Eric Dampier.... a good fit..... - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

sike · 05-28-2004, 10:37 AM

....but probably not for Nellie......are you are tired as i am of losing out on players simply because of our coach?

Dampier is a good reabounder, decent defender, huge body, has an improved touch from around 12ft,.....is the only way the mavs get him a sign and trade? plus I read something some time ago that said GS would not mind trading him so they dont just lose him to free agency......

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?

bcrav4 · 05-28-2004, 11:49 AM

He would definitely be a good short term center, he was ranked like 5th best in the league on sportsline. But, what about two years from now???

ddh33 · 05-28-2004, 12:02 PM

I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that Dampier is the Mavs target this off-season. His career has been derailed by injury, but he has all kinds of talent. A change of scenery could do wonders for him much the same way it did for Robert Parish.

Dirkenstien · 05-28-2004, 12:12 PM

I definitely would not mind persuing Dampier although im not sure i would be willing to give up a lot for him if GS wanted some type of S&T.

dirno2000 · 05-28-2004, 01:21 PM

He's #1 on my off-season wish list. A legit center that can rebound, block a couple of shots and has some athleticism. He'll shoot a good % and doesn't need a lot of shots.

bcrav4, he's only 29. If he has the motivation after getting a big contract (that's the big ? on him) he can be a very good center for 5 more years easily.

foglemann · 05-28-2004, 04:27 PM

everyone loves dampier for the wrong reason. He had a great year last year because he was in a contract year. He did it the last time he got a contract in the year before. He's lazy, doesn't try hard all the time and is not the savior or the best option out there. He would help, of course, but he will be getting too much money for us to bother. I don't like nearly as much as other players.

Look for Foyle to have a better year than Dampier if he gets a starting job.

cheesestar · 05-29-2004, 01:13 PM

i like how damp would fit in with the team, i tried to get him on fantasy basketball but couldnt. he seems like a good player for the mavs stat wise.

dirkFREAKINnowitzki · 05-29-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by: foglemann
everyone loves dampier for the wrong reason. He had a great year last year because he was in a contract year. He did it the last time he got a contract in the year before. He's lazy, doesn't try hard all the time and is not the savior or the best option out there. He would help, of course, but he will be getting too much money for us to bother. I don't like nearly as much as other players.

Look for Foyle to have a better year than Dampier if he gets a starting job.

If you could have incentives in a contract, I would do it.

otherwise, not.

Can he run?

sike · 05-29-2004, 03:46 PM

motivation??? how about playing for a winner for once in his career? that seems to do the trick for many other talent laden motivation needing types.

birdsanctuary · 05-30-2004, 03:50 PM

Dampier certainly has shown he can put up the numbers. However this was his best year, and his work ethic is suspect. I don't see a guy who wants a championship over the money. I see a guy who wants big $$$.

birdsanctuary · 05-30-2004, 03:50 PM

Dampier certainly has shown he can put up the numbers. However this was his best year, and his work ethic is suspect. I don't see a guy who wants a championship over the money. I see a guy who wants big $$$.

foglemann · 05-30-2004, 04:45 PM

exactly my point bird, if Damp had decided to make a career out of the year he had last year, then we wouldn't even be talking about him because he would be a max out center on a winning team. Stats are stats and Damp's should have been better over his career. If he would have tried to play like he did last year, they probably would have been a winning team. He's out to lock up money for his future as a lazy center.

sike · 05-30-2004, 06:35 PM

screw this!.....we need a big man who will put up stats!!!

mavsman55 · 05-30-2004, 10:35 PM

Can he shoot 3's? No. Nellie will never play him.

cheesestar · 05-30-2004, 10:42 PM

well speaking on terms of walker, damp can shoot threes now making threes is something very different. walker shoots threes but doesnt make them damp doesnt shoot threes therefore does not make them. damp is much more efficient![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

sike · 05-31-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by: cheesestar
well speaking on terms of walker, damp can shoot threes now making threes is something very different. walker shoots threes but doesnt make them damp doesnt shoot threes therefore does not make them. damp is much more efficient![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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dalmations202 · 05-31-2004, 01:43 PM

If Dallas could work out a Damp (SNT)/NVE for Walker/Delk, and you resign Nash, and Daniels for $3M of the MLE, Would you then try and move Jamison to Chicago for the #3 pick in the draft, and try to get Sabonis protege?

Dampier/Bradley/Andrekivius ? (Sabonis protege)
Nowitzki/ Fortson/ Najera
Finley/Howard
Daniels/Howard
Nash/NVE/Stefansson

TAW on IR.

Not as strong as some of the other scenerios, but at least it gets you that developing "BIG" man that might be the next Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq, or Bill Wennington (best towel guy ever).

sike · 05-31-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by: dalmations202
If Dallas could work out a Damp (SNT)/NVE for Walker/Delk, and you resign Nash, and Daniels for $3M of the MLE, Would you then try and move Jamison to Chicago for the #3 pick in the draft, and try to get Sabonis protege?

Dampier/Bradley/Andrekivius ? (Sabonis protege)
Nowitzki/ Fortson/ Najera
Finley/Howard
Daniels/Howard
Nash/NVE/Stefansson

TAW on IR.

Not as strong as some of the other scenerios, but at least it gets you that developing "BIG" man that might be the next Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq, or Bill Wennington (best towel guy ever).

i prefer an idea that involves getting Dampier and then seeing if Orlando would take Jamison and Finley for Tmac and Hill's big contract.......this idea has been put forward in the mavs section

JLEEHASMUCHGAME · 06-01-2004, 10:15 AM

I agree Dampier would be a nice fit. A center rotation of Bradley, Williams/Fortson, and Dampier does seem to solve our center problems. Off topic, I still think the mavs need to get another player that can create instead of just hoping daniels can be that guy. Van exel again? I don't know if I would do it..

LRB · 06-01-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by: dalmations202
If Dallas could work out a Damp (SNT)/NVE for Walker/Delk, and you resign Nash, and Daniels for $3M of the MLE, Would you then try and move Jamison to Chicago for the #3 pick in the draft, and try to get Sabonis protege?

Dampier/Bradley/Andrekivius ? (Sabonis protege)
Nowitzki/ Fortson/ Najera
Finley/Howard
Daniels/Howard
Nash/NVE/Stefansson

TAW on IR.

Not as strong as some of the other scenerios, but at least it gets you that developing "BIG" man that might be the next Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq, or Bill Wennington (best towel guy ever).

Only way this comes close to working is if we make a deal to expose Jamison to Charlotte for the #4 pick and get the trade exemption when Charlotte chooses Jamison. Without the trade exemption Dampier being a BYC player would stop any sign and trade with the Mavs.

sike · 06-06-2004, 03:14 PM

we needs him!

bcrav4 · 06-07-2004, 12:04 AM

Didn't the Insider article from June 2nd (posted here) say that Andriuskevicius is more of a power forward alot like Dirk/Gasol. Does anyone know when the next Insider will be posted?

Poindexter Einstein · 06-07-2004, 03:08 AM

LRB .."Without the trade exemption Dampier being a BYC player would stop any sign and trade with the Mavs."

I am not convinced that Dampier will be a Base Year player. In fact, if I am "pricing" him I would peg his number at a number that does NOT incur the Base Year restrictions, perhap a starting salary of $9.5M. I think his offers will come from sign-and-trade teams, and in the current NBA salary climate I think a 5 year or so deal that exceeds $50M will be enough. If the Mavs had a trade exception there would be no Base Year issues anyhow, of course.

sike · 06-09-2004, 10:37 AM

*bump*
just wanted something other than the new trade posing maven near the top of this forum....
so....uhhhhhhh, what do you think of Dampier? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

sike · 08-17-2004, 11:55 PM

Dampier is a good reabounder, decent defender, huge body, has an improved touch from around 12ft,.....is the only way the mavs get him a sign and trade? plus I read something some time ago that said GS would not mind trading him so they dont just lose him to free agency......

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?
*bump*
boy do I look like a prophet or what? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

EricaLubarsky · 08-18-2004, 12:14 AM

Dampier is a perfect fit.

He's a role player that doesnt expect and hasnt received a lot of shot attempts.
He's a 1on1 defender
He's a shotblocker
He's a rebounder
He's a bruiser

I don't see why people are so low on him. He's everything we needed. Do we want a head-strong center that thinks of himself as a superstar? No. We just need a center that will babysit the paint, only coming out to clear the time on the 3 second clock. He defends his man (like Fortson did well even though he lacked height), he bangs (again like Fortson) AND he can block shots. Bradley and Lafrentz only blocked shots. Fortson only defended man to man.

He basically clears the way for a regular starting lineup and helps continue the movement this team has been on to improve defense and reduce the reliance on zone.

Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per Game(4.6) Ranks #12 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds(543.0)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.535)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(12.0) Ranks #3 in the NBA in Field-Goal Percentage(0.535)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(10.8) Ranks #1 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(17.7)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes(29.6)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game(7.3) Ranks #3 in the NBA in Total Rebounds(887.0)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game(1.85) Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds(344.0)
Ranks #15 in the NBA in Blocks(137.0) Ranks #1 in the NBA in Offensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(6.9)

Now we just need a different coach.

Dirkenstien · 08-18-2004, 01:10 AM

I absolutely love the addition of Dampier on this team. He's going to help Dirk out a lot by taking care of the majority of the dirty work down low. He is a true banger, he is basically 7 ft, he isnt selfish, he can block shots, and he can rebound. This is a wonderful situation for him as well as the mavericks. Can't wait for the season to start!

EricaLubarsky · 08-18-2004, 02:13 AM

I just hope he wants to play for a winning team and is hyped up. He doesn't have his own motivation and his pay won't motivate him. Let's hope his hunger for winning motivates him.

Drbio · 08-18-2004, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
I just hope he wants to play for a winning team and is hyped up. He doesn't have his own motivation and his pay won't motivate him. Let's hope his hunger for winning motivates him.

That is the key. It is also the single reason why many people didn't want him to come to Dallas. Now that he is apparently coming, let us all hope that he is motivated by winning.

DubOverdose · 08-18-2004, 08:41 AM

Isn't Nellie in a contract year for 2004-2005? Maybe he will step it up a year too!

LRB · 08-18-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by: sike
Dampier is a good reabounder, decent defender, huge body, has an improved touch from around 12ft,.....is the only way the mavs get him a sign and trade? plus I read something some time ago that said GS would not mind trading him so they dont just lose him to free agency......

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?
*bump*
boy do I look like a prophet or what? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

I'll take the what as in what is Michael Jackson please. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

Funny to see us actually getting player that we've all talked about so much this summer though.

EricaLubarsky · 08-18-2004, 04:44 PM

Just say no to Kidd.

sike · 08-18-2004, 09:10 PM

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LRB said: I'll take the what as in what is Michael Jackson please.

snowmen *shrug* [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

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EL said: Just say no to Kidd.

amen

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dub said: Isn't Nellie in a contract year for 2004-2005? Maybe he will step it up a year too!

greatness [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

sike · 02-14-2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by: sike
Dampier is a good reabounder, decent defender, huge body, has an improved touch from around 12ft,.....is the only way the mavs get him a sign and trade? plus I read something some time ago that said GS would not mind trading him so they dont just lose him to free agency......

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK?
*bump*
boy do I look like a prophet or what? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

yes, sike, yes you do....

chumdawg · 02-14-2005, 06:08 PM

We're not worthy!

birdsanctuary · 02-15-2005, 02:59 PM

Nice call Sike, I take back my concerns about him only being motivated by money. Damp just needed to be in a system where he learned a few fundamental skills. His game has significantly improved since the beginning of the year. I just wish he would be able to catch some of those hard passes cutting to the basket, it's like his palms are greasy or something.

EricaLubarsky · 02-15-2005, 03:17 PM

over the last 10 games

12.7ppg (56%shooting), 6.2FTApg, 13.5rpg, 1.7bpg in 33.5mpg

DubOverdose · 02-15-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
over the last 10 games

12.7ppg (56%shooting), 6.2FTApg, 13.5rpg, 1.7bpg in 33.5mpg

That's more than any Mavs fan should have realistically hoped for. What did someone say about 'look for Foyle to put up better numbers as a starter?' Not even close.