Stackhouse to Chicago idea - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Dooby · 12-03-2004, 10:35 AM

I loathe realgm, but it seems we could trade Stack to Chicago for a little less than what they are trying to get Vince Carter for. I'd want either Chandler or Curry, and I'd want Piatowski to provide 3's off the bench. Seems like that would work.

kg_veteran · 12-03-2004, 11:51 AM

From what I understand, Toronto would want Chandler or Curry plus either Hinrich or Gordon. I don't think the Bulls are inclined to do that. I DO think the Bulls are inclined to move either Chandler or Curry.

The real question is where Stackhouse would fit into Chicago's plans. They have their backcourt of the future in Hinrich and Gordon (assuming that Gordon pans out, which I think he will), and they have their SF of the future in Deng. Deng is already playing solid basketball from what I can tell. They also have another solid rookie SF in Nocioni and a potential backup PG in Chris Duhon. If they insert Stackhouse into the equation, does he start at SG, with Gordon coming off the bench? If they give us Chandler (or Curry) who starts at PF (or C)?

From our standpoint, your proposed deal is a no-brainer, IMO.

Dampier - Bradley - Booth
Nowitzki - Chandler - Henderson
Howard - Daniels
Finley - Piatkowski
Harris - Terry

IR: Benga, Pavel, TAW

Chandler is a good rebounder and active big who could play backup PF and some C in certain situations.

Dampier 32 - Chandler 16
Nowitzki 38 - Chandler 10
Howard 35 - Daniels 13
Finley 32 - Daniels 16
Harris 18 - Terry 30

Looks pretty darn good to me.

mavs413 · 12-03-2004, 02:30 PM

I came up with this exact trade in another thread just last night so of course I agree with it. Chicago Needs a SG Real bad and Stackhouse is one that can score 20+ ppg. In the last 5 games for Chicago, their Starting SGs are averaging only 17.8 minutes per game and 3 ppg. Chandler has started only 2 of those games and had just 9minutes in one of those starts. It seems like they would gladly take Stackhouse in exchange for Chandler right now. Make the call now.

sike · 12-03-2004, 03:23 PM

in a second...

Dooby · 12-03-2004, 04:31 PM

Stack isn't as marketable, but he's cheaper and has a shorter contract if you count Carter's player option year.

We'd probably have to include or cut Dickau to get the roster spot. Or we could finally buy out TAW.

SeriousSummer · 12-03-2004, 04:57 PM

This works:

Dallas trades: PG Dan Dickau (1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 30.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Eric Piatkowski (6.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes)
PF Tyson Chandler (7.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -1.4 ppg, +5.9 rpg, and -0.7 apg.

Chicago trades: SG Eric Piatkowski (6.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes)
PF Tyson Chandler (7.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.2 minutes)
Chicago receives: PG Dan Dickau (1.3 ppg, 0.3 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.0 minutes)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 30.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +1.4 ppg, -5.9 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

But the problem is that I think Chicago has to get a big back in order to do the deal--otherwise they're really short on size.

So if I were them, I'd insist on this[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]allas trades: C Didier Ilunga-Mbenga (0.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.7 minutes)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 30.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Eric Piatkowski (6.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes)
PF Tyson Chandler (7.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.6 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

Chicago trades: SG Eric Piatkowski (6.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 16.6 minutes)
PF Tyson Chandler (7.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 26.2 minutes)
Chicago receives: C Didier Ilunga-Mbenga (0.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 4.7 minutes)
SG Jerry Stackhouse (14.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 30.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.6 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

This makes it a tougher choice. But I think I'd still do it.

Dooby · 12-03-2004, 05:41 PM

Well, any Dickau plans are out the window.

EricaLubarsky · 12-03-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: Dooby
Stack isn't as marketable, but he's cheaper and has a shorter contract if you count Carter's player option year.

We'd probably have to include or cut Dickau to get the roster spot. Or we could finally buy out TAW.

Hasn't Carter said that he will opt out? He's an expiring contract and Toronto wants something for him.

MavsFanatik33 · 12-17-2004, 10:40 PM

Stackhouse is the only Mav that I would be willing to give up. He continually misses easy lay-ups and foced shots. Some games he can get a hot hand, but I say if we were to make any trades, trade him and a filler for a nice bench player....

jayC · 12-18-2004, 12:08 AM

Well speaking of missed bunnies. Howard and Daniels miss their fare share of lay-ups. Of course I pull the trigger on the deal.

Hell the mavs could go super big
Daniels
Finley
Dirk
Chandler
Dampier

Dooby · 02-03-2005, 11:20 AM

Anybody want to change this to Finley to Chicago?

poohrichardson · 02-04-2005, 12:32 AM

It's just ridiculous that people are trying to find ways to get rid of Finley.. sure, he isn't shooting the lights out.. but do the words "leadership" or "continuity" mean anything? How about "chemistry"?

We're playing awesome ball.. let's not trade ANYBODY and see how the season turns out. We can't beat San Antonio without making any unrealistic deals, so let's just see if we can even get TO them before we worry about getting past them.