Dal/Ind

[dalmations202]

Dallas Trade:
Outgoing

Marquis Daniels
6-6 SG from Auburn
9.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 23.5 minutes

Michael Finley
6-7 SG from Wisconsin
15.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.6 apg in 36.8 minutes

Incoming

Reggie Miller
6-7 SG from UCLA
14.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 2.2 apg in 31.9 minutes

Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune HS (MS)
5.1 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 13.3 minutes

Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
3.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 17.6 minutes


From a Dallas perspective: Fin's contract off the books. Pollard can give them some minutes at backup 5. Bender has potential.
From a Indy perspective: Miller is retired. Pollard gave them nothing. Bender is injury prone, and has shown nothing since coming to the NBA but potential. Daniels has potential at the 1-3.

Indy would have Artest, Finley, Jackson, and Daniels at the swing postion. They really are getting much more than they would be giving up. The question would be the $$$$.

Dallas would still have Stack, Howard, Bender, KVH, and Terry who could play the swing positions.


Not my first choice for trades, but one that I think would help both teams.

What do you think?

[Lebanese_Fan]

Originally posted by: dalmations202
Dallas Trade:
From a Indy perspective: Miller is retired. Pollard gave them nothing. Bender is injury prone, and has shown nothing since coming to the NBA but potential. Daniels has potential at the 1-3.

Hence we should NOT do this trade. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

[dalmations202]

A reason Dallas might do this trade: Flexibility

Off the books by years end after the trade:

Pollard, KVH, Terry, TAW (questionable), Bradley, Miller, Esch

Contracts past next year: ~45M by first look : below the salary cap limit of 51M
Damp, Harris,Dirk, PPod, Howard, Bender, DJ, Stack

-- Bender, Stack, DJ off the next year. Base of team Dirk, Damp, Howard, Harris all long term signed.

[Joey]

How many times do we have to read yet ANOTHER Miller, Bender, Pollard thread. YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT!!! STOP SAYING IT!!! Send it to Cubes blog...

[MavsFanFinley]

Why would Indiana want 2 shooting guards? They have Artest and Jackson as starters with Jones and Granger as backups.

[alby]

artest is not a shooting guard, especially now after his hiatus.. have you guys seen him? goodness, hes huge

and fin would provide 'veteran leadership' for indiana since reggie is gone

unless they are counting on jamal tinsley, stephen jackson, ron artest, or jermaine oneal to be their leader haha =\

[Mavs414]

why would we want to do this for ??

[Lebanese_Fan]

Originally posted by: alby
artest is not a shooting guard, especially now after his hiatus.. have you guys seen him? goodness, hes huge

and fin would provide 'veteran leadership' for indiana since reggie is gone

unless they are counting on jamal tinsley, stephen jackson, ron artest, or jermaine oneal to be their leader haha =\

They can get a leader for less than 50 mill i am sure. Also there is nothing funny about o'neal being the leader.

[MavsFanFinley]

The Pacers depth chart looks like this:

Foster/Harrison
O'Neal/Croshere/Pollard
Artest/Bender/Granger
Jackson/Jones/Miller
Tinsley/Johnson/Jasikevicius

Alby, where does Finley and Daniels fit in here?

[akaarod03]

I posted this in Around the NBA...

Let's say we trade Devin, KVB, and Stackhouse to Boston for Pierce and Lafrentz (Fair deal right?)

If we trade Finley for Tinsley and Croshere...I would be ecstatic.

Our lineup...

Nowitzki Powell
Howard Croshere
Dampier Lafrentz
Pierce Daniels
Terry Tinsley

Benga, P-Pod round out the rest of the bench.

And oh yeah...we still have our MLE to spend.

[alby]

where did reggie fit?

[alby]

arent they the same squad minus reggie miller

[mavs413]

Originally posted by: akaarod03
I posted this in Around the NBA...

Devin, KVB, and Stackhouse to Boston for Pierce and Lafrentz

I actually think this is one of the possible deals that Donnie has talked about. But, I think Boston wants to get rid of both LaFrentz and Blount. We wouldnt want to take on Blount because we would have Damp/Raef/DJ/Pavel and Blount would get paid for 5 more years doing absolutely nothing at 7 million a year.

I like this deal a little better than the one you posted akaarod.
Harris
Daniels
Van Horn
for
Pierce
LaFrentz
Banks

Depth Chart: Dallas
Terry/Banks
Pierce/Stackhouse
Howard/ FA (Dermarr Johnson?)
Nowitzki/Powell
Dampier/LaFrentz

We get Pierce, backup center, and Banks lessens the blow of trading Harris.

Depth Chart: Boston
Harris/West
Daniels/Allen
Green/Van Horn
Jefferson/(Najera?)
(Nene?)/Perkins

Boston gets a good young player at a postion they need (PG). Van Horn's contract is expiring, and Daniels would be another good young player added to an already young team. They can now focus on finding a team in which to do a Sign and trade for Walker. Davis/Blount to Denver for Nene/Najera/Lenard seems like a great deal for both the Celtics and Nuggets also.

[Lebanese_Fan]

Also Blount has a 15% trade kick in. I remember that from last year when he negotiated the contract. That is why Ainge will struggle finding a suitor for him.

[MavsFanFinley]

arent they the same squad minus reggie miller

If you think that, then you're too busy seeing the benefit of the Mavs side without really looking at why the other team does it. Pacers lose Miller (announced his retirement a year ago) and Bender while adding Granger (draft), Finley, and Daniels.

No room for Daniels, not even at the point. Reggie came off the bench for $6.1 which is a big difference from Finley at nearly $16 million.

The Pacers have a total salary of $27,284,937 going out while bringing in $83,646,875.

[jthig32]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley

If you think that, then you're too busy seeing the benefit of the Mavs side without really looking at why the other team does it. Pacers lose Miller (announced his retirement a year ago) and Bender while adding Granger (draft), Finley, and Daniels.

No room for Daniels, not even at the point. Reggie came off the bench for $6.1 which is a big difference from Finley at nearly $16 million.

The Pacers have a total salary of $27,284,937 going out while bringing in $83,646,875.

These Indy rumors are just silly. The Pacers have no need for Finley. If last year had played out without the major suspensions the Pacer lineup was:

Tinsley, Reggie, Artest, O'Neal, Foster

With Stephen Jackson the first off the bench for Reggie.

The knew full well Reggie would retire soon. Jackson is Reggie's replacement. That's the whole reason they traded Harrington for him.

Now, their lineup is Tinsley, Jackson, Artest, O'Neal, Foster.

They have Freddie Jones off the bench at the 2 already, with several other interchangeable swingmen: the other Jones, Bender, etc.

They would have no use for Finely.