2020-2021 NBA Season thread - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-26-2020, 11:11 AM

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All those years of Curry laughing, dancing and mocking like an idiot and then recruiting Durant...im enjoying their trainwreck. Again.

Well Durant was the best player on the team. In no scenario would I pick Curry over Durant if I had to choose between the two.

Dallas41 · 12-26-2020, 10:13 PM

It's early in the season but here's what I've noticed.

Blake can still ball. Obviously health is a concern but I think if he's on a good team he would really be productive.

Curry fits in so good with Philly. They just seem to have the right pieces around where his defense isn't much of a concern and his offense really spaces the floor well for Embiid to post up freely and Simmons to drive.

OKC despite always trying gut their roster just seem to play hard no matter what and I think they are still going to be a very competitive team.

Atlanta IMA was the team that really improved the most via FA additions. They are a fun team to watch play.

San Antonio despite the league going to more three's continue to play to the strength of their players. I like that Pop's doesn't force his guys to play outside of their strengths and if healthy baring any trades i think the Spurs are going to return to the playoffs.

Chicago seems like they are destined to hit the reset button again. Two guys that I really like off that Bulls teams who i think would be awesome in Dallas is Lavine and Markenen.

EricaLubarsky · 12-27-2020, 04:44 PM

Chriss breaks his leg

Warriors are cursed

Bryan_Wilson · 12-27-2020, 09:32 PM

Oubre looks soooooooooooooo bad.

EricaLubarsky · 12-27-2020, 09:43 PM

Knicks trashing the Bucks. Everyone is hitting.

Interestingly DSJ is totally inactive.

I honestly think the Knicks opt-out this summer. I'm not sure he even gets another contract.

EricaLubarsky · 12-28-2020, 09:57 AM

Kelly Oubre is now 1-33 on any shot that isn’t a dunk

EricaLubarsky · 12-28-2020, 12:32 PM

Dinwiddie partially tore his ACL. Will be out for a while

BPo001 · 12-28-2020, 12:32 PM

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Knicks trashing the Bucks. Everyone is hitting.

Interestingly DSJ is totally inactive.

I honestly think the Knicks opt-out this summer. I'm not sure he even gets another contract.

Man what happened to him? He’s got talent to play in the league, but damn he’s been awful. I imagine someone signs him to another contract.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-28-2020, 01:00 PM

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Man what happened to him? He’s got talent to play in the league, but damn he’s been awful. I imagine someone signs him to another contract.

Teams can easily ruin players for little reason. Sixers nearly ruined Fultz's career before he blossomed on Orlando. Smith just needs a fresh start.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-28-2020, 08:30 PM

Morant going out in a wheelchair with an ankle injury. Damn.

EricaLubarsky · 12-28-2020, 08:39 PM

https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/s...881968640?s=21

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-28-2020, 08:52 PM

Ankle sprain...thank god. Even if it is a bad one, at least no achilles.

Dtownsfinest · 12-28-2020, 09:20 PM

Gonna go ahead an call it......Wood is the best free agent pick up this season and it makes me sick Rockets got him. I still don't understand Pistons logic......sign Grant and Plumlee for the same money as Wood.

FreshJive · 12-28-2020, 11:30 PM

LeVert with 28 pts 11 ast and 5 stl while KD and Kyrie sit. What a luxury sixth man to have, but they just lost Dinwiddie for the season. They also have two legit centers, and a head coach for an assistant. Poor Knicks.

Dtownsfinest · 12-28-2020, 11:58 PM

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LeVert with 28 pts 11 ast and 5 stl while KD and Kyrie sit. What a luxury sixth man to have, but they just lost Dinwiddie for the season. They also have two legit centers, and a head coach for an assistant. Poor Knicks.

Nets are so damn deep. Luwawa went off for 21 plus tonight. He had a few good games in the bubble too.

So the rumored deals for Harden were always Dinwiddie and Levert. I think the deal could still get done with Levert. I really like Levert's game. He's the perfect player to have as a 6th man. He can fill right in when you sit your starters....

ChampsAgainShoon · 12-29-2020, 03:46 AM

There's only 4 undefeated teams left and they're all in the Eastern Conference and not teams you would expect: Orlando, CLEVELAND, Atlanta, Indiana.

FreshJive · 12-29-2020, 04:08 AM

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Nets are so damn deep. Luwawa went off for 21 plus tonight. He had a few good games in the bubble too.

So the rumored deals for Harden were always Dinwiddie and Levert. I think the deal could still get done with Levert. I really like Levert's game. He's the perfect player to have as a 6th man. He can fill right in when you sit your starters....

Yep. TLC is a legit bench guy. Jeff Green, Shamet. They didn't even play Kurucs, Johnson, or Brown.

mac222b · 12-29-2020, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Nets are so damn deep. Luwawa went off for 21 plus tonight. He had a few good games in the bubble too.

So the rumored deals for Harden were always Dinwiddie and Levert. I think the deal could still get done with Levert. I really like Levert's game. He's the perfect player to have as a 6th man. He can fill right in when you sit your starters....

Shoot, if I’m Houston I ask for Levert, Allen, Harris, Dinwiddie and Prince with a couple picks for good measure.

EricaLubarsky · 12-29-2020, 10:07 AM

https://streamable.com/jdl1ky

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-29-2020, 10:23 AM

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https://streamable.com/jdl1ky

You know, the Harlem Globetrotters are highly entertaining.

I know that may be what purests don't want, but I think average fans eat that stuff up. I mean, it is fun and funny to watch.

EricaLubarsky · 12-29-2020, 11:57 AM

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There's only 4 undefeated teams left and they're all in the Eastern Conference and not teams you would expect: Orlando, CLEVELAND, Atlanta, Indiana.

This season is insane. There are some decent teams in there to be sure. Indiana is always a playoff team. Hawks are too and Cleveland is going to surprise people with their homegrown talent.

Still, it's weird to have Mavs with a losing record and Orlando undefeated.

Dtownsfinest · 12-29-2020, 08:26 PM

So uhhhh...am I the only one who didn't know Justin Jackson AND Isiah Roby both played for the Thunder? Both got the starts tonight.....Roby looks damn good thus far.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-29-2020, 08:41 PM

Roby has 9 points and 2 rebounds in his start. Wow.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-29-2020, 08:51 PM

Theo Maledon has also looked good too. But remember, the Thunder can afford to play these guys.

Dtownsfinest · 12-29-2020, 09:05 PM

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Shoot, if I’m Houston I ask for Levert, Allen, Harris, Dinwiddie and Prince with a couple picks for good measure.

If they could get that....that would be a steal.

EricaLubarsky · 12-29-2020, 10:00 PM

Westbrook triple doubles in his first four games

No one has done that since Oscar Robertson

He’s also 0-4

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-29-2020, 10:36 PM

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

mac222b · 12-30-2020, 12:27 AM

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19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

We basically traded him for WCS right? RC wouldn’t play him anyway.

EricaLubarsky · 12-30-2020, 10:43 AM

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19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

Don’t get the shit part

He was end of the bench for us. May never have played and just had one decent game in a loss.

OKC was desperate. They started him and gave him major minutes next to SGA. Don’t think that would have happened here. Also who knows if he’ll ever have another good game.

I wish him well. Seemed like a good kid. I love the stories of guys who aren’t expected to do anything, get one chance, and explode in one game. It has that Yogi Ferrell feeling.

Anyway, I’m thrilled we have WCS right now.

Dtownsfinest · 12-30-2020, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

19/7/2 for Roby. Shit.

He looked damn good too.........

Dtownsfinest · 12-30-2020, 04:11 PM

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Don’t get the shit part

He was end of the bench for us. May never have played and just had one decent game in a loss.

OKC was desperate. They started him and gave him major minutes next to SGA. Don’t think that would have happened here. Also who knows if he’ll ever have another good game.

I wish him well. Seemed like a good kid. I love the stories of guys who aren’t expected to do anything, get one chance, and explode in one game. It has that Yogi Ferrell feeling.

Anyway, I’m thrilled we have WCS right now.

I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

Thespiralgoeson · 12-30-2020, 04:23 PM

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I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

mac222b · 12-30-2020, 07:31 PM

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Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

I have a long standing belief which I’ve vocalised here many times that part of our issue here is the “triangulation” of the MBT. Which results in trades like the one for Rondo which Rick seemed never to be on board with. Cuban is great in some ways but him being such an active owner I’m sure can at times be an impediment. Not drafting Giannis is a great example where are know he overruled Donnie (and it was dumb!)

I think Jae Crowder is a good example of Rick’s blind spot or limitation. If he had been given a bigger role, which in hindsight he was ready for, we may not have made that trade. Or at least flipped Jae for something better later. We also gave them like the 18 pick and Wright. Roby may or may not turn out to be another gaffe, too soon to tell. The takeaway is I hope all our rookies get a good look at some point before we ship them off unceremoniously.

mac222b · 12-30-2020, 07:51 PM

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I think that's the issue though....why can't a guy like Roby get play here? I honestly can't see much of a difference between Roby, Kleber, WCS and Powell in regards to how good they are.

Was there another way to clear a roster spot? I can’t remember who we had pre-bubble. Likely no one wanted Justin Jackson. Courtney Lee still had value for his contract and on court to some extent.

mac222b · 12-30-2020, 07:53 PM

I had a look back and Broekoff was the other guy we could have dumped. They must not have thought much of Roby.

Dtownsfinest · 12-30-2020, 07:53 PM

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Carlisle is just weird with his rotations and always has been. He loves some guys and not others, and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. I firmly believe that he will keep starting Powell until Powell is no longer a Maverick, even though Powell might be the worst player on the team, and even though Porzingis is way better as a 5 than a 4. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but that is what I'm expecting.

I will also go to my grave believing that we would have beaten the Spurs in 2010 if Rick played Beaubois instead of Barea.

I agree on all of the above. I don't see the purpose in Powell and it disturbs me that a basketball mind like Carlisle does. Is it salary that keeps getting him play on the court?

Dtownsfinest · 12-30-2020, 07:54 PM

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Was there another way to clear a roster spot? I can’t remember who we had pre-bubble. Likely no one wanted Justin Jackson. Courtney Lee still had value for his contract and on court to some extent.

Ouch was Roby just a "throw-in"?

And btw, I don't want to make it sound like Roby is the next coming. My issue isn't necessarily with Roby just the approach this team takes when it comes to valuing young players....because there's going to come a point where we have no choice but to build this team with guys on deals like Roby.

mac222b · 12-30-2020, 08:19 PM

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Ouch was Roby just a "throw-in"?

And btw, I don't want to make it sound like Roby is the next coming. My issue isn't necessarily with Roby just the approach this team takes when it comes to valuing young players....because there's going to come a point where we have no choice but to build this team with guys on deals like Roby.

We traded Roby to OKC for cash and Justin Patton who we waived to make roster room for WCS. I think we gave GSW a crappy 2nd for him. We eventually waived Bro so we could pick up Burke for the bubble. I was just wondering if we could have dumped Bro instead of Roby? Just waived him. Maybe Cuban is more concerned about cash than we know?

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-30-2020, 08:25 PM

Bane is so solid. That one is gonna linger.

EricaLubarsky · 12-30-2020, 08:33 PM

No way Heat make the finals again. East finally has some talent