11-08-2003, 10:25 PM
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Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
According to NBAtv:
Finley
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11-08-2003, 10:26 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
This must be a bad joke.
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11-08-2003, 10:30 PM
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RE: Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
How funny. I just posted this trade in the new trade/draft forum earlier today.
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11-08-2003, 10:31 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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This must be a bad joke.
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They said the source was from Dallas and that the trade is awaiting league approval.
Im not joking, i heard it from NBAtv.
But if it were true why would Finley and Jamison play in this game?? Do they know??
Did the trade happen during the game???
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11-08-2003, 10:32 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Wow. If this is true, I really think the revolving-door trade policy is getting out of hand. I'm afraid that everybody on the team is going to play poorly with the contstant threat of a trade hanging over their heads. Hopefully we can stabilize the roster soon.
I have nothing more to say because I am too shocked. I will really miss Fin if this is true.
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11-08-2003, 10:33 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
ughhh......take my initial feeling after the Antoine Walker trade and multiply by 1000
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11-08-2003, 10:33 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
if this is true, this is terrible. that ruins my night.
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11-08-2003, 10:35 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
shhh.....don't tell tell Fin and Jamison while the game's going on
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11-08-2003, 10:35 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
If it is true i bet Nellie told Fin about it a long time ago. Fin is such a good guy he probably took it in perfect stride.
I'll say it again in this thread...
Rasheed, Dirk, Walker, Bonzi, Nash.
That is frightening.
If this group can get along they could do anything.
Fin and JAmison are great guys though. But we need someone over 6'10.
This is the price you pay.
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11-08-2003, 10:38 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
If this happens, I'm offically a Blazer fan.
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11-08-2003, 10:39 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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if this is true, this is terrible. that ruins my night.
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Cuban just said that the trade was not true. THank GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-08-2003, 10:40 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
YAY?
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11-08-2003, 10:41 PM
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RE: Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Makes sense as Portland made attempts at both Finley and Jamison over the summer.
Not sure what Dallas is thinking, but it wouldn't be a surprise that they'd be making another big trade.
Strange that all 4 guys are playing tonight. Wouldn't they be sitting to avoid a possible injury?
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11-08-2003, 10:41 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
wait, on tv he did? i am so confused...so is it just a rumor or what? and how close is this to being true? because if that happened, i don't know what i would do. it would make it awfully hard to root for the mavs.
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11-08-2003, 10:45 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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wait, on tv he did? i am so confused...so is it just a rumor or what? and how close is this to being true? because if that happened, i don't know what i would do. it would make it awfully hard to root for the mavs.
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Yeah, the game is being broadcast on NBAtv right now and they said they talked to Cuban and Mark said they trade was NOT TRUE.
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11-08-2003, 10:47 PM
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RE: Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Sorry, but I'm not going to take Cuban's word for it.
Of course he'll say it's not true if it's still awaiting NBA approval.
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11-08-2003, 10:50 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Mark is very very sneaky though, did he specufically say "there is NO trade at all"?
Or did he say..."those reports are incorrect" or something? Maybe the people involved are wrong? Because MArk doesn't like to announce something until it is absolutely completed. It would be funny if this whole thing came from that Karl quote and that Karl was totally talking out of his ace and knew absolutely nothing. Just jabbering.
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11-08-2003, 10:50 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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Sorry, but I'm not going to take Cuban's word for it.
Of course he'll say it's not true if it's still awaiting NBA approval.
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I'm not sure that he'd do that MFF...what's more likely is this... if Cuban made that offer to Portland and they turned it down, Cuban would say that the Mavs never had any interest in making a trade with Portland
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11-08-2003, 10:58 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
I sinerely hope this trade is nothing more than a bogus rumor. If not the Dallas PD better start beefing up their narcotics division.
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11-08-2003, 11:01 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
I hear that the trade was reported on Portland TV by Blazer fans... on the news.. don't know how much truth is to it, but it's just what i saw on some of the NBA message boards..and that the trade is pending league approval.
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11-08-2003, 11:03 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
This belongs into the new trade forum, so I moved it.
If this trade became reality I´d probably hope that the Mavs would trade Dirk to any other team I can root for. I`m not sure I could root for a team that features Walker, Wallace and Wells.
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11-08-2003, 11:04 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
nice job Fidel your right, it does belong in a trade forum, until it's official.
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11-08-2003, 11:07 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
This happens. The Mavs get about 22 mil of the books next season. Wow! Just throw away any chance of getting anywhere into the playoffs.
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11-08-2003, 11:08 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Saturday, November 08, 2003
Trade rumor
Have the Blazers found a willing taker for Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells? Noting the sullen mood and empty seats in the Rose Garden this season, Mike Barrett and Mike Rice revealed the Mavericks may have an offer on the table to the Blazers Saturday on the Blazers' pre-game show.
Rice and Barrett reported the Mavericks are willing to send PF/SF Antawn Jamison and SG Michael Finley to Portland in exchange for Wallace and Wells.
The trade appears to work under the collective bargaining agreement. However, Finley and Jamison both have huge contracts (check their salaries) with several years remaining.
Barrett and Rice noted Dallas is probably one of the few teams willing to take these two on (Wells and Wallace) and give quality in return. Rice indicated he thinks the ball is in the Blazers' court.
info from Oregon Live.com
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11-08-2003, 11:10 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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This happens. The Mavs get about 22 mil of the books next season. Wow! Just throw away any chance of getting anywhere into the playoffs.
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I mean "If" this happens.
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11-08-2003, 11:10 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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11-08-2003, 11:13 PM
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RE: Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
I think the Mavs would get the talent edge in that trade. I don't think I'd trade two good guys for two bad guys though. The talent upgrade is not that great.
Of course Cuban could be looking at the financial aspect. Wallace is about to be a free agent and will have to take a paycut at the end of the season.
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11-08-2003, 11:13 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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No way! That can't be.
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11-08-2003, 11:15 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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No way! That can't be.
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I'm just writing what i keep hearing.. don't know if it's all fact..
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11-08-2003, 11:16 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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OK guys just stop it right now. You're making me nauseous. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]
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11-08-2003, 11:18 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
still wouldn't be enough balls to go around..but the mavs would have more attitude in exchange for two wonderful b'ball players and human beings..
hmmm
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11-08-2003, 11:20 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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No way! That can't be.
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I'm just writing what i keep hearing.. don't know if it's all fact..
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Lol! Trying to surf the channels to see if I can find anything.
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11-08-2003, 11:21 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
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OK now i hear it was reported on Fox 4 news? Deal to be official on monday...?
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No way! That can't be.
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I'm just writing what i keep hearing.. don't know if it's all fact..
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Lol! Trying to surf the channels to see if I can find anything.
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LOL ME TOO!, it would be nuts if this was one heck of a trade RUMOR
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11-08-2003, 11:23 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
HMM Nbc 5 says the Mavs say there is no such deal, but we'll keep you posted
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11-08-2003, 11:26 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
ESPN radio just reported that they talked to Cuban and Cuban denied the trade. Thank God!
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11-08-2003, 11:31 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
I can see both sides to this trade. The mavs need someone that can knock someone on their asses like Rasheed would do for the mavs. On the other hand this could be a failed experiment waiting to happen.
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11-08-2003, 11:34 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
would rather have Dale Davis then Wells
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11-08-2003, 11:36 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Most of the time Management will deny trade rumors, if the deal isn't complete. The Nba offices open on Monday morning.. so IMO i think the Mavs will only say a trade is done when it's done, and not pending... I just think it's odd that George Karl says that Rasheed will look good in a Mavs uniform, then the next day , alot of news outlets say a trade is done.
Don't know what to think about the "trade" at the moment, but trading Fin is a huge move... that could cause the Mavs to lose alot of fans, especially when your bringing in 2 players known for causing issues with the team they were on. I think as far as talent goes, the Mavs get a HUGE upgrade, if not on the Offensive side, then on the Defensive side. The Mavs could have someone, IMO that can realistically put a body on Tim Duncan or Chris Webber in Wallace and a SF who isn't afraid to drive to the hole, and won't settle for a jumpshot when they can drive and convert . It's a big gamble to bring in players like these, I really hope Nellie Jr knows what he's doing if this rumor is true.
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11-08-2003, 11:44 PM
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RE: Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Actually, Wells has never been convicted of anything, he just has a horrible attitude on the court. I'd love to have Wells on this team, but not at the expense of Finley and/or Jamison.
To tell the truth, this really doesn't seem like a bad idea. This could make "good guys" out of Wells and Wallace, and hopefully Finley and Jamison can make "good guys" out of the trailblazers.
Also, Wells and Wallace are used to playing on a team with a whole lot of talent. Wallace has been taking stat cuts for the last two years, and it'll get worse when Randolph starts living up to the hype.
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11-08-2003, 11:53 PM
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RE:Finley, Jamison to Portland? Say it aint so!
Dallas:
Wallace/Bradley/Fortson
Dirk/Najera
Walker/TAW
Wells/Delk/Howard
Nash/Best/Daniels/Stefansson
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Davis/Stepania/Boumtje
Randolph
Jamison/Woods/Patterson/Outlaw
Finley/Anderson/Murray
Stoudamire/McInnis
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