GDT: game 6 - Mavs (2-3) at Bulls (2-4) 7:00 FSSW - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 01-03-2021, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Brunson just went full donic with that air ball, during this game he's having.

He's learning from the best

sefant77 · 01-03-2021, 10:23 PM

aand Brunson throws the game away

EricaLubarsky · 01-03-2021, 10:25 PM

I mean, we lost, but also we had a decent game without our two stars.

What other team wins without their top two players?>

ChampsAgainShoon · 01-03-2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I wonder if McCarthy is watching this game and realizing you can't save your timeouts so might as well use it on a challenge like Rick

My thought is he just had really low energy at the time and didn't feel like moving his arm.

tap2390 · 01-03-2021, 10:26 PM

We are one sorry ass squad.

SMC0007 · 01-03-2021, 10:27 PM

Standing ovation for Brunson tonight!

Dallas41 · 01-03-2021, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampsAgainShoon

My thought is he just had really low energy at the time and didn't feel like moving his arm.

LMAO

SMC0007 · 01-03-2021, 10:30 PM

Get Kleber a look

Dallas41 · 01-03-2021, 10:30 PM

Thank you THJ

I'm just leave it at that now because you have frustrated me beyond the point

SMC0007 · 01-03-2021, 10:31 PM

Nope. THJ had to stick his little dick out. That's easily his 5th terrible shot tonight.

EricaLubarsky · 01-03-2021, 10:31 PM

I mean; did anyone expect us to win?

I think we played alright

Dallas41 · 01-03-2021, 10:32 PM

BTW in that win over Miami he scored 18 points on 6/18 shooting and it's become so bad with him that the local media in Dallas considered that a good game.

FreshJive · 01-03-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tgfan

It'll be well worth it to me, as I want to see what the Mavs can do in the absence of Luka chucking near hopeless deep three pointers. Give the rest of the team a chance to see what they can do.

How’d it go?!?!

Dallas41 · 01-03-2021, 10:39 PM

Woods is going to destroy Powell tomorrow book it

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-03-2021, 10:47 PM

Sucks WCS fouled out, but he's still 10 times better than Powell.

Ugh...

tgfan · 01-03-2021, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

How’d it go?!?!

Actually, Brunson replaced Luka pretty nicely. 31 points and look at his line! It was our big men who sucked the game away.

FreshJive · 01-03-2021, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tgfan

Actually, Brunson replaced Luka pretty nicely. 31 points and look at his line! It was our big men who sucked the game away.

They should just trade Luka.

tgfan · 01-03-2021, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

They should just trade Luka.

There are several NBA players I would take for Luka.

FreshJive · 01-03-2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tgfan

There are several NBA players I would take for Luka.

There should only be 1.

SMC0007 · 01-03-2021, 11:07 PM

Fwiw, There is nota single player I would trade Luka for.

FreshJive · 01-03-2021, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Fwiw, There is nota single player I would trade Luka for.

I’ll allow Giannis as an answer, but anyone else is just a terrible opinion. Pretty sure this dude is trolling, though.

Dallas41 · 01-04-2021, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Sucks WCS fouled out, but he's still 10 times better than Powell.

Ugh...

This is what they run out there every night in the middle

Defense, no, everything around the rim continues to be an issue
Before tonight’s game, the Mavericks were giving up a league-worst 71% of attempts around the rim. That stat did not improve tonight, as the Bulls were able to get pretty much whatever they wanted in the paint. Each of the Mavericks front court options had their own set of problems defensively.

Powell in particular was torched at the rim, continuing his trend of being statistically the worst defender at the rim by far among starting centers (81.3% opponent field goal percentage at the rim).

ChampsAgainShoon · 01-04-2021, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

I’ll allow Giannis as an answer, but anyone else is just a terrible opinion. Pretty sure this dude is trolling, though.

Why though. Luka is younger and Giannis has proven he can't deliver in the playoffs. Although yeah there's no one else but I'm not taking Giannis over Luka.

FreshJive · 01-04-2021, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChampsAgainShoon

Why though. Luka is younger and Giannis has proven he can't deliver in the playoffs. Although yeah there's no one else but I'm not taking Giannis over Luka.

I'm a charitable person. all people are entitled to their amazing opinions.

tap2390 · 01-04-2021, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

I'm a charitable person. all people are entitled to their amazing opinions.

Nothing says "opinion" like responding to a reasonable take like this. I respect your take.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2021, 09:26 AM

I can't believe I have to say this, but...

1) This is a place for Mavs fans who want the Mavs to succeed. We want to have a happy community, even during losses. Please don't make this a pity party or use every post to attack players and coaches.

2) This is a place for respect. Please don't attack other posters of insult their opinions, as ill-informed as they may be. Respect them by making arguments or by simply moving on, not by calling opinions stupid.

ChampsAgainShoon · 01-04-2021, 09:46 AM

Lol I wonder what his original post was. Oh well....

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-04-2021, 10:05 AM

Yikes. And what has happened to DFS? Was last year just a fluke?

https://twitter.com/RyanMainville/st...01964350906370

VA-Mavs-Fan · 01-04-2021, 10:36 AM

well, maybe its time to get Tyler Bey some minutes along the way. He is supposed to be a very good defender, yeah, I know he's green. he might be the next very good player on our team, but i am afraid if we don't get these young guys some minutes along the way, we are going to give them away at a low value, without knowing what we have, and/or we won't develop them, we will keep putting out the same ol no defense bigs with Powell, etc. Personally, i'd like to see all 4 rookies get some minutes. that's probably not going to happen much, unless our team is really bad, and we miss the playoffs. Let's hope that doesn't happen,

VA-Mavs-Fan · 01-04-2021, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Yikes. And what has happened to DFS? Was last year just a fluke?

https://twitter.com/RyanMainville/st...01964350906370

Did I read that correct: Powell has the worst defense in the league, based on this statistic? Rick plays him if we want to lose

Edit - OK - I re-read that twitter post: it appears that: DFS #1 (81%), and Powell #2 (79%).

Is this because Powell has never been a good defender, so we kinda knew that. And maybe DFS is a good (or at least decent) defender at the 3, but not at the 4. This has been raised before.

Budapest Maverick · 01-04-2021, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I mean, we lost, but also we had a decent game without our two stars.

What other team wins without their top two players?>

Bucks, probably, but not many, yeah.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2021, 11:37 AM

Defensive rating after 6 games
1 - Green
2 - Johnson
3 - WCS
4- Brunson
5- Boban
6 - Powell
7 - THJ
8 - DFS
9 - Richardson
10 - Burke
11- Doncic
12 - Kleber

I'd look at DBPM but it's not updated yet.

VA-Mavs-Fan · 01-04-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Defensive rating after 6 games
1 - Green
2 - Johnson
3 - WCS
4- Brunson
5- Boban
6 - Powell
7 - THJ
8 - DFS
9 - Richardson
10 - Burke
11- Doncic
12 - Kleber

I'd look at DBPM but it's not updated yet.

OK thanks. WCS and Johnson should play more, Powell less. Maybe Boban should play more. Green should definitely get some minutes, maybe at the expense of THJ and Burke.

JRich - often defends the other teams best player.

Also, as Lavine was going all MJ on us last night, esp. first half, am I the only one who was thinking - "why not put Green on Lavine?" he might actually slow him down.

Dallas41 · 01-04-2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VA-Mavs-Fan

Did I read that correct: Powell has the worst defense in the league, based on this statistic? Rick plays him if we want to lose

Edit - OK - I re-read that twitter post: it appears that: DFS #1 (81%), and Powell #2 (79%).

Is this because Powell has never been a good defender, so we kinda knew that. And maybe DFS is a good (or at least decent) defender at the 3, but not at the 4. This has been raised before.

They actually have four of the 5 starters that are amongst the 10 worst in that stat.

Luka and THJ are both on that list as well.

I think the problem is despite our bigger wing acquisitions we are still playing small ball because Powell is at C and DFS is playing the PF and he's just 6'7.

DFS is better off at SF and defending smaller players. He's not a rim protector or rebounder and then when you pair him up with Powell that just compounds the situation.

I think quite a few fans have voiced their concerns with these small lineups all last year. They simply don't work and yet RC will go to hell and back trying to make it work.

For example I'm willing to bet half the fans on this board realize that Powell can't defend Woods but guess what we'll get for 20+ minutes tonight Powell on Woods. Some fans will point out that we don't have any other options to defend him except with Powell. My argument is WCS or Kleber despite being backups and not perfect are both still better options than Powell.

I'd even go a step further and say play some zone defense but apparently that's no longer an option in Dallas either.

turin · 01-04-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

They actually have four of the 5 starters that are amongst the 10 worst in that stat.

Luka and THJ are both on that list as well.

I think the problem is despite our bigger wing acquisitions we are still playing small ball because Powell is at C and DFS is playing the PF and he's just 6'7.

DFS is better off at SF and defending smaller players. He's not a rim protector or rebounder and then when you pair him up with Powell that just compounds the situation.

I think quite a few fans have voiced their concerns with these small lineups all last year. They simply don't work and yet RC will go to hell and back trying to make it work.

For example I'm willing to bet half the fans on this board realize that Powell can't defend Woods but guess what we'll get for 20+ minutes tonight Powell on Woods. Some fans will point out that we don't have any other options to defend him except with Powell. My argument is WCS or Kleber despite being backups and not perfect are both still better options than Powell.

I'd even go a step further and say play some zone defense but apparently that's no longer an option in Dallas either.

I've beaten this horse to death for at least the past couple of years. It is what it is. As long as we have this amazing HOF coach who guided the mavs to a title 10 years ago, it's going to be what it's going to be. Heck, McCarthy has managed to milk 15+ more years and counting as an NFL head coach since his Superbowl win. Rick's got at least another 5 years of small ball dreaming of a 6'7" center out there out-statting the other team. Yeah, I'm deflated. :-/

On the positive side, somebody has to score points and collect stats, so let's take advantage of this and hope Brunson can keep stacking the stat sheet. Then, when Luka comes back, let's sell Brunson high for an upgrade. If we can do that, then that just leaves us with Powell, DFS, and THJ to move.

DevinHarriswillstart · 01-04-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by turin

I've beaten this horse to death for at least the past couple of years. It is what it is. As long as we have this amazing HOF coach who guided the mavs to a title 10 years ago, it's going to be what it's going to be. Heck, McCarthy has managed to milk 15 years as an NFL head coach out his Superbowl win. Rick's got at least another 5 years of small ball dreaming of a 6'7" center out there out-statting the other team. Yeah, I'm deflated. :-/

Rick costs us some games...no question about it.

But you know, so do the players who are on the floor. Problem is that Powell isn't the only issue. THJ and DFS are just unreliable. It's the same problem we have every season. You just can't rely on the B squad. Never know who is going to show up.

Part of the problem is actually having just acquired J-Rich. See, you could bring Curry off the bench last season, but Rich needs to start because of his defense. That means either THJ or DFS are going to need to come off the bench to cure the size issue. And we saw what kind of player THJ was when he came off the bench.

turin · 01-04-2021, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rick costs us some games...no question about it.

But you know, so do the players who are on the floor. Problem is that Powell isn't the only issue. THJ and DFS are just unreliable. It's the same problem we have every season. You just can't rely on the B squad. Never know who is going to show up.

Part of the problem is actually having just acquired J-Rich. See, you could bring Curry off the bench last season, but Rich needs to start because of his defense. That means either THJ or DFS are going to need to come off the bench to cure the size issue. And we saw what kind of player THJ was when he came off the bench.

Is this a chicken or egg question? RC puts the players on the floor. He has input, I would hope, as far as team makeup and composition. I just haven't seen anything encouraging for several years - at least 3, if not 4. I continue to see headscratching combos, rotations, and the people who get the lionshare of the minutes at times have me just beaten down. Honestly, I'll give the Mavs until the 15 game mark. If there aren't any dramatic lineup and rotation changes made, then you can stick a fork in this team. I think they will be done for the season.

VA-Mavs-Fan · 01-04-2021, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rick costs us some games...no question about it.

But you know, so do the players who are on the floor. Problem is that Powell isn't the only issue. THJ and DFS are just unreliable. It's the same problem we have every season. You just can't rely on the B squad. Never know who is going to show up.

Part of the problem is actually having just acquired J-Rich. See, you could bring Curry off the bench last season, but Rich needs to start because of his defense. That means either THJ or DFS are going to need to come off the bench to cure the size issue. And we saw what kind of player THJ was when he came off the bench.

Both THJ and DFS should come off the bench.
I would start: Luka, JRich, Green, JJ, WCS. For example, tonight - Green you defend/shut down Harden. JRich- you got Wall. JJ is one of the best defenders (inside). Bring Powell, Kleber, THJ, DFS, Burke and Brunson off the bench. I might play Powell and THJ very little. I think Green can give y you as much offense as THJ has provided, but more efficient, and light years better defense. Green on Lavine last night (instead of THJ) would have been a win.

tgfan · 01-04-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

I’ll allow Giannis as an answer, but anyone else is just a terrible opinion. Pretty sure this dude is trolling, though.

I'd take Giannis, Steph, or AD for Luka. I love Luka, don't get me wrong. How could anyone not like him? I think his greatest skill for a point guard is his rebounding, not his shooting or play making. He's got to improve his decision making and free throw shooting. And it would help if he had team mates who don't stand around and watch while he dribbles the ball, but rather would move without the ball, cut stronger to the rim, set better picks, etc., but that is partly a coaching issue.

SMC0007 · 01-04-2021, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tgfan

I'd take Giannis, Steph, or AD for Luka. I love Luka, don't get me wrong. How could anyone not like him? I think his greatest skill for a point guard is his rebounding, not his shooting or play making. He's got to improve his decision making and free throw shooting. And it would help if he had team mates who don't stand around and watch while he dribbles the ball, but rather would move without the ball, cut stronger to the rim, set better picks, etc., but that is partly a coaching issue.

Steph?! 32?! This is a crazy and wild opinion. You're certainly entitled to one but the dude is 11 years older than Luka, thats bonkers bro.

Also, I'm going to disagree that Luka best skill is rebounding. He is an elite playmaker with elite vision and anticipation. More than Curry, even with 7 or 8 years more experience. I will definitely agree that his decision making regarding taking silly 3s needs to improve.

AD and Gianni's are more viable but I wouldn't do either one straight up.