Ricky Rubio

[endrity]

I love the kid, I think he is a tremendous talent and will make quite a name for himself. Ceiling? Perennial All-Star with a couple of Second All-NBA teams.

[Kidd Karma]

I have not see it mentioned. I compare the guy's offensive abilities to JKidd. The vision, the high risk, high reward passes, the ability to pass up a wide open lane to find an open teammate, the abiltiy to snag rebounds and start a break on his own. Even defensively, at least compared to Kidd's latter years, Rubio has a knack for defending off the ball, taking a bit more gambles, getting in passing lanes. I think one on one defending will hurt him most. But he's young enough to make himself into a better than average one on one defender, when all's said and done. Slowly growing on me as another team/player to watch outside of Dallas.

[CadBane]

He's already a pretty good three-point shooter too (and Kidd wasn't until later in his career).

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by CadBane

He's already a pretty good three-point shooter too (and Kidd wasn't until later in his career).

Not so sure those numbers are more than a small sample size fluke; given the scouting reports that he is a bad outside shooter.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by mavs777

Not so sure those numbers are more than a small sample size fluke; given the scouting reports that he is a bad outside shooter.

Not that you can draw anything conclusive from these numbers, but Rubio made 161 out of 509 attempts in Euroleague, Eurocup and other competitions combined since 06-07... 31.6% certainly isn't a good percentage, but it's not so bad that he can't fix it.

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Not that you can draw anything conclusive from these numbers, but Rubio made 161 out of 509 attempts in Euroleague, Eurocup and other competitions combined since 06-07... 31.6% certainly isn't a good percentage, but it's not so bad that he can't fix it.

Isn't the euro leagues three point line like 2 feet shorter to the hoop or is it like the NBA line?

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by mavs777

Not so sure those numbers are more than a small sample size fluke; given the scouting reports that he is a bad outside shooter.

Actually, he's been working on his three-point shot a ton over the past few years. Look for him to maintain something in the 35-40% zone in the NBA. He's a good set shooter. In Euroleague he took a lot more contested threes (his fg% in general was awful...his stats are better in the NBA across the board.)

[walter]

Originally Posted by clutch#41

Rubio=ROY...Rookie of Year

It would be interesting to see that, considering that would mean the last 3 rookies of the year came from the same draft class. Best draft ever???

[sefant77]

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by walter

It would be interesting to see that, considering that would mean the last 3 rookies of the year came from the same draft class. Best draft ever???

nothing gonna top 1984 class with sam bowie and sam perkins.

[jasonic]

As i said in the previous page i thought Rubio would be a decent player for the NBA and not a star. His playmaking abilities are great and i 'm impressed by his shot. Playing in Euroleague the teams that played against him gave to him too much room because he shoot ugly the 3pts (i think 25 % or sth like that). Anyway the good things doesn't mean he makes a lot of turnovers (i think he 's first in TO's ) and he 's one of the worst defenders in the league.

[Budapest Maverick]

Rubio is amazing. And i don't where that stuff comes from he's a bad defender. He's a very good defender, in fact, the Minnesota defense improves a lot when he's on the court, whether it be with the second unit, or with starters. Him being a bad defender is a total stereotype. The other he frustrated Rose with his length, and underrated foot speed, he stole the ball from him 2 times Rose shot like 4/12 when Rubio was on him, and torched the Wolves when the spanish was on the bench. He really is the total package, other than scoring, which he is a lot better at, than most thought.

[dirt_dobber]

Originally Posted by walter

It would be interesting to see that, considering that would mean the last 3 rookies of the year came from the same draft class. Best draft ever???

I think the 1998 NBA Draft was one of the best ever....
#4 Antawn Jamison
#5 Vince Carter
#9 Dirk
#10 Paul Pierce

[Robillion]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

I think the 1998 NBA Draft was one of the best ever....
#4 Antawn Jamison
#5 Vince Carter
#9 Dirk
#10 Paul Pierce

O3 wasn't too shabby, at least at the top...

1 LeBron James
3 Carmelo Anthony
4 Chris Bosh
5 Dwyane Wade

[CadBane]

Originally Posted by jasonic

As i said in the previous page i thought Rubio would be a decent player for the NBA and not a star. His playmaking abilities are great and i 'm impressed by his shot. Playing in Euroleague the teams that played against him gave to him too much room because he shoot ugly the 3pts (i think 25 % or sth like that). Anyway the good things doesn't mean he makes a lot of turnovers (i think he 's first in TO's ) and he 's one of the worst defenders in the league.

Not sure if serious?

[endrity]

Originally Posted by jasonic

As i said in the previous page i thought Rubio would be a decent player for the NBA and not a star. His playmaking abilities are great and i 'm impressed by his shot. Playing in Euroleague the teams that played against him gave to him too much room because he shoot ugly the 3pts (i think 25 % or sth like that). Anyway the good things doesn't mean he makes a lot of turnovers (i think he 's first in TO's ) and he 's one of the worst defenders in the league.

Dude he is actually a borderline great defender, and that was probably the main thing that kept him his starting place at Barcelona even when he was playing bad on the offense. He's got great length, very nice speed, but his fundamentals are perfect, always takes good angles, keeps moving his feet, and his instincts are really good as well.

Anyway, I think his Barcelona stint was awful. Maybe he developed a bit physically and learned how to be a better pro, but as long as JC Navarro was playing there Rubio was always going to be a complementary piece to him. He was much better at Joventud and I wish he'd made the trip to the NBA two years ago.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by Robillion

O3 wasn't too shabby, at least at the top...

1 LeBron James
3 Carmelo Anthony
4 Chris Bosh
5 Dwyane Wade

6 Kaman
7 Hinrich
18 David West
21 Diaw
27 Perkins
28 Barbosa
29 Josh Howard
47 Mo Williams

Also pretty "good" player deep (West, Kaman, Josh, Mo all made Allstar one time).

[GP]

I've watched Minnesota a few times now and have paid particular attention to Rubio. I really like his court awareness, his feel for the game and his apparent competitiveness. I wasn't sure about his foot speed until last night. The kid really does have all the tools and he does play good defense at this early juncture. He certainly is by far the best point guard on that team and I do like Ridnour a lot. I think he is one heck of a good prospect and I think he will be a very good NBA player for a long time. For those who haven't noticed this the kid is already pretty darned good. Much, much better than I envisioned and honestly much less showy. There is a lot of substance to that kids game.

[AO41]

the kid is BEASTING