn't post up?

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-09-2006, 04:32 PM

Hahaha thats right, always given sh*t for my name and the kid is starting yet again.

rabbitproof · 05-09-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Actually no, the worst matchup for jason is parker. He's the worst matchup for anyone except devin.

I was thinking mostly in terms of offensive advantages gained but you're right and I think KG_vet's matchups sound the best. So, defensively, it would be..

Devin vs Parker
Howard vs Manu
JET vs Bowen
Damp/Diop vs Duncan
Dirk vs Rasho/Nazr/Horry

I still think this move is made mostly for offensive measures - to help get Dirk and/or JET back on track.

dude1394 · 05-09-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

I was thinking mostly in terms of offensive advantages gained but you're right and I think KG_vet's matchups sound the best. So, defensively, it would be..

Devin vs Parker
Howard vs Manu
JET vs Bowen
Damp/Diop vs Duncan
Dirk vs Rasho/Nazr/Horry

I still think this move is made mostly for offensive measures - to help get Dirk and/or JET back on track.

I"m okay with offensive purposes. Mavs needed more scoring punch and griffin really doesn't provide it imo. Actually either jet/howard can conver ginobbli. But it will be interesting to see who covers dirk?

All we know is that it won't be duncan.

rabbitproof · 05-09-2006, 04:39 PM

Anytime you deviate from the traditional 1-2-3-4-5, you're going in the direction of 'small'. For example, a lineup with a center and four swingmen is 'small'. It's not as small as playing without a center but playing two points in the backcourt is 'smaller'. Maybe not 'small' per say but 'smaller'.

And I think it's an appropriate strategy. As much as we rave about our two/three headed beast at center - we have a 1-2 PG combo that's up there with anybody in the A, too. If the Spurs have to play Parker/NVE to counter, I'm more then fine.

chumdawg · 05-09-2006, 04:44 PM

AJ has some Nellie in him after all!

kg_veteran · 05-09-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I"m okay with offensive purposes. Mavs needed more scoring punch and griffin really doesn't provide it imo. Actually either jet/howard can conver ginobbli. But it will be interesting to see who covers dirk?

All we know is that it won't be duncan.

My suspicion is that the Spurs will respond by putting Duncan on our center and putting Horry on Howard.

kg_veteran · 05-09-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

AJ has some Nellie in him after all!

The operative word being "some".

TripleDipping · 05-09-2006, 04:59 PM

Trust in the COY!

dude1394 · 05-09-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

My suspicion is that the Spurs will respond by putting Duncan on our center and putting Horry on Howard.

Wonder how that might effect their rebounding numbers.

Simon2 · 05-09-2006, 05:28 PM

This is like the episode of Star Trek TNG where the Borg kidnap Picard. "To beat Picard, you must throw away the book", said Guinan. AJ is throwing away his Pop book and opening his Nellie.

WraithXx · 05-09-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

The operative word being "some".

The less the better

sp3nc3r13 · 05-09-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

My suspicion is that the Spurs will respond by putting Duncan on our center and putting Horry on Howard.

I would love that. Howard would tear up Horry off the dribble.

orangedays · 05-09-2006, 06:54 PM

596 current active users? Goodness.

mavsfan1000 · 05-09-2006, 06:57 PM

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I would love that. Howard would tear up Horry off the dribble.

He should but it didn't happen that way in game 1 when the spurs put Horry on Howard. Horry also did a good job on Ron Artest when he guarded him. Horry is long and can back off Howard in the paint like Prince does. This also puts him in better rebounding position. Howard could abuse Ginobili but Horry I'm not so sure about.

As for the lineup change I am for it. Parker would abuse Terry and putting Harris in makes Terry's job on defense a lot less stressful which will help his shooting because he won't be as tired. If Howard gets a quick foul in the first quarter Terry will likely switch to Manu.

sp3nc3r13 · 05-09-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

He should but it didn't happen that way in game 1 when the spurs put Horry on Howard. Horry also did a good job on Ron Artest when he guarded him. Horry is long and can back off Howard in the paint like Prince does. This also puts him in better rebounding position. Howard could abuse Ginobili but Horry I'm not so sure about.

As for the lineup change I am for it. Parker would abuse Terry and putting Harris in makes Terry's job on defense a lot less stressful which will help his shooting because he won't be as tired. If Howard gets a quick foul in the first quarter Terry will likely switch to Manu.

Didn't really take notice of that matchup in game 1. Hopefully JHO has a big night anyways. I really do believe he is the key to a win, with or without the 20 points(19-0).

mavsman · 05-09-2006, 07:23 PM

I guess that the Skirts will get more offensive output from their bench today. 9 pts combined seem a bit poor for Fin and Nick. That said, Dirk and Josh will take Bowen to the hole until he fouls out. Jet will dominate and the mighty Mavs take this one by 18. 104 - 86 Mavs.

Dirkenstien · 05-09-2006, 07:29 PM

I think we'll win tonight simply because we have gotten the jitters out of our system. We know what to expect now and some injury issues/weaknesses are beginning to show in the Spurs lineup.

Hitman · 05-09-2006, 07:29 PM

Dirk Nowitzki, the least respected superstar in history, just got absolutely roasted for saying that he "probably wouldn't average 35 points in this series" on TNT.

capitalcity · 05-09-2006, 07:41 PM

Create some hate.

Mavericks 99
Spurts 92

G-Man · 05-09-2006, 07:44 PM

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Dirk Nowitzki, the least respected superstar in history, just got absolutely roasted for saying that he "probably wouldn't average 35 points in this series" on TNT.

Watching Barkley and Magic saying "I would never say 'I won't score 30 or 35," I think, no you wouldn't. But you aren't Dirk. I'm a car guy, and Dirk is ike the first BMW in America. America had, great big hot cars, Caddies with tail fins and 300 horsepower V-8's. BMW comes in with small conservative looking cars. Nothing fancy, just veru high quality and they ran like stink. And still do. Thats Dirk, a German classic. No Magic flash or Barkley tail fins. Just power, speed and class. Under sell and over deliver.

Those of us who've listening to Dirk since before he spoke English knew exactly what he meant. Its a different style of leadership, but it's Dirk's style. I'm not worried about his at all

G-Man · 05-09-2006, 07:52 PM

Been thinking a lot about game 1. I don't think losing it has much to do with Bowen or Duncan. I think the Mavs were just tight. And why not? they've

G-Man · 05-09-2006, 07:53 PM

Been thinking a lot about game 1. I don't think losing it has much to do with Bowen or Duncan. I think the Mavs were just tight. And why not? they've been waiting a year to make up for last year's playoff embarrasment. Now, as I have said before,they are in the virtual finals. Lose now and its another off season just like the last one. It's been clear since December this would be the 2nd round matchup. That's a lot of pressure, and they played like a tight team. Missing free throws, and Terry clanging shots and Quis airmailing a pass to the 3rd row are classic signs. SA didn't force any of that, it was nerves.

And we still almost won. Reverse just 2 of those bad plays and we win.

Just because Dirk doesn't expect to score 35 doesn't mean it won't. More importantly, is sure don't mean he doesn't expect to win.

Hitman · 05-09-2006, 07:53 PM

Dirk was saying that everyone had to step up, that he couldn't do it himself. He puts the team before himself. Watching them harp on this bit of semantics was slightly sickening.

MavsFanFinley · 05-09-2006, 08:00 PM

I like the Harris move but lets see how much respect he gets on the road with the officials. And lets see how much Parker really is banged up.

WraithXx · 05-09-2006, 08:04 PM

Wait just a second...

am I seeing this right?

they're not going to broadcast the game on UPN 21, only on TNT?

that being said, the 3rd quarter of the Cavs/Pistons game isn't even over yet and it's already 8:05pm..... and our game starts at 8:30

don't f'ing tell me they're going to cut into our game

Locked_Up_Tonight · 05-09-2006, 08:08 PM

Does it really matter what Charles thinks? Seriously? Remind me again what it takes to win as "the man" Charles? I can't hear because of the shine of jewelry in my eyes.

(And if anyone has a Magic Johnson translator I'd appreciate it. The dude hasn't made a coherent sentence since he told Cookie he had HIV. And even then he needed help.)

Murphy3 · 05-09-2006, 08:08 PM

You can catch the start of the Mavs game on OLN.

WraithXx · 05-09-2006, 08:10 PM

what in the world is OLN?

WraithXx · 05-09-2006, 08:12 PM

I just googled "OLN" and I'm assuming it's that streaming video thing? they have the hockey game scheduled for 8, doesn't mention Mavs

Murphy3 · 05-09-2006, 08:18 PM

I'm assuming you've checked the OLN alternative....

Cybertx · 05-09-2006, 08:19 PM

go here:

http://www.streamsports.net/TvAnts.html

WraithXx · 05-09-2006, 08:21 PM

OLN alternative??

Murphy just tell me exactly what to do because there's 10 minutes til 8:30 and I'm getting pissed at the stupid pointless Pistons game still having 8 minutes to go in the 4th... which usually takes about 80 hours to finish due to retarded fouling and son of a bitchin commercials