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Old 07-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #1
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Houston can match, so not signed!!! Back to offseason thread...
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...to an offer.

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Ha, nice, they've shortened the wait period to 3 days.
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Well, if the Mavs sign him at the instant that they're allowed, they've effectively taken the Rockets out of the Bosh hunt, unless they want to let Parsons go.
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Wouldn't take it for granted that Houston matches this. It's still more likely than not, but given that they apparently negotiated all day and couldn't get him to not agree to it, it's possible they are adverse to the luxury tax consequences.

Also, the timing with LeBron/Bosh just got very tricky for Houston.
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15M per is obviously too much, but FO seems to think he's the missing piece and willing to overpay in the three years that Dirk (probably) has left.

Not having that fourth year makes it acceptable.

That said, I would still have liked a Deng/Ariza/more defense type better.

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Well, if the Mavs sign him at the instant that they're allowed, they've effectively taken the Rockets out of the Bosh hunt, unless they want to let Parsons go.
Definitely a calculated gamble that could pay off. Houston is going to have to have a huddle in the next few days.

I just hope we don't lose out on Ariza/Deng while we wait.
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And Houston is now the third best team in texas
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Wouldn't take it for granted that Houston matches this. It's still more likely than not, but given that they apparently negotiated all day and couldn't get him to not agree to it, it's possible they are adverse to the luxury tax consequences.

Also, the timing with LeBron/Bosh just got very tricky for Houston.
It didn't get tricky. It's impossible. They can't sign one without renouncing parsons now
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If Bosh takes a cut to play with them, they can.

So one might want to hope that LeDecision postpones long enough.
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Can someone please explain to me the consequences of going over the cap? Like if Houstons signs Bosh AND matches this offer, what even happens to them??

Btw I love this move. You have to overpay in FA these days, and he fills a HUGE need. Even if HOU matches, you force them to overpay and will still probably have a great chance at Ariza/Stephenson/Deng. If you told me before the offseason we'd end up with Chandler Parsons and Tyson Chandler, I wouldn't believe it. And after this Id love to package Wright+Felton to free up 8-9 mil more space and go get a quality backup big man like Jordan Hill, bring in Mo, and resign Carter. That'd be the perfect offseason.
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..... If you told me before the offseason we'd end up with Chandler Parsons and Tyson Chandler, I wouldn't believe it. And after this Id love to package Wright+Felton to free up 8-9 mil more space and go get a quality backup big man like Jordan Hill, bring in Mo, and resign Carter. That'd be the perfect offseason.
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It didn't get tricky. It's impossible. They can't sign one without renouncing parsons now
Think you misunderstood me. It's not "impossible" if Bosh tells them within the first three days that he's staying in Miami. It's "tricky" to the extent that, if the Rockets haven't heard from him about 2.5 days in, they will have to make a decision blind.
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Think you misunderstood me. It's not "impossible" if Bosh tells them within the first three days that he's staying in Miami. It's "tricky" to the extent that, if the Rockets haven't heard from him about 2.5 days in, they will have to make a decision blind.
I was wrong about the rules, so I apologize for that(even though they are incredibly stupid) but in all honesty it's still mostly impossible. They have to finalize the asik trade, trade literally everyone but harden, Howard, parsons and beverly and then get bosh to sign the contract and have it all done by the 3rd day. That's a ton of moving parts to
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Proof #2 above...

On second thought: A LOT of money. Third year is a player option btw.
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Someone educate me on the cap situation if this goes through. If Parsons is signed (and all the other deals go through; Dirk, Harris, Carter, etc.) do the Mavericks still have the full MLE to spend? Thanks.

About the move, ultimately I think you have to like it. Parsons is young and a good three point shooter. He is the surest bet of the 2nd tier SFs, and he will help the spacing on this squad (again, if the deal goes through). The Mavericks were going to have to overpay for one of Ariza, Deng, or even Stephenson, and if it is Parsons that is the one then I think that is the best case scenario.

If the full MLE is available I would love to see the Mavs go after some shooters (or even an Ed Davis or Okafor type to shore up the front court). Wright is still there to dangle in trades too.
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Per Larry Coon, the offer sheet will NOT create a cap hold on the Rockets' books until it is matched. So if the Rockets hustle, they can sign Bosh with cap space AND match on Parsons. Brutal.
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I just hope we don't lose out on Ariza/Deng while we wait.
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Honestly out of the three, it really wont bother me too much which one we land, as long as we dont lose out on Ariza/Deng while Mavs fans wait another three days for this to unfold.
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Ariza on Cavs Lebron backup list......so if Lebron sticks with Miami, Bosh returns as well....Houston matches Parsons and the Mavs fight the Cavs for Ariza.
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Well, Houston's still in the driver's seat with Parsons, and there are plenty of ways for them to complicate life for Dallas, with or without Bosh, but I can't say I'm sorry to see the Mavs' pressing the action here. There are costs if Houston matches, but other free agents' agents are surely aware that Dallas' money won't be spent until it's actually spent, and Dallas is unlikely to stop negotiating with their other targets while Houston retains matching rights.
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Per Larry Coon, the offer sheet will NOT create a cap hold on the Rockets' books until it is matched. So if the Rockets hustle, they can sign Bosh with cap space AND match on Parsons. Brutal.
And trade Lin. They probably have the stupid ass sixers on hold on the other line to take that deal though.
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Anyone else want to see this happen simply because the reality TV show that's sure to follow would be Amazing!? "Chandler and Chandler", huh, anyone? anyone?

Ahh, fo-gita-bout-it...
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To be clear what has to happen if Houston wants Bosh and Parsons:

1. Execute Asik trade (I've read New Orleans has to execute a small transaction before they can even do this).

2. Execute Lin trade they supposedly have racked up.

3. Trade away Jones, Montiejunas, Canaan and their first round pick this year (some or all of these could theoretically go out with Asik and/or Lin. They're very small contract)

4. Get Bosh to agree to a contract that starts at about 600K under max starting point. (Almost a million under if they want to keep Beverly too)

To be fair, it's been pointed out to me that a 19.5Mil contract might be the most Bosh is offered if Lebron leaves Miami.

So not out of the woods even if they get Bosh to agree, but it will take a lot of work in a short time.

And because I've seen a few ask: If Parsons comes here, this would, for all intents and purposes, use every last drop of our cap space. You would then have the room exception, minimums and trades.
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I like this. Good Poker move by the Mavs against a Rival Team. If they don't match we overpay an SF who fits perfectly with us, but it just might turn out to be worth it this year.

If they do, they are screwed.
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@SpearsNBAYahoo: Another detail of the offer sheet Rockets RFA forward Chandler Parsons is signing with the Mavs is it includes a trade kicker, sources said.
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