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Old 03-15-2023, 10:19 PM   #801
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The only play the Mavs run is isolation for Wood on top of the key.
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Old 03-15-2023, 10:33 PM   #802
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If Kidd doesn't get fired the second the season ends, then I'm out. Tragically awful coach.

And Wood is better than Maxi...by a lot.
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Old 03-15-2023, 10:47 PM   #803
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I can?t wait to hand the Knicks the #11 pick this summer and look back at the game Dwight Powell inexplicably turned into prime Dave Cowens for half a game as the reason. Most Mavs-y outcome imaginable.
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So stupid. All of it. Just stupid.
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Lol

I didn't even bother watching this game

But I saw the late game highlights which was typical mavs basketball all year long

Spurs miss the FT

Kleber throws bad pass to inbound the ball gives spurs another shot to tie game and kleber blows defensive assignment to allow late game bucket

That play reminded me of the blown defensive assignment earlier this year by Luka where some team beat Dallas on the final play

Oh well a win is a win
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The actual tanking teams are going to be working hard. As much as we want I don?t see the Mavs organically tanking unless Luka and Kyrie are legit done for the season. Even then Mavs will find a way to give the Knicks the 12 seed for the draft.

What sucks is a half ass finish to the season like 9-4 probably gets them the 6 seed.

Then the org can turn and say see we?re fine. It?s the fans that are doom and gloom.
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All I'm saying is Nico and Cuban seem to just fly under the radar for the poor roster construction

Here's a take from another mavs media site

It started in the offseason with trading for Christian Wood. The 6?10 big man has a unique and special offensive skill set, but he has always been a below-average defender. He just does not fit into the way Kidd wants to play. It is like trying to make spaghetti and meatballs with chicken and rice. There are plenty of delicious meals to cook with the ingredients on hand, but it is not what you want to make.

Beyond that, the Mavs do not have a balanced roster. Their personnel is tilted too heavily towards the offensive end of the floor. Dallas does not have a perimeter stopper or any rim protection. They are the worst rebounding team in the league and dreadful defensively. None of that should fall on Kidd?s shoulders. Owner Mark Cuban and the front office must add more talent this summer or Dallas will face a similar fate next season.

Coach Kidd did not put the roster together, but he should take some blame for how he is making them play.
If Kidd plays Green more earlier in the year or even last season, the pain of losing DFS isnt so severe after the Kyrie trade.

If Kidd plays Hardy more earlier in the year, the Kyrie trade might not have been necessary.

If Kidd plays Wood more than Powell, and plays him at his natural position with a defensive center like McGee, the Mavs would be a better rebounding and defensive team.

I'm sorry, but Kidd is deserving of over 90% of the blame in my opinion.
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I?m old enough to remember when Kidd refused to start Porzingis at center, because he wanted another big on the floor.
Pretty sure KP was the one against playing at the 5...may be mistaken, but I don't recall it being a Kidd decision and the KP playing the 5 debate was born when Carlisle was still the coach.
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If Kidd doesn't get fired the second the season ends, then I'm out. Tragically awful coach.

And Wood is better than Maxi...by a lot.
Kidd put the nail in the coffin for me last night. The entire end of game sequence was more of the same from him.

How does someone who has been around basketball at the highest levels for so long, a hall of famer even, draw up something so stupid? From having Maxi in the game, much less as the in-bounder...to having the option of the back court pass even remotely available when the object is to just simply get the ball in. If it were me, you have a much better passer in-bound the ball to 2 of your best FT options running a play, and a 3rd emergency option in the half of court where you are in bounding.

It's not rocket science, but he sure as hell likes to make it hard.
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What's strange is Kidd's forte is working with and developing guards. Luka, Kyrie, Green, and Hardy all flourishing. If he rode that, then I think he coulda saved his job.

But even with that..he dicked around too much with Hardy and even Green. Why? It's just this strange history of petty mind games with players/fans/whoever.

When he decided to bench Green for Justin Holiday was the last straw for a lot of people.

When Luka and Kyrie come back...just keep Hardy and Green in the starting lineup. They have EARNED it. F defense. Nobody is playing defense on this roster. Time to give up on that idea.

Luka/Kyrie/Hardy/Green/Wood. Who is stopping that offense? I honestly believe it will be good enough to overcome how awful the defense will be. Because again...we aren't playing defense anyway.
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What's strange is Kidd's forte is working with and developing guards. Luka, Kyrie, Green, and Hardy all flourishing. If he rode that, then I think he coulda saved his job.

But even with that..he dicked around too much with Hardy and even Green. Why? It's just this strange history of petty mind games with players/fans/whoever.

When he decided to bench Green for Justin Holiday was the last straw for a lot of people.

When Luka and Kyrie come back...just keep Hardy and Green in the starting lineup. They have EARNED it. F defense. Nobody is playing defense on this roster. Time to give up on that idea.

Luka/Kyrie/Hardy/Green/Wood. Who is stopping that offense? I honestly believe it will be good enough to overcome how awful the defense will be. Because again...we aren't playing defense anyway.
Interesting Stats:
Mavs are currently tied for 10th in PPG for Western Conference teams... and 4th in points allowed. How does that figure? Every Western Conf team sucks at defense?
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Mavs are currently tied for 10th in PPG for Western Conference teams... and 4th in points allowed. How does that figure? Every Western Conf team sucks at defense?
I mean, we're still 23rd in d efficiency (6th last season) and 25th in opp fg%, so total points is a smidge misleading. Strangely though, 8th in opp 3 pt%.

But come on, it's pretty impossible to see anyone trying hard on that end right now.

I mean, it doesn't feel like defense is much of a thing anymore in today's game anyway though. Too many good scorers with the rules making good defense hard to play.

Crappy refs don't help the cause.
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Not looking good for kleber

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Kleber?s athleticism looks absolutely zapped, which I guess shouldn?t be surprising considering the injury Kleber is returning from. Kleber is still making occasional good defensive rotations at the rim, but he only has four blocks and one steal in the six games he?s played since returning.
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I mean, we're still 23rd in d efficiency (6th last season) and 25th in opp fg%, so total points is a smidge misleading. Strangely though, 8th in opp 3 pt%.

But come on, it's pretty impossible to see anyone trying hard on that end right now.

I mean, it doesn't feel like defense is much of a thing anymore in today's game anyway though. Too many good scorers with the rules making good defense hard to play.

Crappy refs don't help the cause.
Defense is very much alive and well now days. Tell this to Memphis, Milwaukee and Cleveland... As well as a few other great defensive teams. Oddly enough it's just the contenders who are committed to defense. It's not hired 3 and D bullshit guys either. It's guys who are coached and who have a solid understandable scheme.
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Pretty sure KP was the one against playing at the 5...may be mistaken, but I don't recall it being a Kidd decision and the KP playing the 5 debate was born when Carlisle was still the coach.
KP wanted to play the 5. Carlisle figured out halfway through his last season that KP should play the 5. Kidd moved him back to the 4 to start the next season. You can confirm this by looking at game logs, but I remember the articles and post game comments coming out at the times.
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KP wanted to play the 5. Carlisle figured out halfway through his last season that KP should play the 5. Kidd moved him back to the 4 to start the next season. You can confirm this by looking at game logs, but I remember the articles and post game comments coming out at the times.
KP never wanted to play the five. He said multiple times he was a natural 4 and was trying to learn the 5 because it?s what coach wanted. With him at the 4 and Powell at the 5, we were just getting wrecked defensively so Rick had to adjust.

The rest could be true but the idea that KP wanted to play the five is mularkey.
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Ugh, of course Callie Caplan's piece is puffy on Kidd and his coaching, really only referencing Green and Powell. I guess the former could be a positive seeing as we saw his demotion and slump as do in large part to Kidd and his rotations/PT for Green.

But no deeper questions it seems, like what were you thinking on the last play design? Who gives a shit how calm you were after it hilariously failed. Why did it fail in the first place? Explain your rotations, etc.

Bleh.
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Ugh, of course Callie Caplan's piece is puffy on Kidd and his coaching, really only referencing Green and Powell. I guess the former could be a positive seeing as we saw his demotion and slump as do in large part to Kidd and his rotations/PT for Green.

But no deeper questions it seems, like what were you thinking on the last play design? Who gives a shit how calm you were after it hilariously failed. Why did it fail in the first place? Explain your rotations, etc.

Bleh.

Kidd is relaxed because he doesn't care. Remember, nobody is going to die if we don't do well this season. Ugh...

Lost a ton of respect for Caplan when she went after Afseth over something petty. Just mad that Grant is doing a better job than her.

Landon Thomas, Grant Afseth, and Iztok Franko are the only ones you can rely on to be honest about the current situation. Anything DMN is generally trash these days.
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Kidd is relaxed because he doesn't care. Remember, nobody is going to die if we don't do well this season. Ugh...

Lost a ton of respect for Caplan when she went after Afseth over something petty. Just mad that Grant is doing a better job than her.

Landon Thomas, Grant Afseth, and Iztok Franko are the only ones you can rely on to be honest about the current situation. Anything DMN is generally trash these days.
I never saw the stuff with Afseth, do tell. And yes, generally agree on DMN.
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KP never wanted to play the five. He said multiple times he was a natural 4 and was trying to learn the 5 because it?s what coach wanted. With him at the 4 and Powell at the 5, we were just getting wrecked defensively so Rick had to adjust.

The rest could be true but the idea that KP wanted to play the five is mularkey.
Not, in fact, malarkey.

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?When I?m at the (power forward position) I only have the option to pop, and when I?m at the (center position) I can pick-and-pop and roll,? the fourth-year veteran said. ?So I can mix it up and just be more involved.?
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Scratching my head as to how Memphis has lost recently to everyone but Dallas

Fuching spurs blowing them out
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Of course Hardy gets relegated to the bench and is playing less minutes than Justin Holiday so far.

Never wonder why people hate Kidd. I absolutely despise a coach that doesn't understand the meaning of earning minutes.
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Just want to say damn it?s great watching Josh Green play. Gonna be fun watching him develop.
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Well they need to figure out how to play Green with Luka. Feel like that is the make or break of the team.
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Minus that Wright three, Wood gave them an 11-0 run

If he?s not scoring, he?s beyond bad
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Lakers have a coach and NBA talent at every position so we?re not winning this one

Kyrie with a crazy efficient banger but if he doesn?t put up 45+, we lose
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Old 03-17-2023, 11:38 PM   #829
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11 point quarters ain?t gonna work
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Lol Kyrie with the takedown of Maxi and then he gave him the people's Elbow!!!
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Miracle win tonight. THJ and Wood killed them in the 4th but Maxi stepped up and Kyrie was his usual self. Back in the 6 spot!
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Well they need to figure out how to play Green with Luka. Feel like that is the make or break of the team.
Josh Green plays at 100 miles per hour.....I don't know if he and Luka will ever mesh. Just plays too slow.
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That was a shocking fun finish.

Feel good for Kleber. Had to feel like crap being a idiot last game...But has to be sweeter being the winner of this one.
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Miracle win tonight. THJ and Wood killed them in the 4th but Maxi stepped up and Kyrie was his usual self. Back in the 6 spot!
Two of the lowest iq players on the team and fans wonder why kidd doesn't trust wood

It's also why they couldn't trade either guy because no one else wants them

THJ committed the stupidest foul on Reaves

DFS and Dinwiddie might not be as talented as those two but they are smarter players

I watched the 2nd half of this game and Kidd looks like he wanted to play bigger lineups but Powell + Wood together is shit fest defensively
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And of course I turned it off, Mavs down 4 with 15 to go. Gna.
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Honest opinion

On that last play would Luka had passed the ball or taken a tough step back 3?

I believe with 6 seconds left he would have dribbled the clock down and took the step back 3
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Great win for the standings.

First win of the season on the final possession
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Noticed that Kidd was in on the dog-pile of Maxi - rare to see a coach do that.
Nice win for our now 6th place Mavs - glass half full.
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I'm a little surprised Kyrie didnt flip it to Hardaway who was closer and clock was getting close to 0.
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I'm a little surprised Kyrie didnt flip it to Hardaway who was closer and clock was getting close to 0.
I'm sure Kyrie knew that THJ was just 4-12 for the night. Why pass it to someone who is clearly off?
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