09-07-2007, 09:24 AM
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42% of Democrats believe Bush either caused 9/11 or let it happen?
Zogby poll: 42% of Democrats think Bush either caused 9/11 or let it happen
posted at 3:46 pm on September 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I guess we should be grateful it’s not a clear majority, eh? You can thank the turds at 9/11 Truth for commissioning the poll; SLC spotted it earlier and has since been digesting the numbers ( http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...h-for-84.html). Spend some time with the data ( http://www.911truth.org/images/ZogbyPoll2007.pdf), paying special attention to question 402 starting on page 5 of the PDF. The results run on for several pages as Zogby breaks it down by age, region, religious belief, even gun ownership. The data for party affiliation comes on page 8. Here’s the most interesting bit, though, which I’ve taken the liberty of screencapping and highlighting. Click for large size:
The left has been downright giddy about its stranglehold on the youth vote, but note well the caliber of voter they’re attracting there. Note the result for Hispanics, too. I suspect there’s a fair amount of disgruntlement over unrelated issues, i.e. immigration, bleeding over into perceptions of 9/11 here, maybe not unlike many on the right extrapolating from the Clintons’ general loathsomeness that they must have had Vince Foster whacked. As for the data on Asians, though, I’m at a loss as to how to explain it. Is that immigration backlash too? Are they including south Asians, like Pakistanis, in the group? Hmm.
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/0...let-it-happen/
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09-07-2007, 09:29 AM
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Rooting for the laundry
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I'm trying to form a more eloquent post than "That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard" but I really can't think of anything.
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09-07-2007, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by from_the_report
Chose “Made it Happen”
Progressive/Liberal - 6.7%
Moderate - 5.7%
Conservative/Very Conservative - 5.1%
Libertarian - 11.6%
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this doesn't seem to be a leftist disease. I think your explanation is rather right: a large component of the population is coming to to just generally not like the the administration... and in polls this comes off as just answering ANYTHING as "I don't trust those guys"... ??
Same thing with congress, Dems OR Gop... people just don't trust 'em.
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09-07-2007, 09:52 AM
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They're democrats. The party of the ignorant.
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09-07-2007, 10:08 AM
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Rooting for the laundry
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People don't like the administration...that's fair.
If you want to even say they "let it happen" I don't think that is ALL THE WAY in the realm of complete fantasy.
But to say that they "made it happen".....man I just don't know about that.
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09-07-2007, 08:42 PM
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according to the poll 38% of catholics feel the same way.
or, to put it another way, one out of four protestants agree with the premise.
and the same for those who call themselves "born again", one out of four.
wait, almost one out of three people who said they owned a gun believed it as well.
want more? almost half the population who earn less than $25K year believe it, and over 48% of those earning between $25-$35 believe it.
it's not just those who call themselves democrats, there is clearly a very deep rooted distrust of the current administration.
it seems to me that it isn't just the current administartion, it is also reflected in the low approval ratings for congress.
as i've said before, these are not good trends for our country.
and frankly, these politicians have nobody but themselves to blame.
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09-08-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavdog
it's not just those who call themselves democrats, there is clearly a very deep rooted distrust of the current administration.
it seems to me that it isn't just the current administartion, it is also reflected in the low approval ratings for congress.
as i've said before, these are not good trends for our country.
and frankly, these politicians have nobody but themselves to blame.
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This looked like as good a place as any...In addition to the guvment, there is also the little issue of the media being so ridiculously mis-informed and lazy. Here's the latest AP blurb on kyoto after ubl's rambling.
I mean, when I read an AP story, a Reuters, a NYTime story I immediately discount it almost entirely until I see corroboration, no wonder their brands are sinking so low.
What does it say when you KNOW, JUST KNOW that certain bloggers takes are going to be more accurate than the media?
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../09/018408.php
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The AP provides a brief history of the America and the Kyoto Protocol:
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Under the administration of U.S. President Bill Clinton, the United States joined a U.N. meeting in Kyoto and agreed to the protocol. But the United States rejected it under the administration of President George W. Bush, Clinton's successor.
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Readers with a long memory may recall that the United States never adopted the Kyoto Protocol because the Clinton administration never submitted it for ratification to the Senate. The Clinton administration never submitted it to the Senate for ratification because in July 1997 the Senate voted 95-0 to adopt a resolution stating that ''the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol to, or other agreement regarding, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change of 1992, at negotiations in Kyoto.''
Does the AP fact-check its stories? Perhaps it fact-checks them with Al Gore. Back in 2004 we took a look at Al Gore wrestling with these facts in "History and hermeneutics." (Thanks to reader Patrick Brown.)
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