Combined GDTs for this sh$#show

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

So many things to blame

1) the league just got better
2) The rule changes made defense harder and we were already running a totally contraption-based defense that was held together with scotch tape
3) We ran Luka too hard. He had to put up 50 every night which lead to him having really poor defense
4) Which led to no defensive accountability
5) Which was worsened by his lack of conditioning
6) Wood was probably mistreated, but also lead to a lot of poor defense
7) Kidd jerked around the S5 and rotations mercilessly so no one got comfortable
8) Kidd set no clear roles so guys are uncomfortable doing their thing (just look at Kleber hesitating to shoot
9) While Luka dominated the ball, the rest of the guys never got touches and the team lost trust in one another leading to shooting slumps
10) Kidd is just a dick

Agree with all of that above. Last but not least in terms of team building during the Luka era - we picked the wrong guy in 2020 with all due respect to the regressing Josh Green. Desmond Bane would have been tremendous alongside Luka. Nobody in the league makes 25 points look more effortless than Bane.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by Zeus

I totally agree. It is totally amazing that a 23 year old now barely 24 year old kid who runs around 2 plus hours every other night could actually get flabby and heavier as the season progresses. It is not the lack of exercise but instead a lack of caloric discipline. He is obviously eating and potentially drinking too much. Remember kids there is no amount of exercise you can't out eat if you are not careful. Perhaps skipping some meals or even whole days of eating on non game days might help Luka finally get lean.

side note fasting for 3 weeks helped me lose 12 pounds before a wedding. But I wasnt doing any high intense activity those weeks.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Agree with all of that above. Last but not least in terms of team building during the Luka era - we picked the wrong guy in 2020 with all due respect to the regressing Josh Green. Desmond Bane would have been tremendous alongside Luka. Nobody in the league makes 25 points look more effortless than Bane.

Totally disagree. Green is long, quick, and strong. We need a 3/D guy who can be a secondary playmaker and Green is perfect in that role. too bad Kidd is a piece of @#$ who doesn't see that. His defense is way better and his peak is way higher.

If Kidd wasn't an asshole, Green could be putting up 20-5-5 too. Green has better defensive numbers, better defensive upside, better IQ, etc.

We've drafted incredibly well. Luka, Green, and Hardy with mostly terrible picks. The drafting lately isn't the problem. The problem is coaching and the terrible position we've been in to get vets in trade/free-agency.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/ma..._dmn_mavericks

Nico's response to the great Kidd question...

Harrison: I think Jason?s done a great job, starting with the top, making sure Luka and Kyrie are communicating and on the same page, which he?s done well. I think it?s tough for a coach every day. A lot of times you guys think we?re being cute when you?re like ?Hey, are they playing today?? And we?re like ?Yeah, we don?t know yet.? You?re like ?Yeah, they know,? but we?re looking at each other like, ?Hey, what do you think??

If you?re Jason, how do you game plan when you don?t know who?s available? I think he?s been put in a tough position. I think what Jason?s done really well is he?s really dug into being positive with all the uncertainty. It?s easy to start pointing fingers. He?s really dug into being positive, and I think that?s super helpful. I think the guys can feel the positive energy and again, I think he?s been in a tough position.

Honestly, we weren?t playing good before the trade, so the trade was never going to be a magic pill all of a sudden, but we did expect those guys to play more games together to figure each other out. Again, I?m not really worried about those two figuring each other out. It?s the players around them.

Pretty astounding how he defends Kidd here while throwing every player not named Luka or Kyrie under the bus.

Gee, who put this team together?

[purplefrog]

I just looked at the remaining schedule and the Pelicans could very well lose all their remaining games:

3/30 @Denver
4/1 Clippers
4/4 Kings
4/5 Grizzlies
4/7 Knicks
4/9 @Timberwolves

Mavs series with Pelicans is 2-2

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Totally disagree. Green is long, quick, and strong. We need a 3/D guy who can be a secondary playmaker and Green is perfect in that role. too bad Kidd is a piece of @#$ who doesn't see that. His defense is way better and his peak is way higher.

If Kidd wasn't an asshole, Green could be putting up 20-5-5 too. Green has better defensive numbers, better defensive upside, better IQ, etc.

We've drafted incredibly well. Luka, Green, and Hardy with mostly terrible picks. The drafting lately isn't the problem. The problem is coaching and the terrible position we've been in to get vets in trade/free-agency.

I will respectfully disagree with your disagreement. Have you seen Bane play next to Ja and totally create his own shot etc. He isn't a horrible defender and is also a tough guy like Green. Green will likely never be a plus offensive player.

[mac222b]

Agreeing with two of the above comments: something seems cognitively off with Kidd. I think I mentioned this months ago. Not only does he struggle with making simple in game coaching decisions, most of what comes out of his mouth is absurd.

This is a male or break off-season for Luka. How he responds will tell us everything we need to know. He either wants to be one of the greatest or he?s content just being another great and relatively ?coasting.? We aren?t winning a championship without an all in Luka.

[washedklean77]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

side note fasting for 3 weeks helped me lose 12 pounds before a wedding. But I wasnt doing any high intense activity those weeks.

Intermittent fasting is where it's at. I'm a seasoned Ultra Endurance Athlete (runner) on the side of my career. (I'm 45, btw). I burn a ton of calories through rigorous training, but even I still adhere to intermittent fasting as it does wonders to my gut health. I eat dinner at 5:30PM and then that's it - nothing until 4AM which is when I wake up to train. This gives me an 11 hour fast and I wake up feeling wonderful.

Aerobic training is what Luka has to adopt this offseason. Consistent aerobic training will train his body to use oxygen more efficiently. But more importantly, train his heart to operate lower at all times (while resting, functioning as normal, training and playing games) as a lower overall heart rate demands less energy. And when you're more aerobically fit, you simply have more in the tank which helps you practice/pursue your trade.

I'm a firm believer that you can't play good defense if you're not in tremendous shape!

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by washedklean77

Intermittent fasting is where it's at. I'm a seasoned Ultra Endurance Athlete (runner) on the side of my career. (I'm 45, btw). I burn a ton of calories through rigorous training, but even I still adhere to intermittent fasting as it does wonders to my gut health. I eat dinner at 5:30PM and then that's it - nothing until 4AM which is when I wake up to train. This gives me an 11 hour fast and I wake up feeling wonderful.

Aerobic training is what Luka has to adopt this offseason. Consistent aerobic training will train his body to use oxygen more efficiently. But more importantly, train his heart to operate lower at all times (while resting, functioning as normal, training and playing games) as a lower overall heart rate demands less energy. And when you're more aerobically fit, you simply have more in the tank which helps you practice/pursue your trade.

I'm a firm believer that you can't play good defense if you're not in tremendous shape!

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing. I think I?m going to try intermittent fasting myself. So the key is that 12 hour block, and not to eat to close to bed time, correct? I would have to do something like 9pm-9am as I get out of work/gym later. Do you fast at other times or just overnight?

[washedklean77]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing. I think I?m going to try intermittent fasting myself. So the key is that 12 hour block, and not to eat to close to bed time, correct? I would have to do something like 9pm-9am as I get out of work/gym later. Do you fast at other times or just overnight?

I'll PM you so we can keep this thread dedicated to basketball.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by washedklean77

Intermittent fasting is where it's at. I'm a seasoned Ultra Endurance Athlete (runner) on the side of my career. (I'm 45, btw). I burn a ton of calories through rigorous training, but even I still adhere to intermittent fasting as it does wonders to my gut health. I eat dinner at 5:30PM and then that's it - nothing until 4AM which is when I wake up to train. This gives me an 11 hour fast and I wake up feeling wonderful.

Aerobic training is what Luka has to adopt this offseason. Consistent aerobic training will train his body to use oxygen more efficiently. But more importantly, train his heart to operate lower at all times (while resting, functioning as normal, training and playing games) as a lower overall heart rate demands less energy. And when you're more aerobically fit, you simply have more in the tank which helps you practice/pursue your trade.

Ultra endurance athlete is impressive. I've slowly adopted intermittent after a probably not super healthy fast before the wedding. Like you I dont eat after 6:30ish, and dont eat again until 630-7 the next morning. 12 hours is about the best I can do without forcing it. I know a lot of people do 14-16 hours, but I cant do that consistently.

Exercising, I never had the endurance growing up. I hated running, even though I played sports my whole life. I was one of the slowest on the bball team besides the centers when we ran around the track everyday. I force myself to get on the treadmill 2-3 times a week now. Im 35 ftr.

[washedklean77]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Ultra endurance athlete is impressive. I've slowly adopted intermittent after a probably not super healthy fast before the wedding. Like you I dont eat after 6:30ish, and dont eat again until 630-7 the next morning. 12 hours is about the best I can do without forcing it. I know a lot of people do 14-16 hours, but I cant do that consistently.

Exercising, I never had the endurance growing up. I hated running, even though I played sports my whole life. I was one of the slowest on the bball team besides the centers when we ran around the track everyday. I force myself to get on the treadmill 2-3 times a week now. Im 35 ftr.

This was my response to Mac, btw. I've received a few PM's about it so it appears that others are interested in it.

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A solid intermittent fasting interval while you sleep will absolutely improve your gut health as it provides a repair interval for the microbiome that lives in your gut. An unhealthy gut can really leave you feeling like crap and if you've experience this, you know what I'm talking about!



What I love about the intermittent fasting at night are a handful of things: 1) You're less likely to wear your calories to bed. Giving your body ample time to digest your food while being awake is most ideal. 2) In building on bullet 1, you position your body well for optimal rest when you sleep w/o a full tummy. Digestion requires energy which then causes an elevated heart rate. And when your body is working through digestion while attempting to rest, you'll pretty much forego any opportunity of deep and REM sleep. (these are the critical sleep cycles for physical and cognitive repair). 3. Improved gut health. Lets face it - waking up in the morning can be tough so the last thing that we want to do is to wake up and feel like crap.

There are folks out there that claim that 5-6 smaller meals are better for you than a handful of larger meals and I tend to lean on the smaller number of meals. Why? Because when you're constantly eating, you're constantly requiring your body to live in a digestive state and if you're not careful with your definition of moderation, then you'll wreck yourself and your gut.



I've learned that we feel our best when we're living in a balanced caloric state which means that we're consuming and burning an equal number of calories each day. And if you're enduring a time where you're trying to lean out a bit, then reduce your calories a bit to achieve a caloric deficit. Knowing the difference between being hungry and not satisfied will be cornerstone for your intermittent fasting journey. And once you learn to be disciplined about it, you'll learn just as I did that we absolutely consume more food than we require to function. Even as an athlete.

[Dallas41]

Here we are in year 4 or 5 still saying Luka will be better as he matures when it comes to his fitness and leadership

At this point I personally don't think Luka will ever change his preparation or commitment to staying in shape. I don't think he will ever stop complaining about the refs.

Usually guys who are committed to their fitness like LeBron and Giannis committ to that from day one.

Luka is like Carmello he will get by on his athletic skill for as long as he can without putting in the extra time for fitness.

But also don't expect Luka to play 12-15 years in this league. I think he's the type who will play at high a level for 8-10 years and just bounce out.

The real issues is how long will he stick around here waiting on cuban and Nico to get shit done.

[ShaggyDirk]

^Yeah, all of this and a big bag of ducks. We're screwed.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

Here we are in year 4 or 5 still saying Luka will be better as he matures when it comes to his fitness and leadership

At this point I personally don't think Luka will ever change his preparation or commitment to staying in shape. I don't think he will ever stop complaining about the refs.

Usually guys who are committed to their fitness like LeBron and Giannis committ to that from day one.

Luka is like Carmello he will get by on his athletic skill for as long as he can without putting in the extra time for fitness.

But also don't expect Luka to play 12-15 years in this league. I think he's the type who will play at high a level for 8-10 years and just bounce out.

The real issues is how long will he stick around here waiting on cuban and Nico to get shit done.

Luka actually was in better shape to start this season because he had just played overseas. Guy was putting up prime Jordan numbers.

Bigger problem this time around was doing too much and then having to carry the team on his back.

Lot of us called it back before the season started that he would be run down by mid season.

I obviously agree he needs to take better care of himself, but I don't think that was going to have a ton of impact in this specific season.