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We won a championship last season without Odom and Marion playing back-up minutes. Not sure what evidence you have that the Mavs can't survive the season without a guy who has been terrible so far?
Yea...that's over the top. But we did have Peja and dsteve sucking up some of the small forward minutes so Marion could slide over. It will be a challenge, yi may be the obvious choice.
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Last season was different. Guys were younger, we had more rest between games, Butler played 29 games, Peja played 25 games, Brewer and Cardinal gave us some quality minutes, the 3 guard lineup worked well...and the competition was a little bit easier. It was still an epic/brutal competition, but this year MIA and OKC are even more dangerous.

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HAHAHA I just made my self LOL....cuz i actually went lookin for it...and HERE IT IS
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Lets just say Lamar does not return (unlikely), is there a possibility we could sign Wilson Chandler to play some SF mins for the rest of the season, and use Yi and Wright to play back up mins at the 4? Wilson could then can explore the FA after this season. Not sure if this can even happen, so just thoughts.
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We need Lamar. We have very little depth behind Marion and Dirk.

That Brewer deal is really coming back to bite us now. I don't care much about Rudy but Corey loved being a Mav even with the limited minutes he got, always played with a lot of joy and energy. And now he has developed quite nicely in Denver. You can tell he practiced his 3pt shot during the summer knowing that with Peja gone he'd have to hit some to get minutes.
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Oh man, some Corey Brewer would be sweet right now.

He potentially would've clogged things up for 3D (the real reason he was traded) but I'm sure we could've moved him in the offseason.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...for-lamar-odom

Cuban doing some DC. I'm sure they're quietly shopping.
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MARION would get a few mins at PF and VC wuld get some at SF that Marion leaves. Delonte can fill out the rest at the G
Delonte West is out for the next month, so that's not going to happen anytime soon...
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Exactly.

Buying out Odom doesn't make a whole lot of sense right now, but Cuban never said anything about trading him...
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Delonte West is out for the next month, so that's not going to happen anytime soon...
Yes i know...but when he ia back. Until then thers roddy and Jones. With Carter and Jet maybe playing a few xtra minutes.
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Odom out at least two games. Source- Jeff Caplan.
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Buying out Odom doesn't make a whole lot of sense right now, but Cuban never said anything about trading him...
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I like Odom, but this might actually good for the both sides.
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If he is really on the trading bloc, who could we possibly get that would be worth it? I mean we all know Lamar's upside and his contract situation is great for us in the off-season. Who could we get that would be of equal or greater value to us?
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If he is really on the trading bloc, who could we possibly get that would be worth it? I mean we all know Lamar's upside and his contract situation is great for us in the off-season. Who could we get that would be of equal or greater value to us?
I don't think he's on the block yet, not until brass gets a resolution on what Odom wants to do. I think we will handle this as best we can for both sides, but Mavs wise, salary wise, I can't see us eating the 2.4 on next summers' cap, thus no buyout, and Cuban's comment about trading the contract. But Cuban probably rather see the guy out there in a Mavs uniform. As for trade value, not going to be much if he doesn't wear the blue again before the deadline. It's pretty much a straight expiring deal, we feed the other team 3 million for a profit of 600 K to sit on their cap. Diaw? Hill, Nash?
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Nash would be sweet.

I can't imagine the Mavericks banishing Odom to Charlotte but Diaw would make the most sense as a Odom replacement (versatile forward who can dish and score).

I did like the Hinrich/TMac combo as well.
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Nash would be sweet.

I can't imagine the Mavericks banishing Odom to Charlotte but Diaw would make the most sense as a Odom replacement (versatile forward who can dish and score).

I did like the Hinrich/TMac combo as well.
Banishment, for what this guy has put the Mavs through for doing him a favor? He requests permission to leave for the break a day early, does not show up for the required return date, no one knows what's up. We are still paying him, Schwartz should realize the Mavs are not the problem. Aside from that, I doubt he shows his face with the next team, it'll be a buyout. Mavs aren't willing to buy him out, just pay his regular salary as if he were here. If we buy him out now it will have permanent repercussions on next summer's cap.
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Banishment, for what this guy has put the Mavs through for doing him a favor? He requests permission to leave for the break a day early, does not show up for the required return date, no one knows what's up. We are still paying him, Schwartz should realize the Mavs are not the problem. Aside from that, I doubt he shows his face with the next team, it'll be a buyout. Mavs aren't willing to buy him out, just pay his regular salary as if he were here. If we buy him out now it will have permanent repercussions on next summer's cap.
I agree the Mavericks have done LO a solid in this instance and moreover have been coddling the guy all season long despite his really poor play and ho-hum attitude. In a sense, he doesn't deserve anything.

I am just thinking of a perception issue - possibly overthinking...
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I can't imagine the Mavericks banishing Odom to Charlotte but Diaw would make the most sense as a Odom replacement (versatile forward who can dish and score).
Boris Diaw is gone forever, but Charlotte would probably be willing to trade us the guy who ate him...
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After what Cuban said, it doesnt sound like he would want to trade him either.

Either way, I think he should be let go. As much as i dont like him, he has had alot in his life to deal with. I cant imagine having 2 people close to me die within a few months, and now having to deal with the illness of my father. Have some sympathy Mav fans. I dont think Lamar is in an emotional state to be playing right now though.
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After what Cuban said, it doesnt sound like he would want to trade him either.

Either way, I think he should be let go. As much as i dont like him, he has had alot in his life to deal with. I cant imagine having 2 people close to me die within a few months, and now having to deal with the illness of my father. Have some sympathy Mav fans. I dont think Lamar is in an emotional state to be playing right now though.
IMO he can give back 1/66th of his salary for each game then. Only in sport
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Lets just say Lamar does not return (unlikely), is there a possibility we could sign Wilson Chandler to play some SF mins for the rest of the season, and use Yi and Wright to play back up mins at the 4? Wilson could then can explore the FA after this season. Not sure if this can even happen, so just thoughts.
Seems he's looking for a multi year deal. Toronto is rumored to be shopping Barbosa to clear the cap space to offer him a big salary.
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While I too am disappointed in LO's play, the potential is still there for him to play well. And I think the fastest way for the Mavs to add talent before the end of the season is to get more quality minutes out of LO. Every week, he has a game or two that looks like he's "getting it." Then he falls back off the chart.

I have always felt that what matters is that he's playing at a high level come April... Well, tomorrow is March. Time is running out. But we got him, and we're paying him. I have to hope he comes back soon and comes back with his head on straight.
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Looks like Cubes is talking to Lamar right now:

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Horrible picture but I guess that might be them?

So LO isn't in LA? Or is Cuban in LA?
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Horrible picture but I guess that might be them?

So LO isn't in LA? Or is Cuban in LA?
Obviously could be anyone, it's coming from someone who works at The Ticket so who knows.

I do know that's the downstairs bar at the W, for what it's worth.
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Not sure if this is serious or if Dwain Price is a credible source, but man...... I would absolutely love if this happened.
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Would be cool, Nash was Kidd backup in Suns some years ago.
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I would be down for that deal!!
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Can't believe such a package wouldn't include Roddy and/or DoJo. West would slide to the SG then and Kidd and Nash sharing PG duties. Can't see why the Mavs would need their young guns in that case or why Phoenix, recently renewing their non-trade stance, would do a straight swap.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:57 PM   #113
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why would phoenix want LO? and why would they get rid of nash? the trade makes no sense for them
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Send DoJo!!

In a flash!! The Mavs would need to free up a guard spot anyways. We would be crazy thin at the forward spot.. if we can snare Grant Hill, it would be saucy.

I'm hoping Dirk and Kidd are blowing Nash's phone and telling him to drop the nice guy act. Be a dick, Steve!!
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Best thing would be Odom/Kidd/DoJo for some sort of Nash/forward combo. But the Mavs would definitely have to take back a bad contract. And then 3D instantly dies.

But: Why would the Suns do that?
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Would be cool, Nash was Kidd backup in Suns some years ago.
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KJ was also somewhere in that mix. Here's an even further back. I think when both were sophs Kidd at Cal and Nash at tiny Santa Clara, Nash upset Kidd that night.

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Best thing would be Odom/Kidd/DoJo for some sort of Nash/forward combo. But the Mavs would definitely have to take back a bad contract. And then 3D instantly dies.

But: Why would the Suns do that?
Hill comes as an expiring I believe so 3D remains unaffected. The upside for Phoenix has to be picks and youth. Maybe Odom/Roddy/DoJo/1st for Nash/Hill?

Phoenix probably still doesn't do it unless Nash breaks character and personally requests it (like Odom did).

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Hill is on a 6.5M deal - it will be hard to get the salaries to match with such DoJo/Roddy especially as Nash makes more than Odom.
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Most importantly, who the fawk is Dwain Price and his word legit?
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I don't care if that is a false rumor...it's a damn good one.
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Nash for Odom would be nice, eliminates next summer's buyout from the cap.
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