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Pistons make offer to Wallace
Chicago has been rumored to have offered him a 4 years/$60 million deal. Some radio stations in Chicago have reported that it's 5 years/$75 million.
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/stories...110.xml&coll=1 Pistons offer Wallace 4-year, $48 million deal Sunday, July 02, 2006 By A. Sherrod Blakely AUBURN HILLS -- The Detroit Pistons got the ball rolling on negotiations with Ben Wallace on Saturday, offering the unrestricted free agent a four-year contract worth $48 million. In presenting the proposed deal to Wallace's agent, Arn Tellum, Detroit offered Wallace a contract that would make him the highest-paid player in Pistons history. Tellum was one of the few agents the Pistons spoke with on Saturday, the first day of free agency in the NBA. That's because the Pistons have to determine whether they can re-sign Wallace, a four-time All-Star, before they pursue other free agents. Aware of the Pistons' priority regarding Wallace, agents didn't expect a call back from Detroit on Saturday. Bill Duffy represents several of the more prominent free agents this summer, such as ex-Piston Mike James, Drew Gooden, Fred Jones, Michael Olowokandi (who played for Pistons coach Flip Saunders in Minnesota), and Speedy Claxton, who Joe Dumars, Detroit's president of basketball operations, is interested in. "Joe's inundated with Ben Wallace right now," said Duffy, who also represents Pistons forward Tayshaun Prince. "That's where his focus is right now. We agents understand that." Dumars' commitment to taking care of his own players, Duffy said, is among reasons other players are attracted to Detroit. "That's one of his children, so you can understand why that's something Joe is really focusing in on right now," said Duffy, referring to Wallace. "He knows that part of the appeal to coming to Detroit is playing with Ben Wallace." Still, William Phillips, who represents Bonzi Wells, said he was contacted by the Pistons regarding Wells. A former Pistons draft pick, Wells had a great playoff series for Sacramento this spring. Although the Kings lost their first-round series in six games to the San Antonio Spurs, Wells was arguably the series' best player. The 6-foot-5 guard averaged 23.2 points and 12 rebounds per game while shooting 60.9 percent from the field in the series. The Pistons may be willing to offer Wells a multi-year contract that would start at the mid-level exception, which should be about $5 million next season. However, because of Wells' strong postseason, other teams may be willing to pay him more than that. Another player the Pistons may pursue later this summer as a backup point guard is ex-Piston Chucky Atkins. They also could re-sign Tony Delk or Lindsey Hunter.
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07-01-2006, 11:51 PM
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Decent offer, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Chicago top it.
It's a longshot, but if Ben Wallace wants 4 years @ $60 million and Detroit isn't willing, we could offer Stackhouse, Daniels, and Diop. That would get Detroit a servicable center and some depth, and they could save a bundle as Stack comes off the books next year. Mavs Roster: Devin Harris / Free agent (James?) Jason Terry / Maurice Ager Josh Howard / Griffin Dirk Nowitzki / Wallace Ben Wallace / Dampier Last edited by Stranger; 07-01-2006 at 11:53 PM. |
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07-02-2006, 12:07 AM
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I don't think he'll accept that. I bet he goes to chicago if their offer is that much higher than the Pistons'.
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"He's as valuable as anyone. The most unusual thing is that they lose last year's MVP and still get better. It's unheard of." "For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man "We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people." |
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"He's as valuable as anyone. The most unusual thing is that they lose last year's MVP and still get better. It's unheard of." "For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man "We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people." |
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07-02-2006, 12:08 PM
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LOL @the above. Yea how many times have we been screwed over by a player who's agent is Bill Duffy? That guy uses the shi* out of us. Offering any of his clients a deal is useless.
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07-02-2006, 02:04 PM
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A double sign and trade might happen with Bonzi going to the Pistons and Wallace going to the Kings.
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Chicago is going to take out Miami in the playoffs next year, I'm calling it now. They might even do in Detriot too.
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Betting against Antoine Walker is always a good idea, regardless of what happened last year.
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Obviously we would play Wallace over Damp against PHX.. Not sure if it will be as good as this year, but Damp just isn't an option. |
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07-03-2006, 02:01 AM
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 Nah, you'd play Wallace.
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07-03-2006, 04:52 AM
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Pistons' initial offer irks Wallace
Center expected it would be for more than $49.6 million, but hasn't closed door on team. Chris McCosky / The Detroit News AUBURN HILLS -- The Pistons' negotiations to re-sign free agent Ben Wallace have gotten off to a rough start. Wallace, in an interview with The Detroit News on Sunday, said he wasn't pleased with the Pistons' initial offer. "It was disappointing," he said. "It was not at all what I expected." The Pistons' initial offer was a four-year deal starting at $11.5 million and would pay him $49.6 million over four years. It would make Wallace the highest-paid player on the team next season, eclipsing Rasheed Wallace's salary by $100,000. Pistons president Joe Dumars, reached by e-mail, said he didn't want to negotiate through the newspaper and declined comment. Wallace met with Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson and coach Scott Skiles in Detroit on Saturday. He characterized the meeting as "real good" but added that no official offer was extended. Reports of the Bulls offering a contract starting at $13 million or $14 million were overstated, as were reports of the Bulls offering a five-year deal. "I ain't looking for more than four years," said Wallace, who will turn 32 on Sept. 10. Wallace said he expects to hear from several other teams, including Washington, New York and Cleveland, as early as today. Those teams don't have the salary cap space to sign Wallace, but would be looking to facilitate a sign-and-trade in case the Pistons and Wallace reach an impasse. They are not yet at that point, Wallace said. "No, the door's not closed (on the Pistons)," he said. "I know it's a business and they have to run their business." Wallace also understands that it was only an initial offer and those typically are lower than what the Pistons truly intend to pay. "I just thought we had a pretty good run there (with the Pistons) and I thought the offer would have been a bit better," he said. "I didn't think we had to really negotiate like that at this point. I just thought that initial offer wasn't altogether fair." It is somewhat interesting that the Bulls would visit with Wallace and not leave him with an offer. Initially, Wallace didn't figure into the Bulls' offseason plans. They drafted Tyrus Thomas, a rugged, 6-foot-9 power forward much in the mold of Wallace with the same offensive limitations. They have been shopping 7-footer Tyson Chandler around the league in hopes of getting a more offensive-minded big man, perhaps someone like Golden State's Troy Murphy or Utah's Carlos Boozer, and had their free-agent sights on a less-expensive center such as Joel Przybilla or Nazr Mohammed. Paxson started making overtures toward Wallace only after being encouraged by owner Jerry Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf has done a lot of successful business over the years with Wallace's agent, Arn Tellem, who might have pushed for the Bulls to consider Wallace. It could be a win-win situation for the Bulls. If they sign Wallace, they can lessen the pressure on Thomas' development. And if they don't , they still damage the Pistons by raising Wallace's sticker price. "I am just sitting here on the unemployment line, waiting," Wallace said. "That's all I can do right now." Meanwhile, the Phoenix Suns have met with Lindsey Hunter and apparently offered him their bi-annual exception, which would pay him $3 million over the next two seasons. Hunter, who is leaning toward returning for a 14th season, has said he wants to finish his career with the Pistons.
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Noone should offer him 5 years. He's 32 right now. He's only gonna give u 2 good years and one average year. I'm sure detroit will let him go.
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07-03-2006, 08:55 AM
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I read somewhere that there was a 36-year-old-rule. The gist of it was that a team couldn't extend a player past 36 years. So that would cause ben to only be eligible for 4 years anyway, so the statement is sorta weird.
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07-03-2006, 10:13 AM
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Technically you can sign someone beyond 36, it's just undesirable salary cap wise: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#49
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Ah yes that was it. So you can extend a guy that is 35 past 36, say to 40 but his total complete salary would count against the cap.
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The Bulls have already offered 4/52mil, so Detroit would have to re-up.
Wonder if they are regretting the Darko trade? |
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