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Old 12-14-2003, 11:28 PM   #1
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Default If Cleveland does this.........

Dallas trades: C Shawn Bradley (3.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.1 apg in 11.1 minutes)
SG Michael Finley (16.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.2 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 29.2 minutes)
PF Danny Fortson (2.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 11.2 minutes)
Dallas receives: C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.8 minutes)
SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.6 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
C Theo Ratliff (6.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +4.3 ppg, +7.3 rpg, and +1.3 apg.

Cleveland trades: C DeSagana Diop (2.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.6 minutes)
C Zydrunas Illgauskas (16.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.8 minutes)
SF Ricky Davis (16.5 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.9 apg in 37.2 minutes)
C Michael Stewart (1.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.0 apg in 9.7 minutes)
SF Darius Miles (9.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 27.6 minutes)
PF Chris Mihm (7.9 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.2 minutes)
Cleveland receives: C Shawn Bradley (3.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.1 apg in 17 games)
SG Michael Finley (16.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 19 games)
PF Danny Fortson (2.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 13 games)
PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.8 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 19 games)
Change in team outlook: -12.7 ppg, -9.9 rpg, and -4.8 apg.

Atlanta trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.8 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.5 apg in 35.9 minutes)
C Theo Ratliff (6.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 30.9 minutes)
Atlanta receives: SF Antawn Jamison (14.2 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 19 games)
C DeSagana Diop (2.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 16 games)
SF Ricky Davis (16.5 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.9 apg in 18 games)
C Michael Stewart (1.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.0 apg in 6 games)
Change in team outlook: +8.4 ppg, +2.6 rpg, and +3.5 apg.

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I think Shareef and Finley would average better stats for atlanta, but i'm not sure they'd do it.
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:07 AM   #2
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Default RE:If Cleveland does this.........

I wouldn't do that trade. We're giving more than we're getting.
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:45 AM   #3
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Default RE:If Cleveland does this.........

I don't do it because I don't think Z is what we need - we need a rugged frontcourt defender and Z does not fit the qualifications.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:26 AM   #4
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Default RE: If Cleveland does this.........

Well, it also includes Mihm and Ratliff for us, plus the upside of Darius Miles.

When i originally did that, i thought i put too many Centers in for Dallas.

Also, this will be the end of front court small ball. In crunch time, Nellie would have to go with a line up like:

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Howard
Dirk
Ratliff
Ilgauskus

or

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Howard
Walker
Dirk
Ratliff

This could also kind of even out for playing back court small ball now that Dallas would have taller players on the floor. There'd never be 5 guys on the court all under 6'10.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:50 AM   #5
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Ratliff isn't worth either Jamison or Finley. Z isn't worth it either. So we are trading away both Jamison and Finley for Mihm and the upside of Miles?

I'll pass - we give out too much and get back too little.
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Count me out on this one. Too much risk for too little potential gain. I'd take the Delk for Mihm trade over this one 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
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I'd take the Delk for Mihm trade over this one 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
but why trade the same guys twice on Sunday????[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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I'd take the Delk for Mihm trade over this one 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
but why trade the same guys twice on Sunday????[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
That way we could be sure that it got done. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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I'd take the Delk for Mihm trade over this one 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
but why trade the same guys twice on Sunday????[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
That way we could be sure that it got done. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
ahhhhhhhhhhh, I see oh wise one........and LRB[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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