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Dtownsfinest · 03-26-2021, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I'm guessing KP will sit out tomorrow and Luka will score 40 and not get any help.

Mavs just seem way too comfortable with just accepting the play in tournament.

Denver throws Jokic and Murray out there on B2B's all the time.

I'm sort of out of touch with the NBA do guys do this as a luxury? I will say that about LeBron...no matter what age....seems like he was playing those b2b's....

FreshJive · 03-26-2021, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I'm sort of out of touch with the NBA do guys do this as a luxury? I will say that about LeBron...no matter what age....seems like he was playing those b2b's....

All teams do this for just to balance the load on their most valuable assets. Pop started it. LeBron has been rested as much as anyone.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2021, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

All teams do this for just to balance the load on their most valuable assets. Pop started it. LeBron has been rested as much as anyone.

Actually lebron hasn't

I can pull the stats for you if you like

And Jokic + Murray very rarely sit on b2b

Neither does Dame & CJ

FreshJive · 03-26-2021, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Actually lebron hasn't

I can pull the stats for you if you like

And Jokic + Murray very rarely sit on b2b

Neither does Dame & CJ

Not this season, but in the past LeBron has been rested. Even this season, LeBron and Davis have been listed as questionable most of the time, so they can sit them whenever they want.

Also, Luka rarely rests on back to backs also, so...

Dtownsfinest · 03-26-2021, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Not this season, but in the past LeBron has been rested. Even this season, LeBron and Davis have been listed as questionable most of the time, so they can sit them whenever they want.

Also, Luka rarely rests on back to backs also, so...

Its not really about LeBron vs. Luka. Its more about the NBA in itself.

I get why you'd rest LeBron. Even though he hasn't been rested this year I can understand resting guys like him.....hell even Steph Curry, Draymon, etc. I get resting Kyrie and KD who are coming off injuries. But if you are healthy and are in your early 20's.......I just don't get it. But its the new NBA.

Dtownsfinest · 03-26-2021, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

All teams do this for just to balance the load on their most valuable assets. Pop started it. LeBron has been rested as much as anyone.

Naw man I've been following the Lakers this year....Lebron is legit hurt now and AD sits out some games but if you see LeBron sitting out its not gonna say "rest" next to his name.

I remember when Pop was the only person doing it seemed like. But I mean I got why he did it he was trying to salvage Parker, Gino and Duncan who all were in their 30's....but for the life of me I can't understand how a 24 year old needs to be rested. Especially in today's NBA that's not nearly as physical as it use to be. Just sit back and launch up a 3 pointer.

FreshJive · 03-26-2021, 10:16 PM

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Naw man I've been following the Lakers this year....Lebron is legit hurt now and AD sits out some games but if you see LeBron sitting out its not gonna say "rest" next to his name.

I remember when Pop was the only person doing it seemed like. But I mean I got why he did it he was trying to salvage Parker, Gino and Duncan who all were in their 30's....but for the life of me I can't understand how a 24 year old needs to be rested. Especially in today's NBA that's not nearly as physical as it use to be. Just sit back and launch up a 3 pointer.

They aren’t allowed to use the rest designation anymore. The NBA doesn’t allow it, so they started using “load management”. Now I think they have to make something up like back tightness or knee surgery recovery management or something. Nearly positive LeBron has been given the rest tag, when it was allowed.

Dtownsfinest · 03-27-2021, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

They aren’t allowed to use the rest designation anymore. The NBA doesn’t allow it, so they started using “load management”. Now I think they have to make something up like back tightness or knee surgery recovery management or something. Nearly positive LeBron has been given the rest tag, when it was allowed.

Maybe I'm thinking about load management designation. But Lebron hasn't been on it this year. Lakers like most teams seem to put these players as "Questionable" every game but they end up playing anyway....

Melonhead · 03-26-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

All teams do this for just to balance the load on their most valuable assets. Pop started it. LeBron has been rested as much as anyone.

Is this a joke or do you just dislike LeBron because he’s good? Dude is in his EIGHTEENTH SEASON and lead the league in minutes before injury. He doesn’t miss.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2021, 11:07 PM

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Is this a joke or do you just dislike LeBron because he’s good? Dude is in his EIGHTEENTH SEASON and lead the league in minutes before injury. He doesn’t miss.

I think it's more about trying to justify the mavs decisions

Lebron is like 36 or something

We can only hope Luka or KP at 26 or 28 can have that type of stamina and durability by then

Lebron is a machine though

I'm just frustrated at the opportunities that the mavs have and they seem to be going about it non chalant.

Luka very well might be hurt but when RC tells you they already have plans to not play certain guys doing b2b games then some might think he's healthy and they are just doing what they already told us a month ago in regards to resting.

FreshJive · 03-26-2021, 11:45 PM

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Is this a joke or do you just dislike LeBron because he’s good? Dude is in his EIGHTEENTH SEASON and lead the league in minutes before injury. He doesn’t miss.

Lol. Where did I say anything negative about LeBron? LeBron has no doubt rested games in his career.

Melonhead · 03-27-2021, 12:22 AM

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Lol. Where did I say anything negative about LeBron? LeBron has no doubt rested games in his career.

Using him for your argument is just dumb. The amount of minutes and games played over his career is staggering. He’s the absolute opposite of someone to prop up as “load management” guy. Your bias is pretty clear.

Dtownsfinest · 03-27-2021, 12:28 AM

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Using him for your argument is just dumb. The amount of minutes and games played over his career is staggering. He’s the absolute opposite of someone to prop up as “load management” guy. Your bias is pretty clear.

Yeah I'm not sure what he's getting at about Lebron. You can say it about Anthony Davis but Lebron this season has played most nights.

Bryan_Wilson · 03-27-2021, 01:54 AM

I'm fine with resting Luka on b2b games. I honestly don't care about the seeding or if we end up in a play in situation. If you can't beat the 7/8th seed or the 9/10 seed then you weren't going anywhere in the playoffs anyway. Our playoff success will almost entirely depend on health, kp, and jrich IMO. We know what Luka will give us. It's the others that need to be more consistent. B2B's just aren't worth the risk IMO in most situations.

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Simply not playing in back-to-back games can reduce the probability of an injury by almost 16% for the average player. Whereas the topic of player rest is becoming increasingly controversial for basketball fans and the media, the data support its utility in preventing injuries.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6107769/
This was from 2018, and IMO is why we see plenty of teams resting players in b2b situations. Especially a player like Luka who takes a fair amount of punishment driving to the rim on a nightly basis and is relied upon more than 99% of the rest of the players in the league to carry his team when he is on the floor. And after his game the other night if he even mentions the words stiff or sore... then it's the right move to sit him this game.

FreshJive · 03-27-2021, 03:34 PM

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Using him for your argument is just dumb. The amount of minutes and games played over his career is staggering. He’s the absolute opposite of someone to prop up as “load management” guy. Your bias is pretty clear.

Dtowns is the one who brought up LeBron. I have no bias. I don’t think there is anything wrong with teams deciding to rest players. It’s pretty bizarre that you have interpreted anything I said to be anti LeBron.

Dallas41 · 03-26-2021, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I'm sort of out of touch with the NBA do guys do this as a luxury? I will say that about LeBron...no matter what age....seems like he was playing those b2b's....

I really can't answer that today's NBA as Kelly Oubre stated is much softer compared to the old days when guys only missed games do to major injuries

Lebron is a machine and he values every game.

Despite playing deep into August dude came back this year and was still playing b2b games out of the gates.

But Donnie said he's confident in his top 11 young talented players.

So I'm guessing they believe even without Luka or KP playing games they feel like they can still win a few games because of the great depth on this team

Dtownsfinest · 03-26-2021, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I really can't answer that today's NBA as Kelly Oubre stated is much softer compared to the old days when guys only missed games do to major injuries

Lebron is a machine and he values every game.

Despite playing deep into August dude came back this year and was still playing b2b games out of the gates.

But Donnie said he's confident in his top 11 young talented players.

So I'm guessing they believe even without Luka or KP playing games they feel like they can still win a few games because of the great depth on this team

I just don't get it I know the NBA there's 82 games but man.....these type of games can be crucial at the end.