$hillary vs. Drumpf

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

My booth didn't have a curtain, so it was weird when everyone saw me nakedly soiling Trump and Hillary's names on the ballot.

[EricaLubarsky]

What is your fondest memory of living?

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

What is your fondest memory of living?

Hillary Clinton getting taken down.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Hillary Clinton getting taken down.

That's technically not a memory (yet).... Also, it's only a 4-point contest now.

[DirkFTW]

Realitexit in progress it seems

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Hillary Clinton getting taken down.

Perhaps a public hanging. Trump is so good at theatrics. We don't need American morals!

[DirkFTW]

I just bought a million shares of quikrete stock in case this trajectory holds true.

[DirkFTW]

"To provoke a war, just tweet @realDonaldTrump here and here."

[DirkFTW]

No result would have made me happy tonight, but this will have to do as a consolation prize:

[Underdog]

Cubs win the World Series, Trump is president... Dammit, Marty!

[Murphy3]

I can agree. I cannot stand Trump but I cannot stand Hillary a little bit more.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

I can agree. I cannot stand Trump but I cannot stand Hillary a little bit more.

It's not about who I can "stand", but who I can trust to actually do the job... I think Trump is in love with the idea of being president, but I doubt he actually wants to be the president, because being the president is boring as hell -- it's mostly long meetings full of red tape & bureaucracy. He doesn't strike me as the type who has the patience for all that, but that's what the job is. It has none of the glam of running his own corporation.

So who's going to be running things? Mike Pence? Paul Ryan? Vladmir Putin? Who the F knows??? At least with Hillary (or Cruz/Rubio/Bush) you know who the hell is running this country... Now we're putting the most powerful nation in the world into who-the-F-knows hands. That's just irresponsible.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by Underdog

It's not about who I can "stand", but who I can trust to actually do the job... I think Trump is in love with the idea of being president, but I doubt he actually wants to be the president, because being the president is boring as hell -- it's mostly long meetings full of red tape & bureaucracy. He doesn't strike me as the type who has the patience for all that, but that's what the job is. It has none of the glam of running his own corporation.

So who's going to be running things? Mike Pence? Paul Ryan? Vladmir Putin? Who the F knows??? At least with Hillary (or Cruz/Rubio/Bush) you know who the hell is running this country... Now we're putting the most powerful nation in the world into who-the-F-knows hands. That's just irresponsible.

Honestly, I'd rather take my chances with who the f knows than Hillary Clinton. She has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is corrupt. I think we have a good idea who will be involved in running the country.

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Honestly, I'd rather take my chances with who the f knows than Hillary Clinton. She has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is corrupt. I think we have a good idea who will be involved in running the country.

This is my view and I believe the same view of the vast majority of Trump voters. When Clinton should be in jail for what she's done and instead is nearly becoming president, it is scary as hell what she could actually get away with AS president.

Originally Posted by GermanDunk

I think Trump is going to have a hard time in the Oval Office. He probably does not know how public work works and i think he has no effing clue of foreign policy. Plus, president is a 28/7 job and you have to read tons of papers, understand them quickly and put that into a context, where experience is needed, which he does not have. He definately has one of the toughest jobs, a land has to offer. Lots of work ahead.

I honestly don't mean to be condescending but isn't this pretty obvious? In my view, the president is a lot like Steve Jobs. He says, I want "this" so go make it happen even though I don't know the minute details on how it works. It's like any other senior leadership position, you rely on the experts reporting to you to ensure the actual work meets your requirements.

And I've always believed that being president, you should get minimal vacations. You have the most important job arguably in the entire world and certainly in the US ... FOR FOUR YEARS ... so suck it up and work your ass off. Then you don't have to do a damn thing the rest of your life. How hard would you work knowing that you are set FOR LIFE after just four years?

Originally Posted by Underdog

@inafried: The Canadian immigration site -- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ -- is currently down, presumably under the strain of unprecedented demand.

You know what? I'm tired of people "threatening" to leave. Do it. Get the F out. If you are going to act like a spoiled little kid and cannot at least be civil with people that have a difference of opinion, then get out and give up your US citizenship. This is especially true for celebrities trying to tell us what to do just because of their fame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulZ3C9nTFJA

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

You know what? I'm tired of people "threatening" to leave. Do it. Get the F out. If you are going to act like a spoiled little kid and cannot at least be civil with people that have a difference of opinion, then get out and give up your US citizenship. This is especially true for celebrities trying to tell us what to do just because of their fame.

Because Trump supporters are known for their civility. Especially to minorities.

They're in for a rude awakening when Trump lowers taxes on the rich resulting in less money for infrastructure and education. They thought Trump was their candidate. I'm sure they'll manage to blame the Mexicans or the Muslims though.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Underdog

So who's going to be running things? Mike Pence? Paul Ryan? Vladmir Putin? Who the F knows???

Originally Posted by Murphy3

I think we have a good idea who will be involved in running the country.

Derp.

Vice President-Elect Pence to Take Over Trump Transition Effort

[Underdog]

If the election is "rigged," did Trump's buddy, Putin, hack the machines so he could win? Or is that only the narrative when you lose?

Also, the so-called "liberal media" gave this clown 24/7 news coverage for the last year, so unlike Perot, he didn't spend a penny of his own money on advertising... How are we spinning that narrative? Their ratings should continue to be through the roof for the next 4 years -- seems like their guy won.

[Underdog]

Also, Hillary Clinton is a garbage presidential candidate and she absolutely deserved to get beat by this orange sack of crap... This is as much the Democratic Party's fault as anyone's.

I wonder how Bernie "Pie-in-the-Sky" Sanders would have fared?

[Underdog]

‏@maxseddon: Russia's parliament just erupted in applause after Trump's victory was confirmed, per Interfax.


No conspiracies here, comrade!

[GermanDunk]

I think Trump is going to have a hard time in the Oval Office. He probably does not know how public work works and i think he has no effing clue of foreign policy. Plus, president is a 28/7 job and you have to read tons of papers, understand them quickly and put that into a context, where experience is needed, which he does not have. He definately has one of the toughest jobs, a land has to offer. Lots of work ahead.

[Underdog]

@inafried: The Canadian immigration site -- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ -- is currently down, presumably under the strain of unprecedented demand.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Only Hillary could lose to Trump. What a sh** show.

[DirkFTW]

Trump Day One:

• DOJ investigation of any facilities that discriminated against both bloggers and ESPN reporters

• 90% tax on shark tanks

• 90% tax on Dallas basketball teams

• 90% personal tax on Cubans named Mark

[bunkmoreland]

I don't blame people who voted for a Trump. They don't know any better.
This is on the DNC and Democratic primary voters who prevented Bernie from winning the Democratic nomination in a year and political climate in which it was so blatantly obvious he had a better chance to beat Trump than Hillary did.
They would have called this election by 9pm Central for Bernie.

[dude1394]

I see the echo chamber is still alive and well.

[DirkFTW]

"If we don't squeeze or make eye contact, it's like it never happened..."

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

I don't blame people who voted for a Trump. They don't know any better.
This is on the DNC and Democratic primary voters who prevented Bernie from winning the Democratic nomination in a year and political climate in which it was so blatantly obvious he had a better chance to beat Trump than Hillary did.
They would have called this election by 9pm Central for Bernie.

This on the "greatest democracy on earth" still having an old horseshit electoral system. AGAIN the candidate with the popular vote wont be president. Thats a giant pile of democracy horseshit. Yeah every vote counts the same blabla.

Also the 3638393 ways of throwing sticks between the legs of certain people/groups to make sure they wont/cant vote (*coughrepublicanscough*)

Your whole democratic system is broken. Since long time. And everyone knows and dont do shit about it...

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by sefant77

This on the "greatest democracy on earth" still having an old horseshit electoral system. AGAIN the candidate with the popular vote wont be president. Thats a giant pile of democracy horseshit. Yeah every vote counts the same blabla.

Also the 3638393 ways of throwing sticks between the legs of certain people/groups to make sure they wont/cant vote (*coughrepublicanscough*)

Your whole democratic system is broken. Since long time. And everyone knows and dont do shit about it...

Think of it more like rewarding a team based on the number of games won v. the number of points scored. Beating Philadelphia by 50 counts the same as beating Cleveland by 1. We've got no patience for Hollinger's sh*t analytics here.

[GermanDunk]

Originally Posted by sefant77

This on the "greatest democracy on earth" still having an old horseshit electoral system. AGAIN the candidate with the popular vote wont be president. Thats a giant pile of democracy horseshit. Yeah every vote counts the same blabla.

Also the 3638393 ways of throwing sticks between the legs of certain people/groups to make sure they wont/cant vote (*coughrepublicanscough*)

Your whole democratic system is broken. Since long time. And everyone knows and dont do shit about it...

Hm, in England, they have a similar system. US is probably harder to run than Belgium, but i agree in general. Maybe there should be a 10% scale or quintiles, where votes are attributed when you climb the next scale.
But the US system has an advantage, because it balances the votes of the cities vs. people on the countrysite. Not perfectly, but to a certain degree.

As for the example Brexit. Every poll station in England had "out" except for London and the result was not 80/20, haha, because there are 10 million living in the London area.
I wonder what the vote of an egypt farmer, 10 miles off of Kairo, is worth...

[DirkFTW]

[sefant77]

3. We had 8 years of Obama trying his way and I did sincerely hope he would be a great president just so we could all legitimately say that our first black president was great. At the end of his term, America is more divided in more ways than I've ever seen it in my adult life of 25+ years. This bothers me the most of anything else that is attributed to him both good and bad.

Hard to do anything when congress fucks with everything and blocks everything for eight years on the sole purpose to gain back the power because Obama "gets nothing done"

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Hard to do anything when congress fucks with everything and blocks everything for eight years on the sole purpose to gain back the power because Obama "gets nothing done"

This is what makes me laugh (and then cry because most dont see it this way).

GOP set out and explicitly stated we will block anything Obama does. Then they and along with every republican out there can point and say seeeeeee he did nothing.

My god if you really think Obama accomplished nothing in 8 years, dont ever discuss politics because any opinion you have will be undermined by your blind hate.

And believe me (LOL), if you think the divide in this country is bad now? It only gets worse from here. As stupid as it sounds, social media is killing this country. Every little thing is amplified and we are oversaturated. Every fringe moron has a voice, and somehow it gets repeated and passed around until its legitimized and believed by its supporters on both sides. I dont know if any president can fix a racial divide. (It damn sure wont be trump)

[Murphy3]

Need a tissue?

[sefant77]

Yeah, had tears of laughing reading crap like this:

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Honestly, I'd rather take my chances with who the f knows than Hillary Clinton. She has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is corrupt. I think we have a good idea who will be involved in running the country.

[bunkmoreland]

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ricans-support

If you think Hillary should have won and that all Trump voters are racists, sexists, fascists,
this article from the liberal Guardian is pretty good at dispelling that. There are some credible reasons that people voted for him in spite of him being an asshole.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ricans-support

If you think Hillary should have won and that all Trump voters are racists, sexists, fascists,
this article from the liberal Guardian is pretty good at dispelling that. There are some credible reasons that people voted for him in spite of him being an asshole.

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

I totally understand WHY the people didnt want to vote for Clinton. But voting for Trump just wasnt really an option. Michael Moore and others calling it "people just wanted to throw a handgrenate in the system". But its not a handgrenate, its a suicide bombvest...

And sooner or later the people are going to realize this. Lets see how much trump is going the help the angry rural parts of the country.

And as a fellow german, this picture says it all:

[bunkmoreland]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The voters might not be bigots, but they voted for a guy who platformed to ban certain races and religions from this country... Obviously the hate for Hillary runs deeper than any discomfort of flat-out bigotry. You might be comfortable with that, but the rest of us aren't. It's like everyone who voted for him is just ignoring what this guy SAID for the last year.

FFS, pick up a book and read about the rise of the Nazi party in Germany. This is history repeating itself. Everyone who voted for Trump is complicit.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not comfortable with that. I didn't vote for him. And I'm very worried.
But the Democrats have a share of blame to take too. Hillary ignored white working class Middle Americans' valid concerns about trade and the economy just as much as she ignored racist, misogynistic, nationalistic, anti-immigrant fervor.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by bunkmoreland

Don't get me wrong. I'm not comfortable with that. I didn't vote for him. And I'm very worried.

Then I'm sorry if I directed any of my last post at you.

But the Democrats have a share of blame to take too. Hillary ignored white working class Middle Americans' valid concerns about trade and the economy just as much as she ignored racist, misogynistic, nationalistic, anti-immigrant fervor.

I agree with all of that... I wonder how this election would have turned out if Bernie got the nod? Or better yet, Joe Biden... I absolutely hate that the Dems saw the last 8 years as just "keeping the seat warm" for Hillary. She was the most despised presidential nominee in US history until Trump came along. This election was a complete shitshow.

I think both parties chose loathsome candidates this election. I'm not a Republican, but I would have voted for Kasich over Hillary... Maybe even Jeb! or Rubio (although I think Cruz was just as bad as Clinton, although for completely different reasons)... Like, I would have been happy with any result in a Biden vs. Kasich race.

And of course, a Trump presidency is a lot more scary with the Republicans winning both the House and the Senate, soon to be followed by the Supreme Court... The last time one party had that much power was 1929, which of course resulted in the Great Depression... Unless the Republicans stand up to this guy, he's going to have all the power to do whatever pops into that stupid little head of his. I dunno about you, but I'm a bit uncomfortable with the idea of Paul Ryan being our last line of defense against an all-out dictatorship.

[DoYouEvenLift]

The electorial college is a beautiful thing. It gives a bunch of electorial to places like California (55) so it's not as if it doesn't account for population. That's the most by a lot. To win you have to win the swing states that are divided and Trump won all of those. There is no debating if California will go Democrat and Texas will go Republican so it's not fair to just straight count votes because of illegals that shouldn't get to vote but their vote counts. American democracy is a beautiful thing. If Trump won the popular vote and Hillary won the Dems would have no issue with it at all of course.

I'm not really a Republican but I cannot stand Hillary Clinton or Bill. If there was a woman democrat who I believed was not corrupt and I believe cared about America and not trying to screw us with crap like ObamaCare I would vote for her no issues. I would never have voted for Hillary Clinton. If someone wants to debate me on that go ahead but The Clintons have been murdering people and pulling money scams since Bill was Governor of Arkansas do some research if you really care to know the truth, or don't if you don't I don't care. Hillary and Bill still need to be prosecuted for the scam charity that is the Clinton Foundation which made them super rich.