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Old 09-18-2006, 12:39 PM   #81
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I might take it wasy on really, really awful. I picked them to finish last in the division this year, and I think they will. But they still have a good defense, and I like the way we picked through it, even with Springs out.
You realize that springs is a GREAT corner right? Him being out is a big deal and we cant catch worth a crap. And thats not even mentioning that their best player wasnt playing.

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You realize that springs is a GREAT corner right? Him being out is a big deal and we cant catch worth a crap. And thats not even mentioning that their best player wasnt playing.
Yeah, I do. I also realize that Washington still has a good defense without him. I realize that they generally (meaning last year) put good pressure on the quarterback, and Bledsoe went almost the entire game untouched.

I do realize they were without their best offensive player. I also realize that without a random kickof return, and two back-to-back personal foul penalties, this would have been a shutout.

And I realize that we also didn't play anywhere near our potential.

You say "we can't catch" when in reality, we CAN catch, we just didn't. We also didn't commit penalities like this last year. If you ask me, winning in spite of those two things is encouraging, because the odds of them continuing are long.
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Yeah, I do. I also realize that Washington still has a good defense without him. I realize that they generally (meaning last year) put good pressure on the quarterback, and Bledsoe went almost the entire game untouched.

I do realize they were without their best offensive player. I also realize that without a random kickof return, and two back-to-back personal foul penalties, this would have been a shutout.

And I realize that we also didn't play anywhere near our potential.

You say "we can't catch" when in reality, we CAN catch, we just didn't. We also didn't commit penalities like this last year. If you ask me, winning in spite of those two things is encouraging, because the odds of them continuing are long.

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Yeah, I do. I also realize that Washington still has a good defense without him. I realize that they generally (meaning last year) put good pressure on the quarterback, and Bledsoe went almost the entire game untouched.

I do realize they were without their best offensive player. I also realize that without a random kickof return, and two back-to-back personal foul penalties, this would have been a shutout.

And I realize that we also didn't play anywhere near our potential.

You say "we can't catch" when in reality, we CAN catch, we just didn't. We also didn't commit penalities like this last year. If you ask me, winning in spite of those two things is encouraging, because the odds of them continuing are long.
I am encouraged by the game as well. I think you might realize that the reason they didnt put pressure is because of Springs. Would you really blitz and leave those corners on an island(though i do like rogers)? It was a nice win and im happy but i think its a bit early to be TOO happy.

Also, i would love for someone to explain to me how you ignore the hold because the guy ran through it when you called a foul on the defense on the same play. I could understand if there wasnt a foul on the D because it would have just been declined but to ignore it which would have made offsetting penalties while calling one on the D that is an automatic first is inexcusable.
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I am encouraged by the game as well. I think you might realize that the reason they didnt put pressure is because of Springs. Would you really blitz and leave those corners on an island(though i do like rogers)? It was a nice win and im happy but i think its a bit early to be TOO happy.

Also, i would love for someone to explain to me how you ignore the hold because the guy ran through it when you called a foul on the defense on the same play. I could understand if there wasnt a foul on the D because it would have just been declined but to ignore it which would have made offsetting penalties while calling one on the D that is an automatic first is inexcusable.
I do, but I was still encouraged by the line.

And on the penalty:

THANK YOU. My dad and I always watch the games together, and we were mystified at that. What on earth is an "attempted hold" and how does it differ from an actual hold? You don't pick up a flag just because someone ran through the hold, you call it and let the team decline it.

I have no idea how they picked up that flag.

Also, I may need someone to explain crack back to me. My understanding has always been that you can't go low on a defender from the side or when he's otherwise engaged.

On the other hand, I see RB's go low on blitzers all the time. How is that different than what T.O. did on the first play?
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I do, but I was still encouraged by the line.

And on the penalty:

THANK YOU. My dad and I always watch the games together, and we were mystified at that. What on earth is an "attempted hold" and how does it differ from an actual hold? You don't pick up a flag just because someone ran through the hold, you call it and let the team decline it.

I have no idea how they picked up that flag.

Also, I may need someone to explain crack back to me. My understanding has always been that you can't go low on a defender from the side or when he's otherwise engaged.

On the other hand, I see RB's go low on blitzers all the time. How is that different than what T.O. did on the first play?
You cant go low when you come in from the outside or if he is otherwise engaged. IE if an outside receiver comes and blocks a corner on a slot receiver by cutting, its an illegal block BUT if a slot receiver goes out and blocks a Corner on an outside receiver it should be legal though i have seen that called too. Anytime the guys is engaged its illegal to cut him.

Also, that tripping they called on Columbo in the first was a HORRIBLE call. Yes he tripped but you cant call that. As to the one they were talking about, if they were gonna pick up the flag for the hold they would have been better off just shutting up about it.
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Parcells: Owens likely to have plate put into broken hand

By JAIME ARON, AP Sports Writer
September 18, 2006

IRVING, Texas (AP) -- Terrell Owens was scheduled to undergo surgery late afternoon or early evening Monday, likely to have a plate screwed into his broken right ring finger.

Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells believes the plate could help get T.O. back on the field quickly, perhaps even in time for his much-anticipated return to Philadelphia on Oct. 8.

"Most of those injuries, when they put a plate in there, which I think they might do, that pretty much fixes it," Parcells said Monday. "Once they put that in there, it's not going anywhere, you're not going to displace it again. It's a matter of if you can get it functional."

The initial prognosis was for Owens to be out two to four weeks. The Cowboys have a bye Sunday, then play at Tennessee before the game against the Eagles.

If things go well, perhaps Owens plays against the Titans. If there are any setbacks, it's possible he doesn't return until the game after Philadelphia, Oct. 15 at home against Houston.

"I don't think they'll be able to determine that until after the surgery," Parcells said.

You have to figure Owens will do all he can to try getting revenge on the Eagles, the team that banished him midway through last season only months after he'd help them reach the Super Bowl.

And he does have a history of overcoming injuries faster than doctors expected, primarily coming back for that Super Bowl seven weeks after a broken ankle.

"I feel like I'm a quick healer," Owens said Sunday night. "Once we have the surgery, the healing process will start."

Owens was slow to heal from a preseason hamstring injury, but the stakes were certainly different. As it turns out, his long layoff benefits the Cowboys because raw backups Jamaica Rector and Sam Hurd got extra work that could now pay off.

Parcells said that because of the bye he wouldn't decide who takes Owens' place, if needed, until next week. He added that he's not interested in signing a veteran fill-in, opting to go with his youngsters.

"I'll be more hopeful that these guys come along," Parcells said. "We put them on the team for a reason and, here you go, it's your opportunity."

Another side effect of the injury is another interruption in the budding relationship between Owens and quarterback Drew Bledsoe. Parcells said Owens "still has a little work to do" to fully grasp the offense.

"But this is not an injury that's going to prohibit him from running and doing a lot of things that could really set him back conditioning-wise," Parcells said. "So I think once he gets this thing in, he'll be pretty good to go physically, other than maybe the utilization of the hand for a while."

Owens said the injury was a "fluke thing" that happened while blocking during one of the first few plays of Dallas' 27-10 victory over Washington on Sunday night. He caught three passes for 19 yards, all in the first quarter, but also had several drops, including one in the end zone, and two penalties.

Parcells said he doesn't believe Owens' drops can be pinned on the injury, although he knows from experience how uncomfortable the receiver felt -- and perhaps why he didn't ask to have it examined until midway through the fourth quarter.

"I've had six bones broke in my own hand at one time, so I kind of have an idea what it is," Parcells said. "You don't really know, first of all, that something is broken. You just know it's something hurting. You think maybe it's something else. You just go."
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