07-28-2006, 09:34 PM
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Would you guys do this trade?
Lamar Odom
For
Jerry Stackhouse
Devin Harris
Future 1st pick?
i know you guys are high on Devin Harris but is it possible to make this trade satisfying for you guys?
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07-28-2006, 09:36 PM
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Put this crap in the trade forum.
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07-28-2006, 09:39 PM
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Opps can a mod please move the thread to it's propert place?
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07-28-2006, 09:48 PM
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Throw in Sasha?
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07-28-2006, 09:53 PM
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That would not be a problem, Sasha Vujacic is not that good though he can be a good back-up 1 day but thats about it.
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07-28-2006, 10:09 PM
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I read a lot of stuff on clublakers.com and i think some on there said some thing like:
"Does Sasha Vujacic have a top 5 Nba shot? Yes"
So i guess he has some upside................no way Mavs do that trade though.
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07-28-2006, 10:11 PM
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You guys would have a line-up of
Erick
Dirk
Odom
Howard
Terry
which is not bad if you ask me. if you guys want the Lakers to sweeten the pot then we might be willing to add Bynum or something.
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07-28-2006, 11:08 PM
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No way I do this deal. Devin has way too much upside, maybe Odom and a pick for Stack Devin, but no way we give up Devin a pick and Stack for just Odom.
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07-28-2006, 11:51 PM
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I would do it except for the fact that I don't want RCF coming back claiming he's hangin with his homey Lamar in Dallas now...
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07-29-2006, 09:04 AM
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I don't think so.
Odom is a Robin, and not a 3-5 guy. I think he would sulk and cause way too many issues because he wouldn't see the ball very often at all.
Now if Nellie were here, he could be that perfect "point forward" that he is always looking for, but presently --- I don't think so.
I'll admit I think this way totally on perceived attitude, and not on talent, or ability.
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07-29-2006, 02:51 PM
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Any chance that Nash would come back, maybe in a couple of years, and finish his Nba career with the Mavs instead of in Phoenix? That would be sweet! I'd long for that day. Dirk Nash reunion! I'm sure a lot of you guys would love to see that.
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07-29-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mqywaaah
Any chance that Nash would come back, maybe in a couple of years, and finish his Nba career with the Mavs instead of in Phoenix? That would be sweet! I'd long for that day. Dirk Nash reunion! I'm sure a lot of you guys would love to see that.
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No, unfortunatley not many people would want that to happen, but I'd love it to happen. I doubt it will though. He'll probably finish his career with the Suns and then get inducted to the Hall of Fame as a Mav
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"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-29-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
No, unfortunatley not many people would want that to happen, but I'd love it to happen. I doubt it will though. He'll probably finish his career with the Suns and then get inducted to the Hall of Fame as a Mav
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If Nash gets into Hall of Fame it will most definatley be as a Sun.
He was a good player, but nothing too special on the Mavs. His best years, and two MVP years came as a Sun....Plus if his back holds up he can have another 2-3 years at MVP calibur player for them.
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07-29-2006, 07:32 PM
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If Nash gets into Hall of Fame it will most definatley be as a Sun.
He was a good player, but nothing too special on the Mavs. His best years, and two MVP years came as a Sun....Plus if his back holds up he can have another 2-3 years at MVP calibur player for them.
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I'm pretty sure the player gets to choose, and I think he'd choose Dallas.
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"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-29-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
I'm pretty sure the player gets to choose, and I think he'd choose Dallas.
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I just looked it up and it turns out since it's the "Basketball Hall of Fame" and not "NBA Hall of fame"......players, refs, coaches, players in europe etc. all can get in.
When an player gets in the HOF, unlike baseball, they are solely entered as a player with no team orientation.
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07-29-2006, 10:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by some-dude
I just looked it up and it turns out since it's the "Basketball Hall of Fame" and not "NBA Hall of fame"......players, refs, coaches, players in europe etc. all can get in.
When an player gets in the HOF, unlike baseball, they are solely entered as a player with no team orientation.
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Oh, that's good to know, thanks for the info. Then Nash will just get his jersey number retired by the Mavs
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"For a team as good as the Mavs, the regular season is just 82 practice games until the real season begins." -G-Man
"We wanted this for Dirk because of his heart, his class, his work ethic, his humility, his sense of humor, his respect for the game, and his respect for people."
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07-30-2006, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
Oh, that's good to know, thanks for the info. Then Nash will just get his jersey number retired by the Mavs
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Better.
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07-30-2006, 04:18 AM
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So you guys would only trade Devin Harris if Kobe is involved understandably i know you guys highly Devin as do Laker fans we are in love with him and we would probably give up anything not named Kobe
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07-30-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple&Gold
So you guys would only trade Devin Harris if Kobe is involved understandably i know you guys highly Devin as do Laker fans we are in love with him and we would probably give up anything not named Kobe
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devin isnt going anywhere.
if aj screws up harris' career here, i may just give up on the mavs. harris has superstar written all over him.
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07-30-2006, 02:06 PM
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devin isnt going anywhere.
if aj screws up harris' career here, i may just give up on the mavs. harris has superstar written all over him.
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No more showering with the players for you Aex ...
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07-30-2006, 03:07 PM
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Im almost as big of an odom fan as i am a devin fan. If we could get kwame or bynum included then yes i would though including kwame would require the mavs add something to make the salaries match and i just dont see it.
Odom would be our second best player.
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07-30-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
I'm pretty sure the player gets to choose, and I think he'd choose Dallas.
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Even though that's not how they do it, I think there is no way he would choose dallas now.
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07-30-2006, 10:29 PM
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Heck no.
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07-30-2006, 11:14 PM
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Maybe
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07-31-2006, 01:11 AM
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Odom is good... but not that good. Stacks expiring contract is (at least in my books) a lot more appealing than we are giving credit for and Harris is underated in this league right now so we should wait until he raises his game before we are even thinking of a trade (which we still wouldnt/shouldnt do).
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08-24-2006, 08:29 AM
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Lamar Odom haahha! what are you retarded!
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08-29-2006, 01:15 PM
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And how much cocaine would the Lakers be sending to the Mavs?
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08-29-2006, 01:48 PM
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nice job d-ball hahah
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08-29-2006, 02:36 PM
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its amazing that a board full of josh howard fans dont like Lamar odom. He is better than josh you know.
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08-29-2006, 08:59 PM
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no hes not
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08-29-2006, 09:13 PM
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no hes not
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Do you have any basis for that argument whatsoever? Odom is a MUCH better passer, a better rebounder and a better defender by a fairly sizeable margine but, josh is a slightly better scorer though. Yep josh has got him killed.
Last edited by Five-ofan; 08-29-2006 at 09:18 PM.
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08-29-2006, 09:27 PM
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Odom is definetly better than Jho, and I love me some Jho.
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08-29-2006, 11:41 PM
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odom is better, but i would rather have j-ho..
as stupid as that sounds...
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08-29-2006, 11:50 PM
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I understand that sentiment though i wouldnt apply it here. IE Baron davis is better than jet but i would rather have jet.
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08-30-2006, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
Do you have any basis for that argument whatsoever? Odom is a MUCH better passer, a better rebounder and a better defender by a fairly sizeable margine but, josh is a slightly better scorer though. Yep josh has got him killed.
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If you want to go by those NBA Live standards, technically Odom is better than Dirk. Because after all, Odom is a better passer, rebounder and better defender by a fairly sizeable margine than Dirk.
The two shouldn't even be compared to one another simply because one is a small forward and one is a power forward. Josh is assigned to guard sg/sf, Odom is assigned to guard pfs.
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08-30-2006, 08:41 AM
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no odom for me, please.
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08-30-2006, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Nash13
If you want to go by those NBA Live standards, technically Odom is better than Dirk. Because after all, Odom is a better passer, rebounder and better defender by a fairly sizeable margine than Dirk.
The two shouldn't even be compared to one another simply because one is a small forward and one is a power forward. Josh is assigned to guard sg/sf, Odom is assigned to guard pfs.
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Actually, Odom is a forward in general. He can play both about equally. The thing is odom is a better passer and defender tha dirk but the passing margin is alot smaller and the defense margin is about the same. Dirk and odom are roughly equivalent rebounders and dirk is a VASTLY superior scorer. Essentially dirk has a huge edge in a category whereas i could make the argument that odom is better at literally everything than josh.
I dont think hes better at everything, i think josh is a better scorer and set shooter but im just saying there is nothing that josh has a huge edge in the way dirk does in scoring.
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08-30-2006, 11:27 AM
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Wow some people on here have no idea what they are talking about if they dont think that Odom is not good. I love Howard but odom is better. I think with Odom we could win the Championship with Dirk being like (MJ) and Odom being like (Pippen).
But odom hasnt even had a chance to play on a good team. First with the Clipps and Now with the Lakers and selfish Kobe. His best chance was whn he was in Miami and they made the playoffs. Soo certain things should not be held against him.
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08-30-2006, 11:32 AM
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he made the playoffs and the second round as the best player on his team something i doubt that josh could do.
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08-30-2006, 11:34 AM
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he made the playoffs and the second round as the best player on his team something i doubt that josh could do.
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Now I hate to admit anything derogatory about Josh, but that sir, is a good point.
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