Official 2008 Draft Thread - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

nikeball · 06-26-2008, 02:42 PM

Since there are so many new threads...and some people will be watching the draft....here is a thread for it..post a new stuff in here.

I will try to update it throughout the day/night.

Big "pending" Trades so far:

1. ------------pending physicals i believe, Indiana denies this trade, Jermaine says trade happened.
Indiana Pacers get TJ Ford + Rasho Nesterovic + Draft Rights to Roy Hibbert
Toronto Raptors get Jermaine Oneal + Pacers #41

2. --------------
New Jersey Nets get Yi Jian Lian + Bobby Simmons
Milwuakee Bucks get Richard Jefferson

3. ---------------
Charlotte Bobcats get Rights to Alexis Ajinca
Denver Nuggets get Future 1st round pick (or cash?)

4. --------------
Portland Trailblazers get Rights to Darrell Arthur
New Orleans Hornets get cash

5. --------------
Indiana Pacers get Jarrett Jack + Josh McRobets + Rights to Brandon Rush
Portland Trailblazers get Ike Diogu + Rights to Jerryd Bayless .

6. --------------
Miami Heat get Rights to Mario Chalmers
Minnesota Timberwolves get two future 2nd round picks.

7. --------------
Seattle Supersonics get Rights to DJ White
Detroit Piston get two 2nd round picks.

8.------------
Minnesota Timberwolves get Kevin Love + Mike Miller + Brian Cardinal + Jason Collins
Memphis Grizzlies get OJ Mayo + Marko Jaric + Antoine Walker + Greg Buckner

alby · 06-26-2008, 02:48 PM

Thank you nikeball, for consolidating all these rumors/trades into one thread.

This will be the first draft that I'm going to watch live, what an exciting night!

alby · 06-26-2008, 02:54 PM

1. Looks like they have agreed in principle, but the deal can not be completed until late in the first week of July. Indiana also gets Toronto's #1 pick as well fyi.

2. I like this trade for both parties. Yi gets to go to the bigger market, with a much larger asian population. Also this gives the Nets tremendous flexibility for 2010 when they are going to sign King James to a max contract. And Skiles gets to have a legitimate scorer in RJ--a lineup of Mo/Redd/RJ/PF/Bogut isn't too shabby in the east, probably 5-7th seed.

3. Does this mean OJ is going to go back to LA, lol.

question:
can you trade the same pick multiple times in one night?
for example, if the Clippers receive Seattle's #4, can they trade it to Miami in a package deal for Marion?

ty · 06-26-2008, 03:00 PM

Wow, Yi to Brooklyn. China will be happy.

nikeball · 06-26-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ty

Wow, Yi to Brooklyn. China will be happy.

Helps the Lebron to Brooklyn cause some more.

He will easily be the most marketable star in China if he is teammates with Yi...and he speaks the most Mandarin on Team USA.

alby · 06-26-2008, 03:03 PM

Yi + Lebron = Lebron takes over the world.

MavsFanFinley · 06-26-2008, 03:22 PM

Good thread. I didn't see this before I posted in the around the nba section.

According to Chad Ford the Spurs have sent an email out to every team in hopes of selling the 26th pick.

alby · 06-26-2008, 03:25 PM

Really smart move, for driving up the price. Looks like San Antonio is about to improve again. (what else is new)

MavsFanFinley · 06-26-2008, 03:30 PM

The rumors surrounding the Spurs is really strange the last few days. First, Ford said the Spurs committed to Ryan Anderson while Draft Express said they were committed to Nicolas Batum. They still stand by that statement while Ford last night switched to Batum as well.

Yahoo rumors said that the Spurs tried to trade up to 20, 21, and 24 but could not work anything out. Now Ford posts this email about trying to trade out.

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 03:32 PM

I wonder what MIL is trying to do, are they going to keep that the new core group?

The Clippers have to be pushing pretty hard for OJ and thinking/praying Minnesota won't take him.

bgarrett · 06-26-2008, 04:13 PM

MAybe they get Lopez if Mayo is gone and then dangle Kaman and or Brand out there to see of they can get a SG or PG in return...

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 04:21 PM

No, if Mayo's on the board at 4, Seattle gets him. Don't think LA can get Mayo based on the trade contingencies. LA's on Gordon's jock, bad if you're waiting for a Jet-maggette deal.

alby · 06-26-2008, 04:23 PM

JET/Maggs deal isn't happening. I hope we've all accepted that when he decided not to opt out.

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 04:25 PM

A small part of me still thinks there is a big move looming for Dallas tonight. The majority of me thinks that we'll buy a late first rounder, and I'm hoping that leads to Rush or CDR.

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

JET/Maggs deal isn't happening. I hope we've all accepted that when he decided not to opt out.

Wow when did this happen, I read in the Times this morning that he is sticking to opting out

towards end of article)

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,5859088.story

alby · 06-26-2008, 04:32 PM

LOL how did the Mavericks pull this off?

1980: 11th pick
1981: 1st pick + 9th pick
1982: 4th pick
1983: 9th pick + 11th pick
1984: 5th pick + 15th pick
1985: 8th pick + 16th pick + 17th pick
1986: 7th pick

we probably had the worst scouts in NBA history...

alby · 06-26-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Wow when did this happen, I read in the Times this morning that he is sticking to opting out

towards end of article)

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,5859088.story

I just got my information from here:
http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=33264

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alby

LOL how did the Mavericks pull this off?

1982: 4th pick
1983: 9th pick + 11th pick
1984: 5th pick + 15th pick
1985: 8th pick + 16th pick + 17th pick
1986: 7th pick

we probably had the worst scouts in NBA history...

forgot the 1st and 9th(Vandeweghe) pick back in 1981. For a quick review:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...DAL/draft.html

alby · 06-26-2008, 04:59 PM

Haha, that's just embarrassing

PS, we got Kiki with the 11th pick in 1980 and Acguire with the 1st pick in 1981 ^_^

*updated

Dirkenstien · 06-26-2008, 05:00 PM

I'm depressed. I just don't have confidence in the Mavs front office to pull anything exciting off tonight.

Hopefully tomorrow morning I'll be singing a different tune.

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 05:10 PM

"Ko'ach is gonnnne! Here you go, Donnie...this is ready for you!"

*points to the hot seat*

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alby

Haha, that's just embarrassing

PS, we got Kiki with the 11th pick in 1980 and Acguire with the 1st pick in 1981 ^_^

*updated

Yea, then he refused to sign and was shipped out for that pick in 1981 that became Rolando.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 06-26-2008, 05:26 PM

"Memphis has checked with Dallas about acquiring Josh Howard."

thememphisedge.com

Is there anyway we go for that? (i.e. Mike Miller + their 1st round pick?)

AxdemxO · 06-26-2008, 05:27 PM

I dont understand why we werent in the RJ race. Maybe Kidd didnt want to play with him again. But I would have done a Howard for RJ.maybe with some other pieces involved

Caseman · 06-26-2008, 05:35 PM

If Dallas doesn't do anything big today, I will be so dissapointed. I'll probably kill myself. We'll see..

AxdemxO · 06-26-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseman

If Dallas doesn't do anything big today, I will be so dissapointed. I'll probably kill myself. We'll see..

Not worth it mann. The team is gonna be OK

if we lose in the first round thou again next year, which we wont because wer gonna win it all

then you can go ahead

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 06-26-2008, 05:44 PM

That would suck if someone killed themselves over the Mavs then we win the championship the next year. Or at least it would suck for the one who commited suicide.

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

"Memphis has checked with Dallas about acquiring Josh Howard."

thememphisedge.com

Is there anyway we go for that? (i.e. Mike Miller + their 1st round pick?)

If they give us #5 and something...sure!
If Kevin Love is gone before it's Memphis' pick, all I've heard is that they want out of the pick then.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 06-26-2008, 05:48 PM

That's what I meant but couldn't remember their exact pick #. So #5 + Mike Miller for J-ho. What does everyone think? If Memphis is the one inquiring they have to know they're gonna give up their pick plus a decent player.

But I'm sure the Mavs front office stubborness will prevent that from happening even if it were on the table. "We like our team" then another 2008-09 first round exit "We still like our team."

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

If Memphis is willing to deal Miller ANNNNND #5 for Josh....DO THE FRIGGEN DEAL. Memphis would be stupid for doing that deal, but we would need to take that and run.

I would think something more along the lines of Miller + Lowry or Cardinal and #5
For Josh, Bass and Stack or EJ

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM

Memphis dealed Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and some trash. (Kwame is trash really) I don't see why not.

But I don't think Josh is getting traded no matter what.

bgarrett · 06-26-2008, 05:57 PM

I thought it was JHO-Stack-51 for MMILLER Cardinal, #5 pick....

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 05:58 PM

As long as we're willing to take Cardinal way and we gave them something like Stack or EJ in terms of relief, they're willing to listen.

Like I said, if Love is gone...the floodgates could open for that MEM pick.

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I dont understand why we werent in the RJ race. Maybe Kidd didnt want to play with him again. But I would have done a Howard for RJ.maybe with some other pieces involved

This was a move to get Lebron in 2010. Howard's deal expires in 2011, same year as RJ if he picks up his player option.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 06-26-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgarrett

I thought it was JHO-Stack-51 for MMILLER Cardinal, #5 pick....

They should do it, but obviously we haven't heard anything is imminent. (draft is <1 hour.)

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 06:02 PM

Well if Memphis is after Love, they should be able to get him. If it goes down Rose-Beasley-Mayo, then the Sonic-Clipper trade goes down with Eric Gordon going at 4 to the Clippers.

Kidd Karma · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

They should do it, but obviously we haven't heard anything is imminent. (draft is <1 hour.)

Well it's still early, seems the rumor is that Love is their choice, otherwise they're out. So we probably won't know until Minny selects, then #4 would either be Mayo to SEattle or Gordon to the Clippers.

bgarrett · 06-26-2008, 06:14 PM

I Personally wouldn't want Gordon.

BGMaverick9 · 06-26-2008, 06:14 PM

Yeah, I'm not sure how Love would not fall to Memphis. They just might not want to get younger, or they want even more cap room.

As for the NJ thing, man...it's dicey to put all your eggs in that LeBron basket. If the Knicks can find some way to get remotely close, the Nets will loose that race. It's a long shot for NY to get that room, but still.

alby · 06-26-2008, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I dont understand why we werent in the RJ race. Maybe Kidd didnt want to play with him again. But I would have done a Howard for RJ.maybe with some other pieces involved

Because the Nets want flexibility to sign the King in 2010, not a pothead to reunite with Devin.
Furthermore, the Nets are going to make a lot of money with the Yi trade with the large Asian population in the NE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgarrett

I Personally wouldn't want Gordon.

I agree. If you had asked me during this time last year--he was my second favorite player heading into college (behind Rose and ahead of Jarryd), but he's fallen far off my list since then--However, he reminds me a lot of Mitch Richmond, we'll see if he gets a chance in the NBA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Yeah, I'm not sure how Love would not fall to Memphis. They just might not want to get younger, or they want even more cap room.

As for the NJ thing, man...it's dicey to put all your eggs in that LeBron basket. If the Knicks can find some way to get remotely close, the Nets will loose that race. It's a long shot for NY to get that room, but still.

I disagree BG, I think the JayZ/Lebron teaming is pretty close to inevitable as you can get in this league.