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Underdog · 07-01-2015, 02:00 PM

@bdameris: Mavs/DeAndre meeting now entering its 3rd hour in LA.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2015, 02:26 PM

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@bdameris: Mavs/DeAndre meeting now entering its 3rd hour in LA.

Is that a good thing?

yahyes · 07-01-2015, 02:12 PM

I mean one season Dirk and Jordan still can be a real force in the league

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-01-2015, 02:16 PM

Well we better get Jordan now. Chandler to the suns via Woj.

sefant77 · 07-01-2015, 02:22 PM

Couldnt even wait a day for the decision...pfffff

tap2390 · 07-01-2015, 03:31 PM

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Couldnt even wait a day for the decision...pfffff

And he was under no obligation to. He had to do what's best for him as the Mavs are doing what's the best for them.

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 03:38 PM

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And he was under no obligation to. He had to do what's best for him as the Mavs are doing what's the best for them.

I figured Chandler might bolt after the Rondo issue in the POs.
After resigning him this team wouldn't have had many options to improve to anything much better than what they were last season.
Might as well sign with a team with an upside.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-01-2015, 03:42 PM

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I figured Chandler might bolt after the Rondo issue in the POs.
After resigning him this team wouldn't have had many options to improve to anything much better than what they were last season.
Might as well sign with a team with an upside.

It's kinda sad to think that perhaps guys like Chandler and Ellis wanted to leave regardless of the money.

The Rondo trade will go down as one of the worst in Mavs history. Horrible. Everything fell apart after that trade.

Just gotta get DAJ and go from there...

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 04:16 PM

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It's kinda sad to think that perhaps guys like Chandler and Ellis wanted to leave regardless of the money.

The Rondo trade will go down as one of the worst in Mavs history. Horrible. Everything fell apart after that trade.

Just gotta get DAJ and go from there...

Yeah that trade had more negative impact on this team than many realize.
Maybe some think it's "Dumb" but we are better off tanking if we don't get Jordan or LMA at this point and put ourselves in a position to have a pick next season than try to piece this thing together with guys like Asik or Hibbert or someone equivalent.

I don't think Tyson even considered returning after the Rondo fiasco.

bunkmoreland · 07-01-2015, 02:24 PM

If you are DeAndre Jordan, why would you sign with the Mavs now?

Robillion · 07-01-2015, 02:27 PM

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If you are DeAndre Jordan, why would you sign with the Mavs now?

Um, the "plan" hasn't changed. If Matthews and DeAndre sign then we have a great offseason.

Obviously, Tyson would have been gone anyways if DeAndre came, and Aminu we were never going to be able to afford. Looks like Matthews was coveted over Green as well anyways.

So - If Matthews signs elsewhere today then, yeah, I see chances of DeAndre signing much less.

Murphy3 · 07-01-2015, 02:42 PM

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Um, the "plan" hasn't changed. If Matthews and DeAndre sign then we have a great offseason.

Obviously, Tyson would have been gone anyways if DeAndre came, and Aminu we were never going to be able to afford. Looks like Matthews was coveted over Green as well anyways.

So - If Matthews signs elsewhere today then, yeah, I see chances of DeAndre signing much less.

I don't know that it's a great off season regardless of whether the Mavs get those two. The team may still take a step back on the court.

Robillion · 07-01-2015, 02:49 PM

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I don't know that it's a great off season regardless of whether the Mavs get those two. The team may still take a step back on the court.

And Matthews may not play at all. Parsons could also hit a set back. Lots can go wrong.

Or, Matthews comes back at 90%+, Deandre adds to his offensive game with more focus, Parsons starts to fulfill his potential. They represent close to half of the team's points. Then, we could be contenders.

I'd be extra happy if we could land a decent PG this year and also see Justin Anderson develop into a valuable player.

Lots of ifs, but I was excited about the thought of Deandre + Matthews weeks ago, and I'm still excited about it now. Even though lots can go wrong (lots could go right).

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 03:30 PM

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I don't know that it's a great off season regardless of whether the Mavs get those two. The team may still take a step back on the court.

But a step forward on a youth movement.

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 02:29 PM

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If you are DeAndre Jordan, why would you sign with the Mavs now?

Why not...what has changed???
Wes Matthews and Jordan would be nice building blocks along with Parsons, Powell and Anderson. And along with Dirk we'd be competitive.

bunkmoreland · 07-01-2015, 02:33 PM

OK. Well, thanks for talking me off the cliff a bit, Robillion and rimrocker.
Just a bit disappointed.

Melonhead · 07-01-2015, 02:36 PM

If Jordan stays in LA talk about another whiff on big FA per the usual. I'm not so sure on Wes Matthews either. 12 is as high as I go because that leaves no money to fill in the rest of the team.

Robillion · 07-01-2015, 02:35 PM

You think maybe with the Deandre meeting still going on (I presume), Tyson got a great offer from the Suns, he tried to call the Mavs FO to discuss, but they were too busy with the meeting to respond. Then, Tyson just says, "screw these guys."

I'm a little stunned that Tyson would go ahead and make this decision already. Maybe the thought that there was more chance that Aldridge would also sign along with him with the Suns, than with the Mavs.

Thukydides · 07-01-2015, 02:35 PM

Well I think that news on Tyson might be a good sign regarding DJ.. I can not imagine Cuban letting Tyson leave without being quite sure about signing Jordan

DirkMFFL · 07-01-2015, 02:44 PM

Mark Cuban needs to stop being cheap and pay the players. If DeAndre wants full MAX, GIVE HIM THE FULL MAX. If Matthews wants 15 million, just PAY HIM 15 Million. Really 3 million dollar difference going to destroy your wallet CUBAN?

Thukydides · 07-01-2015, 02:45 PM

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Mark Cuban needs to stop being cheap and pay the players. If DeAndre wants full MAX, GIVE HIM THE FULL MAX. If Matthews wants 15 million, just PAY HIM 15 Million. Really 3 million dollar difference going to destroy your wallet CUBAN?

I don´t think Cuban´s willingness to spend will be any kind of a problem. It´s all about the players right now

Underdog · 07-01-2015, 02:53 PM

@espn_macmahon: If the Mavs don't close the deal on DeAndre Jordan, their best bet might be to see if Pacers still want to dump Roy Hibbert's salary.

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 03:35 PM

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@espn_macmahon: If the Mavs don't close the deal on DeAndre Jordan, their best bet might be to see if Pacers still want to dump Roy Hibbert's salary.

I'd rather sign Asik for hopefully much less if we lose out on Jordan than take on Hibbert.
Actually I'd rather just load up on a bunch of youth on one year deals and hopefully one or a few would stick.
Basically would be a strategy to save our top 7 protected pick next season and start this thing completely over.

DirkMFFL · 07-01-2015, 02:58 PM

@UnderDog

Hibbert seriously? This franchise has taken a step back ever since winning it in 2011. Why have we become the place no one wants to play for? Is it cause we never resign the players on our current team? In my opinion mavs are not loyal to their own players and other free agents are seeing this.

hayth.james.g · 07-01-2015, 03:03 PM

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@UnderDog

Hibbert seriously? This franchise has taken a step back ever since winning it in 2011. Why have we become the place no one wants to play for? Is it cause we never resign the players on our current team? In my opinion mavs are not loyal to their own players and other free agents are seeing this.

Sigh - name calling would be nice right now.

ocelot_ark · 07-01-2015, 03:07 PM

Ugh.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2015, 03:40 PM

Mags may well implode

BUT there is some awfully dumb stuff being said too.

Mavs made the playoffs with an injured Parsons and a cancerous Rondo and Phoenix missed while healthy. Phoenix is a team with an up side?

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 04:09 PM

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Mags may well implode

BUT there is some awfully dumb stuff being said too.

Mavs made the playoffs with an injured Parsons and a cancerous Rondo and Phoenix missed while healthy. Phoenix is a team with an up side?

Ummm....yeah.... certainly better than ours at this point.
Bledsoe, Knight, Morris, Morris, Tucker, Booker and Len are more attractive than Parsons, 37yo Dirk, Harris, Felton and Anderson.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2015, 04:15 PM

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Ummm....yeah.... certainly better than ours at this point.
Bledsoe, Knight, Morris, Morris, Tucker, Booker and Len are more attractive than Parsons, 37yo Dirk, Harris, Felton and Anderson.

Well you are in luck-- Suns are looking for their third fan. You could probably slip in undetected among all the Phoenicians who come to Suns games wearing opposing team jerseys.

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 04:25 PM

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Well you are in luck-- Suns are looking for their third fan. You could probably slip in undetected among all the Phoenicians who come to Suns games wearing opposing team jerseys.

Not understanding your point....you honestly think we are in a better situation than the Suns in the eyes of Chandler?

The biggest FAs we've been rumored to go after this off-season are LMA and DJ both of whom would make TC resigning virtually impossible. The only way we supposedly get better is by signing either of them and if we don't sign either we'd be basically back to where we were last season but older.

Phoenix is a young team looking for some leadership which is something he provides. We might have been better last season but I don't follow the logic that because we made it to the POs last season with an aging team will make us better than a growing youthful team next season...especially since a key piece from our team is going to their team.

Underdog · 07-01-2015, 04:34 PM

@espn_macmahon: Mavs' meeting with DeAndre Jordan is done. Lasted about 4 1/2 hours.

@TravisRW: A 4.5 hour meeting after dinner etc. last night...that's a lot of time.

@Sir_Fahrenheit: Maybe Jerry Jones killed someone and they're trying to decide what to do with the body.

GermanStandard · 07-01-2015, 04:36 PM

I choose Option C.

Jerry Jones killed someone and they try to hide the body.

Maybe Jones brought his Hooker Bus from Arlington?

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2015, 04:38 PM

3 hours last night
4.5 hours today
Dozens of times hanging out with Parsons.

If he finks, he is a giant jerk for taking up almost 8 hours of our time.

Kidd Karma · 07-01-2015, 04:40 PM

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3 hours last night
4.5 hours today
Dozens of times hanging out with Parsons.

If he finks, he is a giant jerk for taking up almost 8 hours of our time.

My dang refresh button going to be broken.

bunkmoreland · 07-01-2015, 04:39 PM

Yeah, it does seem like there is a good chance on Jordan. Crossing my fingers.

Underdog · 07-01-2015, 04:42 PM

@espn_macmahon: Source says Mavs' meeting with DeAndre Jordan "went really well," per source. Of course, they all do. But Mavs are cautiously optimistic.

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 04:43 PM

Parsons will pass Ro as my 2nd favorite Mav of all time if he is able to lure DJ here

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2015, 04:44 PM

Ben Rogers ‏@BenRogers 5s5 seconds ago

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DeAndre Jordan = 63.8%

rimrocker · 07-01-2015, 04:51 PM

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Ben Rogers ‏@BenRogers 5s5 seconds ago

Is that a hunch on his part or was there an insider that provided that number to him?

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-01-2015, 05:12 PM

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Is that a hunch on his part or was there an insider that provided that number to him?

Hunch. He updates that daily or on the hour or whatever.

Still, I give us a 50% chance which is the highest I've personally thought.