we staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Dude they didn't score a single points for the last two and a half minutes of the game. It was their fourth loss all year at home.

Great win, but it was just ugly at the end. Midrange jumpers clanging off the rim in fourth, Stevenson's ridiculous 3 pointers, Kidd's terrible pass to Dirk that got intercepted by Garnett, Terry's pass to Dirk's legs on that game-winning possession, and Kidd taking that out of rhythm three pointer (that he ended up hitting). Those things kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

Granted that's Celtics ball so I suppose you have to expect a game like that, and the D from our side was certainly up to snuff at the end.

[CadBane]

Something I love with Tyson.

Often he'll catch a pass near the basket, but a defender in the vicinity. What does he do? He hammers it the hell home! Far too often with Damp/Diop those plays end up in FTS (which they often miss) or them getting their ish thrown because they go up too slow and too weak.

[mavs777]

interesting counting method

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by FINtastic

Great win, but it was just ugly at the end. Midrange jumpers clanging off the rim in fourth, Stevenson's ridiculous 3 pointers, Kidd's terrible pass to Dirk that got intercepted by Garnett, Terry's pass to Dirk's legs on that game-winning possession, and Kidd taking that out of rhythm three pointer (that he ended up hitting). Those things kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

Granted that's Celtics ball so I suppose you have to expect a game like that, and the D from our side was certainly up to snuff at the end.

The Kidd pass wasn't great, but lets be real, KG only got that because he blatantly held Dirk.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Something I love with Tyson.

Often he'll catch a pass near the basket, but a defender in the vicinity. What does he do? He hammers it the hell home! Far too often with Damp/Diop those plays end up in FTS (which they often miss) or them getting their ish thrown because they go up too slow and too weak.

He can show off the patience too by doing a quick fake to get the defender out of the way.

Hell, he's already won the battle by catching the f'n ball...

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by CadBane

The Kidd pass wasn't great, but lets be real, KG only got that because he blatantly held Dirk.

KG held him a little bit, but Kidd threw that to a place you never throw it too when you are throwing it to your post player. Kidd knows better than that.

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Something I love with Tyson.

Often he'll catch a pass near the basket, but a defender in the vicinity. What does he do? He hammers it the hell home! Far too often with Damp/Diop those plays end up in FTS (which they often miss) or them getting their ish thrown because they go up too slow and too weak.

I personally kind of miss the adventure that began when Diop would catch a pass down by the rim.

[Mav Addict]

KG did shove the refs arm...I have never seen a player do that and not be penalized

Barea air balled that 3 after the KG tech because his hands were sweaty

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by FINtastic

I personally kind of miss the adventure that began when Diop would catch a pass down by the rim.

Lolz, it was truly comedic. Man that guy was just awful around the rim. He would manage to botch seemingly wide open dunks. If I recall, he'd often inexplicably shuffle his feet and travel in some of those situations.

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by mavs777

interesting counting method

Hilarious - I didn't even catch it at first. Rep.

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by mavs777

interesting counting method

Interesting grasp of the English language.

[BGMaverick9]

it was a b2b scenario but SA went 0-2 in early January on the road against NY and Boston

[mavs777]

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by mavs777

http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS

Cheat, Celtics and Fakers all in bottom 3rd. Niceeee...

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by jthig32

If this bit doesn't stop soon I'm going to start banning people.

This isn't a democracy.

Ban away, says me.

[dalger]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Cheat, Celtics and Fakers all in bottom 3rd. Niceeee...

The good thing is that the Lakers' schedule is going to be a whole lot tougher from now on. I can definitely see us keep that 2nd spot in the conference, unless the Lakers decided to play like champions again and we were to be plagued by injuries again.

[DavidDaMonkey]

Originally Posted by CadBane

Thoughts:

3. JJB started hot, but he played pretty awful later on. I think KG really got in his head with the punk T. JJB is pretty mentally weak. He airballed a three right after that and forced a few shots. Remember against N.O. when he missed like 4 fts in a row to lose the game?

Interesting. I seem to remember him coming out even stronger and more focused after his confrontation with BDiddy in the Warrior's game.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by FINtastic

Great win, but it was just ugly at the end. Midrange jumpers clanging off the rim in fourth, Stevenson's ridiculous 3 pointers, Kidd's terrible pass to Dirk that got intercepted by Garnett, Terry's pass to Dirk's legs on that game-winning possession, and Kidd taking that out of rhythm three pointer (that he ended up hitting). Those things kind of stick out like a sore thumb.

Granted that's Celtics ball so I suppose you have to expect a game like that, and the D from our side was certainly up to snuff at the end.

Hey...that was a really good defensive team they were playing out there...You just have to give credit that the other team is playing hard as well.

The open 3's from Dsteve/Jet were disconcerting..but points are tough at the end. The pass from kidd never gets intercepted if garnett were not allowed to turn dirk with his off arm, like he was allowed to all night.

You have to appreciate how tough that win was man and not focus negatively on those plays..They don't stick out at all, what sticks out is that they had them, didn't quit and pulled it out IN SPITE of them, that's what sticks out.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Hey...that was a really good defensive team they were playing out there...You just have to give credit that the other team is playing hard as well.

The open 3's from Dsteve/Jet were disconcerting..but points are tough at the end. The pass from kidd never gets intercepted if garnett were not allowed to turn dirk with his off arm, like he was allowed to all night.

You have to appreciate how tough that win was man and not focus negatively on those plays..They don't stick out at all, what sticks out is that they had them, didn't quit and pulled it out IN SPITE of them, that's what sticks out.

Exactly - a lesser player would have pouted all the way back to the defensive end, blown his assignment, given up some points and lost the game.

Both Terry and Stevenson nutted up after those airballs and forced the issue at the other end of the floor - that's how you win games in this league.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

Interesting. I seem to remember him coming out even stronger and more focused after his confrontation with BDiddy in the Warrior's game.

There is nothing mentally weak about jjb, only weak posters......He just isn't a good enough player to keep up that pace..

[wilmtalk]

Originally Posted by dmavs1980

It is nice to see the Mavs winning without having a true consistent second option. Just goes to show that having a great defense will give you the opportunity to win ballgames even with a mediocre offense.

I would rather have good ball movement that allows a variety of players to get good shots than have a set individual who carrys the role of second option. The team has always played better when the ball goes through Dirks hands because he facilitates ball movement that involves other team members. Some so called second options require specific touches to be effective often at the expense of ball movement and team involvement.

Notice Chandler is becoming more offensively effective. He was a real offensive threat when he first came into the league but was directed to focus on defense. I believe the longer he plays here the more of an offensive threat he will become. I don't think this team really needs a #2 option in the traditional sense. A lot of options would serve the same purpose only better.
Number two options can often times disappear during a season. And there is no garantee that the Number one and number two would not have simultaniously bad games disappearing at the same time. It is much better to have multiple options through team balence.

[mavs777]

I am still confused by the poor or mediocre offense or whatever it is that 1 poster said. We shot 49.4% from the field, 47.1% from 3, and 88.2 % from the line, we did have 14 TO's which is a couple too many but the offense looked good yesterday against a very good defense

[dmavs1980]

Originally Posted by mavs777

I am still confused by the poor or mediocre offense or whatever it is that 1 poster said. We shot 49.4% from the field, 47.1% from 3, and 88.2 % from the line, we did have 14 TO's which is a couple too many but the offense looked good yesterday against a very good defense

The offense did look good yesterday don't get me wrong, there are just times where the offense becomes very stagnate and is jumpshot heavy( 3rd quarter). Mavs have been playing well the past few games on offense though but when the defense clamps down, can they still keep up that offensive efficiency? They showed that they could last night.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by wilmtalk

I would rather have good ball movement that allows a variety of players to get good shots than have a set individual who carrys the role of second option. The team has always played better when the ball goes through Dirks hands because he facilitates ball movement that involves other team members. Some so called second options require specific touches to be effective often at the expense of ball movement and team involvement.

Notice Chandler is becoming more offensively effective. He was a real offensive threat when he first came into the league but was directed to focus on defense. I believe the longer he plays here the more of an offensive threat he will become. I don't think this team really needs a #2 option in the traditional sense. A lot of options would serve the same purpose only better.
Number two options can often times disappear during a season. And there is no garantee that the Number one and number two would not have simultaniously bad games disappearing at the same time. It is much better to have multiple options through team balence.

I think when you have no ball movement, there's no motion, movement, it allows the defense to setup and grind. when you move the ball around the defenders have to chase, when distracted by chasing, you send players to the cup to creat open lanes. I really liked the offense when Kidd was in Jersey, especially his first year, there was KVH setting up for the homerun, KMart, RJ, Kittles slashing or popping for the catch and pop. It was a great mix. But once they got Carter, it allowed defenders to get balanced and set up to defend.

[Underdog]

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